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jurgen

Busy ****
Jul 5, 2008
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I was thinking afterwards, will this end up getting debated in parliament, and based on what we’ve seen so far, it just might..
 

Misfit

President of The Niles Crane Fanclub
May 7, 2006
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I couldn't give 2 monkeys tbh. We won and got the 3 points. COYS!
Yup. I care as much about the injustice yesterday about as much as everyone else cares about it when happens to us. That is to say, not at all.

Everyone knows the officials in England are pish and that these same cretins run our VAR system. Make changes or STFU and move on.

Everything else is just hot air.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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I just played 5 a side with probably the most reasonable Liverpool I've met. Basically embarrassed by the hysteria around it all. We agreed the game was ruined for both teams with the 2nd sending off.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
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I was thinking afterwards, will this end up getting debated in parliament, and based on what we’ve seen so far, it just might..
Seeing as over a million people signed a petition for a second referendum, and it was completely ignored, I doubt it.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

Night watchman
Admin
Jan 14, 2004
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Klopp’s comments are interesting. He said he saw a shot with the lines showing he was offside but that the ball was visible between Salah’s legs, and so was too late. Is this suggesting that the offside given was actually using the wrong frame (on an obscured ball)?

In which case it isn’t negligence but just an error and one that happened because the system is imperfect. There have been far worse errors than that.
 

Col_M

Pointing out the Obvious
Feb 28, 2012
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Klopp’s comments are interesting. He said he saw a shot with the lines showing he was offside but that the ball was visible between Salah’s legs, and so was too late. Is this suggesting that the offside given was actually using the wrong frame (on an obscured ball)?

In which case it isn’t negligence but just an error and one that happened because the system is imperfect. There have been far worse errors than that.

ignore that. It’s clear what happened, the VAR official simply said “check complete” thinking that the goal had been awarded. The ref having called it Offside took that to mean no further action and Spurs took the free kick. Too late to change their minds.
 
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Ribble

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Apr 13, 2011
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Didn’t Neville say during one match that Ange isn’t pep because we were playing out from the back? Such a tit!

Neville is just salty about how quickly Ange has turned us around in comparison to Ten Hag, who seems more in trouble every week now.
 

oobaties

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Jan 18, 2005
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I honestly think this is the perfect scenario for us and I hope it drags on for weeks. Takes the spotlight (and pressure off us).

imagine we’d won against 11 with no controversy. The media would have been heaping praise, title talk and piling the pressure on.

The longer the pressure is off us, the better. Give us time to quietly build momentum while everyone else drones on about the injustice of VAR.
 

Cochise

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Aug 8, 2019
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The first Jota foul wasn't much but Udogie was away and starting a counter. Jota had also made a couple of fouls leading up to that IIRC, one of which was a bit clumsy on the edge of their box.
 

XIIIMPC

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Jul 23, 2010
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Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL’s admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.

We fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.

Just to be clear, this is exactly what has happened. Offside is now more accurate than ever on the whole. There was just a bizarre call this time.

Also: lol
 

FloridaSpur

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Jun 21, 2021
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Liverpool Football Club acknowledges PGMOL’s admission of their failures last night. It is clear that the correct application of the laws of the game did not occur, resulting in sporting integrity being undermined.

We fully accept the pressures that match officials work under but these pressures are supposed to be alleviated, not exacerbated, by the existence and implementation of VAR.
It is therefore unsatisfactory that sufficient time was not afforded to allow the correct decision to be made and that there was no subsequent intervention.
That such failings have already been categorised as “significant human error” is also unacceptable. Any and all outcomes should be established only by the review and with full transparency.
This is vital for the reliability of future decision-making as it applies to all clubs with learnings being used to make improvements to processes in order to ensure this kind of situation cannot occur again.
In the meantime, we will explore the range of options available, given the clear need for escalation and resolution.

"we will explore the range of options available, given the clear need for escalation and resolution"

The options available are what?

Nothing, the club need to grow a pair and move on.
 

JacoZA

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Aug 2, 2013
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I just played 5 a side with probably the most reasonable Liverpool I've met. Basically embarrassed by the hysteria around it all. We agreed the game was ruined for both teams with the 2nd sending off.
This is it though, right? I'm sure most of their fans are angry about it - as we would be too - but only a loud minority are going OTT. No reasonable fan likes officiating mistakes of this scale - even if you benefit from it. But the tin-foil-hat wearers are something else.
 

Eric_s

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Aug 30, 2004
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From a poster on Redcafe

Last season Liverpool dumped Wolves out of the FA cup because Wolves had a last minute winning goal disallowed for a phantom offside that VAR refused to check. This was in the same game the rules mysteriously changed to allow Salah to score when he WAS offside.

We've had a goal disallowed where the VAR literally drew an s shaped offside line on the screen and a player sent off by VAR for being slapped by their opponent. Sheffield United (I think) got relegated on the back of scoring a goal that VAR wouldn't check whether it crossed the line or not. Palace lost a game to Liverpool on the back of the referee correctly ignoring a dive only for VAR to overule him and award a penalty. City lost to us last season because Rashford was about a mile offside. These are just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

How was this any worse or even as bad as most of these? Just because Tottenham won?


From the same poster

didn't even think it was the worst one this season. It's a close call and it does look offside in real time. The issue is the lack of lines being drawn but that's not as bad as deliberately not drawing them straight or pretending all the cameras stopped working, both of which are things that have happened in this country and not been condemned. Onana literally got away with full force punching someone in the head on the opening weekend. I get that offside is factual but so is whether punching an opponent in the head is a foul.

The match report on the BBC is embarrassing too. Its written as if Liverpool put in the most heroic performance in the history of football. Having two players sent off in the same game due to your own indiscipline and then losing as a result isn't anything to be proud of, and definitely doesn't constitute having "it". The Jota one is about the most braindead thing you'll see all season.
 
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