Danny Rose

One other player who, after last nights game, earned the right to keep his spot in the squad (alllowing us to sell the more valuable asset when we bring in a new number 1) is Cudicini. I thought it was a top performance from him and hope he keeps his place for the final two games.

What is the song for Danny Rose? Is it suppose to be to the tune of "Daddy Cool".

What's surprised me about Rose is not that he came in and put in a great performance at left-back.

It's that he's come in and put in a series of great performances at left-back, against a wide variety of opposition, and not only has he got forward very effectively (if we had a striker who could attack the ball), but his defending has improved game-by-game.

Good for him. He's a good example of why sometimes it's right to either give a player another chance, or stick with someone who might just need game time to prove himself.

Certainly saved us a few quid and might be a heads-up for Harry and management to look again at our young players rather than going out and buying expensive back-ups (I'm looking at you, Pienaar).

hes no worse defensively than bale.

StockSpur said:

hes no worse defensively than bale.

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I actually think he's better than Bale defensively

Bobbins said:

Certainly saved us a few quid and might be a heads-up for Harry and management to look again at our young players rather than going out and buying expensive back-ups (I'm looking at you, Pienaar).

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Yeh that damn Piennar cost us a fortune! :wink:

He's been very impressive, and goes to show that some of these kids are worth giving a go.

If Benny had stayed fit until the summer and then got injured then we'd have Player X from abroad filling in, and Rose would never have got his chance. No point getting in these youth players and developing them if you are afraid to use them in the odd couple of games a season, especially at Rose's age.

He reminds me of Danny Thomas

And to think he made his debut against the scum at right midfield

and yes would love to see us sign Foster.

has looked good the last couple of games there.

my favourite bit was chris coleman calling him Justin Rose a few times

MendD3 said:

Foster

Walker Dawson King Rose
Lennon Huddlestone Jenas Bale
Defoe Crouch
vs
vDv Pav
Kranjcar Modric Sandro Pienaar
Ekotto Kaboul Gallas Corluka
Gomes​

and yes would love to see us sign Foster.

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That would be a really, really interesting game to watch - would be close I reckon

I'd go for the second team actually

brasil_spur said:

Yeh that damn Piennar cost us a fortune! :wink:

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I know you are jesting brasil_spur but he illustrates my point - we didn't need to spend the money/wages to sign him because we already had Niko. If only Harry would take a look at the players we've already got we mgiht save a few quid to spend on more important areas.

Bobbins said:

I know you are jesting brasil_spur but he illustrates my point - we didn't need to spend the money/wages to sign him because we already had Niko. If only Harry would take a look at the players we've already got we mgiht save a few quid to spend on more important areas.

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But Redknapp signed Krankjar at Pompey, and then signed him here (and played him). He has said he likes Krankjar as a person. But the fact is that Krankjar is not good enough to play in our first team. And, as a squad player he is somehwat limited. He lacks pace, and he doesn't get back and defend with any vigour. And time I have seen him in the right he has been poor. So, he isn't versatile, meaning he takes up bench place to cover one position, only (substitute places are limited, y'know). If he comes on to cover an injury at left midfield and we are desperately defending, he offers little. If we have used two subs and there is an injury to right midfield, he is poor. His game, while being exciting and skillful, is suited to games where the pace is slowed. And he has been complaining about not being in the first team, even though we all know, in our hearts, he isn't quite good enough and/or suited to the game 'Arry wants to lay (moving the ball fast, etc.).

Pienaar, on the other hand, always gets back and covers the full-back with utmost vigour - something those who want to see bad in this move continually turn a blind eye to. He presses the ball with more vigour, urgency and consistency than Krankjar. He moves the ball quicker than Krankjar. He can cover all positions across midfield - and can be 'trusted' (to use an 'Arry-ism) to put a real shiftm in in any of them. So, he is a 'safer' bet to have on the bench, as he doesn't use up one bench place for one position and is as much likely to be of use when defending resolutely as when chasing a game. And, to top it all, he has indicated from the outset that he is prepared to be a squad player and fight for his place.

In short, Krankjar is a better option to have as a 1st team player, playing a certain style, as long as you aren't relying on him to get back in defend - but we already have better options for the first team, I know it, you know it, and Krankjar knows it, and that is why he has pretty much went straight into wanting to leavae (despite his excellent relationship with Redknapp). Pienaar, on the other hand is a much, much better option to have in the squad, as he is mroe versatile, harder working and suits our style of play more, even if being less spectacular than Krankjar, and scoring less, and he is happy with that.

That is the motivation behind letting Krankjar go, and buying Pienaar. It is nothing to do with not giving Krankjar a chance. It is not about who makes the best short video of skills and goals - where Krankjar would win hands down.

Kranjcar wins hands down as a creative attack minded player from the left or through the middle, one who offers a goal threat at that, in competition with Pienaar. So when creative attack minded Bale and VDV get injured, sometimes both at once, Kranjcar not coming into the team, but Pienaar instead, is madness. Then, when Pienaar himself is injured, Kranjcar still doesn't get put in. Instead, Modric is shafted out to the left (just a few days after saying he prefers the middle quite funnily) and Huddlestone, clearly not fit or ready, is put into the middle. Did anybody notice who much better we were in the final 8 minutes of the match v Brum with Kranjcar and Lennon either side of Modric and Sandro?

Pienaar has won me over a little, he was great away to Milan and the other day v Liverpool too, but when a creative goal thread is injured then Kranjcar should always have been the man called upon. Unfortunately, Huddlestone, Pienaar, Palacios and Jenas, each one requiring the style and formation to be slightly changed from our usual, have always got the nod ahead of Niko when Bale, Lennon or VDV (all players who are vital components going forward) despiet the fact that Niko is by far the most likely to be able to create or score a goal.

BringBack_leGin said:

Kranjcar wins hands down as a creative attack minded player from the left or through the middle, one who offers a goal threat at that, in competition with Pienaar. So when creative attack minded Bale and VDV get injured, sometimes both at once, Kranjcar not coming into the team, but Pienaar instead, is madness. Then, when Pienaar himself is injured, Kranjcar still doesn't get put in. Instead, Modric is shafted out to the left (just a few days after saying he prefers the middle quite funnily) and Huddlestone, clearly not fit or ready, is put into the middle. Did anybody notice who much better we were in the final 8 minutes of the match v Brum with Kranjcar and Lennon either side of Modric and Sandro?

Pienaar has won me over a little, he was great away to Milan and the other day v Liverpool too, but when a creative goal thread is injured then Kranjcar should always have been the man called upon. Unfortunately, Huddlestone, Pienaar, Palacios and Jenas, each one requiring the style and formation to be slightly changed from our usual, have always got the nod ahead of Niko when Bale, Lennon or VDV (all players who are vital components going forward) despiet the fact that Niko is by far the most likely to be able to create or score a goal.

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Are you ignoring the first 60 minutes when we completely dominated them in favour of the final 8 minutes when they were pushing for the goal to save them from relegation?

kishman said:

What is the song for Danny Rose? Is it suppose to be to the tune of "Daddy Cool".

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Anybody? :shrug:

I bumped this thread up just to ask that question.

kishman said:

Anybody? :shrug:

I bumped this thread up just to ask that question.

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The answer is yes

Krafty said:

The answer is yes

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Thank you.

"Danny, Danny Rose, Danny, Danny Rose."

BringBack_leGin said:

Kranjcar wins hands down as a creative attack minded player from the left or through the middle, one who offers a goal threat at that, in competition with Pienaar. So when creative attack minded Bale and VDV get injured, sometimes both at once, Kranjcar not coming into the team, but Pienaar instead, is madness. Then, when Pienaar himself is injured, Kranjcar still doesn't get put in. Instead, Modric is shafted out to the left (just a few days after saying he prefers the middle quite funnily) and Huddlestone, clearly not fit or ready, is put into the middle. Did anybody notice who much better we were in the final 8 minutes of the match v Brum with Kranjcar and Lennon either side of Modric and Sandro?

Pienaar has won me over a little, he was great away to Milan and the other day v Liverpool too, but when a creative goal thread is injured then Kranjcar should always have been the man called upon. Unfortunately, Huddlestone, Pienaar, Palacios and Jenas, each one requiring the style and formation to be slightly changed from our usual, have always got the nod ahead of Niko when Bale, Lennon or VDV (all players who are vital components going forward) despiet the fact that Niko is by far the most likely to be able to create or score a goal.

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These are fair points.

Like I said though, I think the vital issue for Redknapp is that sometimes we need to bring on an attack minded player on the left, but that player needs to get back and put a shift in dfenensively - and that ain't Krankjar.

I wouldn't want to paint it black & white: I like Kranks, and there have been times where I, along with everyone else, apart from 'Arry (seemingly) has thought the game was crying out for Kranks. I believe, however, that he sees Pienaar as a more valuable member of the squad, for the reasons given, in the long-term. I also think Kranks coming back from the Summer overweight and, maybe, being a bit moody, haven't helped his cause - I just couldn't picture Pienaar returning after the Summer in that condition, and he has already said he is happy to be a squad player and fight for his place.