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Tottenham Vs Manchester City: Match Thread

SpursManChris

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HEY UK GUYS! it's 11.30PM, go the hell to sleep and forget about the match. You all have that luxury! I don't! It's 10.30AM with me, I have to go through the rest of the damn day.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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WHO?
Capoue? I don't know whether you watched the game but he came on and was pretty much the same as Dembele.

I'm sure the manager is massively embarrassed but you should be looking at the whole picture and assigning blame on the players and levy and co. Not just the manager... If you really need to blame someone. We actually got back into it after a shit start and were in it up until the sending off without playing that well... Manchester City are operating on a different level at the moment. If they turned up. Which they did. This was only going one way. Open your eyes.

5 minutes after Capoue came on we were a man down and already a sinking ship. Its not really fair to judge him against Dembele who started in a team full of 11 and most probably trained the whole week to play as part of the starting team.

Capoue is a much more experienced player and proved at the beginning of the season that he can play a defensive role in midfield effectively.

The manager is responsible for the team selection and set up. He set us up too open when he had the tools to give us more of a chance. This was not the game for an unexperienced kid, as his performance proved.

We were completely outplayed from start to finish and to weakly just say its because "Man City have better players than us" is doing the managers role a complete disservice.

By that logic any teams we play in the bottom half of the table might as well not turn up against us because we have better players. We will steam roller them all.
 

Joeyboey

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Aug 31, 2011
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Just back from the game.

Siggy was really really poor. I didn't realise how tactically unaware he was but tonight he was totally unable to pick up his man and track runners. Failed to do basic things like stay goal side of Zabaleta. Actually quite shocked and alarmed.
 

iluvsteffenfreund

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Just back from the game.

Siggy was really really poor. I didn't realise how tactically unaware he was but tonight he was totally unable to pick up his man and track runners. Failed to do basic things like stay goal side of Zabaleta. Actually quite shocked and alarmed.
He is so so so bad.. No awareness and weak as piss, get rid and fast
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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Just back from the game.

Siggy was really really poor. I didn't realise how tactically unaware he was but tonight he was totally unable to pick up his man and track runners. Failed to do basic things like stay goal side of Zabaleta. Actually quite shocked and alarmed.
Same as usual then....
 

SelbYido

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Jan 31, 2007
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HEY UK GUYS! it's 11.30PM, go the hell to sleep and forget about the match. You all have that luxury! I don't! It's 10.30AM with me, I have to go through the rest of the damn day.

I'm an insomniac, I've a good couple of days to go yet...;)
 

Locotoro

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Sep 2, 2004
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Just got back from the match and a few observations:

1) City fans are absolute thugs. A gang of 10 adults or so rushed and bottled a kid who looked no older than 14. Animals!!

2) To the game, Bentaleb is not currently of the quality required to be a back up at the level we want to compete at. His ball retention was not good at all and he gave the ball away in dangerous positions too many times.

3) Siggy was a passenger. if ever you could say that about a player in a match it was him today.

4) The ref killed the game with the red card. From where I was sat it looked a good precise tackle albeit from behind.

5) Adebayor worked very hard and was easily our best player but was left isolated time after time.

6) Chiriches scares me
 

Mr Pink

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Just back from the game.

Siggy was really really poor. I didn't realise how tactically unaware he was but tonight he was totally unable to pick up his man and track runners. Failed to do basic things like stay goal side of Zabaleta. Actually quite shocked and alarmed.

Not surprised to hear someone who was at the game say that. Only watched it on TV tonight but I think I heard his name mentioned twice the first half. Completely anonymous - and people were calling Lennon anonymous - WTF was Siggi?

On a brighter note, how good was that Lloris save...like WOW.
 

Marty

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We can argue that the ref (or linesman really) killed the game, but once again we've shown that we don't have players who stand up in the face of adversity. A couple of bad decisions and we more or less throw in the towel.

A 2011/12 vintage Scott Parker, for example, wouldn't have let that happen. We need to unearth some leaders.
 

Syn_13

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Jul 17, 2008
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Oh aye and I'd have happily taken any result with both hands and had a smug little chuckle. Just that, the slight bit of buggery aside in the end, I'm not devastated by this loss. Sending offs aside etc, I feel we were simply beaten by a superior side on the night. It's not a result that will weigh on my mind at all.

I hope the appeal is successful but I'll not hold my breath tbh, such is the FA's laughable track record and consistency on the matters to do with the officials' performance in games.

This is not one of those games we can realistically expect 3 points from. A draw would be nice but they're too strong for us this year. I'm more frustrated when we drop points with clubs we really should beat. The home draw against West Brom has been the only one really under Tim in the league, so it isn't too bad.
 

Nynorsk

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All the decisions that went against us was unlucky, but correct by the book. The offside was ruled correctly because Adebayor touched or tried to touch the ball. The penalty was awarded correctly because Rose touched the heel and maybe also the knee before he got the ball. The sending off is always harsh in these kind of situations, but it's hard to argue it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity.

However, with another ref those decisions would have gone in our favour, and then the result could have been different. City deserved to win anyway, and at least Arse is not top of the league anymore, we've made sure of that.
 

SpurSince57

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There is a temptation here to castigate some of the Spurs players and management for this result but while they are not blameless there are other factors:

(1) Man City are the best side in the league.
(2) We were hindered twice by the linesman and the second bad decision put the game out of reach when we were still very much in the game.
(3) Sherwood made an error in playing Sigurdsson ahead of Capoue. He should have moved Eriksen, who was ineffective in the middle, to the left and played Dembele higher up the pitch - and away from our own goal. But hindsight is a wonderful thing!
(4) I think the 6-0 defeat had some form of influence on our confidence going into this game. We were scared to be on the ball for the first 30 minutes.
(5) Bentaleb and Dembele as a midfield partnership has flaws and better sides will exploit it. They're both very left-footed.
(6) Injuries to key players has not helped. I think Sandro, Vertonghen, Townsend and Paulinho would have made a difference. Whether that would be enough to get a result, I'm not so sure...

Again, it sure wasn't at the Etihad.

I'm really not sure what Sig was meant to be doing—I really want to like the guy, but there comes a point when you just have to throw your hands in the air and say, 'WTF?" Lennon was largely invisible, but unless someone gives him the ball he's not going to do a great deal, and for much of the game no-one seemed to try too hard to find him. Would playing Capoue instead of Sig have been a good idea? Almost certainly. Would it have made a difference to the result? Almost certainly not. City were really up for it, knew a win would put them at the top, and after a couple of ho-hum showings against the Barcodes and Watford were back on top form. And I think your (4) is dead right; we just didn't believe we could win this. This isn't the Mancini City we saw off at the Lane last season, still less the City that used to phone in the result before the Arabs took over; this is a different beast entirely.

Big plus for me, especially as I've been rubbishing him since forever, was that Rose had his best-ever game at LB and actually made me think he might be up to the job long-term.
 

VoteMe4Prez

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I'm not holding grudges after tonight's destruction but all of the Citeh fans phoning in to TalkShite (don't ask why I've been listening lol) are absolute clueless morons. I know that station gets their fair share of twatty kneejerking Spurs fans too, but honest to God their fans are beyond reprieve.
 

Joeyboey

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Not surprised to hear someone who was at the game say that. Only watched it on TV tonight but I think I heard his name mentioned twice the first half. Completely anonymous - and people were calling Lennon anonymous - WTF was Siggi?

On a brighter note, how good was that Lloris save...like WOW.

In a game where you need players to work when we have the ball and even harder when we don't, he did neither and totally neglected his role.

I like Timmy but choosing Siggy over a harder working Chadli for example perplexes me.

Todays game was crying out for Townsend. We lacked pace and penetration. We badly needed a 'have a go hero' swashbuckling type.

I actually thought Rose's last minute saving tackle was better than Lloris' save. Oh wait :(
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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What worries me is that we Sherwood never caters his lineup or tactics to the opposition. We played the same team against arsenal and palace, and then the same team versus swansea and city. A highly worrisome trend
 

alfiespurs

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We can argue that the ref (or linesman really) killed the game, but once again we've shown that we don't have players who stand up in the face of adversity. A couple of bad decisions and we more or less throw in the towel.

A 2011/12 vintage Scott Parker, for example, wouldn't have let that happen. We need to unearth some leaders.

Agreed - But Tim Nice But DIM does not like Defensive Midfielders - Scotty Parker amazing player - should have signed him long time ago, instead we get JENAS ... that reminds me who is our new scapegoat :)
 

SpurSince57

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All the decisions that went against us was unlucky, but correct by the book. The offside was ruled correctly because Adebayor touched or tried to touch the ball. The penalty was awarded correctly because Rose touched the heel and maybe also the knee before he got the ball. The sending off is always harsh in these kind of situations, but it's hard to argue it wasn't a goalscoring opportunity.

However, with another ref those decisions would have gone in our favour, and then the result could have been different. City deserved to win anyway, and at least Arse is not top of the league anymore, we've made sure of that.

Pretty sure he didn't, and the reason given was that Dawson was offside, was it not? It did seem as if Ade was blocking the linesman's view so that he couldn't see Zabaleta (?) was playing Daws onside, so it was perhaps a forgivable error. The penalty certainly wasn't. Rose definitely got the ball before contact was made.
 
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