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can't wait to move to Stratford it will be great for the club to move out the ghetto :lol:
Can't understand why any fan would protest now as this only plays into the hands of Haringey and against the club.
Can't understand why any fan would protest now as this only plays into the hands of Haringey and against the club.
I see what you're saying but it should never have got this far and that is purely down to Harringey wantingus to pay to regenerate the whole of Tottenham.
Personally I still hope it's a bluff by Levy and Harringey will stop their ridiculous demands.
Going to Stratford would be the worst thing that ever happened to Spurs. Be careful what you wish for.
* £3m to redesign the roads around the stadiumJesus wept… :roll:
What would these ridiculous demands be?
Why?
How so, when Haringey have already granted planning permission and have agreed the amount of money Spurs would have to pay under s106.
Haringey are asking for 16 mil under s.106, Newham are planning to give/loan Wet Spam something like 80 mil in their bid for the OS. what exactly did Haringey do to assist Spurs with the ridiculous demands of the numpties at English Heritage ? Nothing. What will Haringey be like if the borough's biggest employer and attraction leaves ? An even bigger dump. Against this backdrop shouldn't Haringey be paying Spurs rather than the other way round. They thought they had the club over a barrel and tried it on thankfully we have a Chairman who isn't a fool.
Haringey are asking for 16 mil under s.106, Newham are planning to give/loan Wet Spam something like 80 mil in their bid for the OS. what exactly did Haringey do to assist Spurs with the ridiculous demands of the numpties at English Heritage ? Nothing. What will Haringey be like if the borough's biggest employer and attraction leaves ? An even bigger dump. Against this backdrop shouldn't Haringey be paying Spurs rather than the other way round. They thought they had the club over a barrel and tried it on thankfully we have a Chairman who isn't a fool.
Matty - I've also read Haringey's letter and it cuts no ice with me, I support Spurs not Haringey and as such want the best deal for Spurs (even though I was born in Tottenham). The simple facts are the borough is stuffed without Spurs, they know it and we know it, to allow a situation to develop where the cost to Spurs of building the same stadium 5 miles down the road and spending money on upgrading Crystal Palace is 200
mil cheaper is crass incompetence on the part of the council as an executive body looking after the best interests of the borough.
As to fan protest many fans protested to retain The Shelf, a move that in part led to the fiasco of our last major ground rebuilding which led the club to the brink of bankruptcy and the Sugar takeover. All other things being equal would I rather stay at WHL ? Sure. Should we do that at the cost of progressing the team ? No. History tells us not to be Luddites.
Okay, on the £200m claim. Keirle has already said it will cost roughly the same to build the actual stadium, whether it be in Stratford or Tottenham.
So, it's the ancillary stuff that will save £200m. I just don't buy that - are we really planning on developing the hotel, supermarket, housing, cafes, museum and shop and virtually give them away for free?
Or are will they actually cost us an extra £200m to develop and us actually make more than that from their sale/leasing?
And what are Haringey supposed to do even if the £200m is actually a true figure - give us the difference to make us stay? Haringey's net spend for 2010/11 is just a shade over £400m.
I know all about the problems of previous stadium developments (I did my thesis on the accounts & finances of Tottenham up until 1994) - but if the NDP was viable at £400m, it should still be viable at £450m.
The trouble is ENIC do not want to have to contribute potentially an extra £50m when they can get the Olympic site and sell at a bigger profit.
Matty - I've also read Haringey's letter and it cuts no ice with me, I support Spurs not Haringey and as such want the best deal for Spurs (even though I was born in Tottenham). The simple facts are the borough is stuffed without Spurs, they know it and we know it, to allow a situation to develop where the cost to Spurs of building the same stadium 5 miles down the road and spending money on upgrading Crystal Palace is 200
mil cheaper is crass incompetence on the part of the council as an executive body looking after the best interests of the borough.
As to fan protest many fans protested to retain The Shelf, a move that in part led to the fiasco of our last major ground rebuilding which led the club to the brink of bankruptcy and the Sugar takeover. All other things being equal would I rather stay at WHL ? Sure. Should we do that at the cost of progressing the team ? No. History tells us not to be Luddites.
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Here endeth the lesson.
Incidently, if the OS costs £500m to build, thats just the building no transport links, how are we supposed to knock it down and rebuild for just £250m or am I missing something?
What gets me about the council is that Tottenham are prepared to invest £400m on the NDP which would kick start the much needed regeneration in the area and "Haringey have agreed how much we will pay under s106" which is nice of them. I understand its common pratice, but its like the invester is being mugged for investing.* £3m to redesign the roads around the stadium
* £1.23m to implement a Controlled Parking Zone
* £1.17m for improved walkways
* £300,000 for signage
* £1.2m to improve the walking route to White Hart Lane station
* £1.36m to build another lane on both sides of Tottenham High Road
* £361,000 on improving cycle routes.
* £5.6m towards upgrading Tottenham Hale station. (Spurs have offered £1.3m)
* £1.2m "Education contribution" to Haringey
Plus the historic buildings that they have happily let rot for years and we have to pay for this.
West Ham's manor not ours. East London not north. Heritage.
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West Ham's manor not ours. East London not north. Heritage.