The Case For Frank de Boer...continued

Breezer · May 13, 2014

yojambo said:
Classy guy...

Classy and realistic!

sweetness · May 13, 2014

ItsBoris said:
If that's the case my guess would be Benitez as we would have little reason to wait if it was Poch or FDB. Maybe we're waiting for Benitez to finish the season with Napoli before we announce anything.

In that case let's hope the Italian season keeps going all year...

Ghost Hardware · May 13, 2014

Looks like its Poch for sure, the goat and JJ together doesn't give much in the way of other possibilities. I will back him 100% but I must say I am quit disappointed as I was really hoping for FDB. It's not that I don't rate Poch, more that I highly rate FDB.

SpursDave88 · May 13, 2014

I will back Pochettino if he is our manager, but I wanted FdB

absolute bobbins · May 13, 2014

spurs9 said:
Unless FDB was agreed before Sherwood was sacked, it must be Poch as FDB is in Asia with Ajax until 18/05.

Distance doesn't really mean anything though does it? All you need is a stable internet connection to conduct an interview

mill · May 13, 2014

absolute bobbins said:
Distance doesn't really mean anything though does it? All you need is a stable internet connection to conduct an interview

Or a group wank

jackson · May 13, 2014

millsey said:
Love it. Instant respect from players. Instead of les fucking Ferdinand

Sir Les fucking Ferdinand thank you very much...

Ghost Hardware · May 13, 2014

I actually wouldn't be surprised if we sign Poch, Utd get Ancelotti, Wenger leaves for Monaco, FDB goes to Arsenal and LVG vanishes in a cloud of disdain.

spurs9 · May 14, 2014

absolute bobbins said:
Distance doesn't really mean anything though does it? All you need is a stable internet connection to conduct an interview

JJ is saying it's done which suggests the contract is signed, not just interview conducted.

The Scarecrow · May 14, 2014

spurs9 said:
JJ is saying it's done which suggests the contract is signed, not just interview conducted.

Levy has a highly operative fax machine, doesn't he?

Mr Pink · May 14, 2014

If you align this with what JJ said the other night with regards to the bet over golf stuff I'd be amazed if it wasn't Poch.

absolute bobbins · May 14, 2014

spurs9 said:
JJ is saying it's done which suggests the contract is signed, not just interview conducted.

Then for the first time I categorically do not believe him. While this process has obviously been in motion for a lot longer than the mere 12 hours since we announced that Tim was fired, I cannot accept that a man as calculating as Daniel would make, or been seen to make a snap decision without exploring every possible option.

Mr Pink · May 14, 2014

absolute bobbins said:
Then for the first time I categorically do not believe him. While this process has obviously been in motion for a lot longer than the mere 12 hours since we announced that Tim was fired, I cannot accept that a man as calculating as Daniel would make, or been seen to make a snap decision without exploring every possible option.

I'm sure he's been considering plenty for several weeks now, and I'm also sure he probably has his preferences before inviting candidates for interview. In any case, we don't know who's he spoken to or in what capacity.

nferno · May 14, 2014

It's not like JJetset is always right, hopefully he is wrong again. Pochettino would be a mistake, I can't put my finger on why but he just doesn't seem right. Yes we might have free flowing dazzling football again, but it will be capitulation galore again too.

Bus-Conductor · May 14, 2014

Veuve Clicquot said:
Another reason I believe De Boer should be preferred to Pochettino (as well as reasons already posted) is his winning mentality as outlined by Patrick Kluivert:-

Speaking to ESPN, Kluivert enthused about his former teammate at Ajax and Barcelona. "Like Pep Guardiola as a player, you could see Frank would become a trainer," Kluivert said.

"He is a winner. He wanted to win everything, even card games, anything other than football, he wanted to win, and that's the most important thing everybody needs to have. That's the most important thing, that you are a winner".

He has shown this through his playing career and his record breaking 4 league titles at Ajax as manager.
The reason Fergie was so successful was because of this mentality, he hated to lose any game and he managed to instill this in his players.

This is what worries me about Pochettino, his supporters talk about his playing philosophy which is obviously important, but is he a winner ? His managerial experience is at 2 clubs that are not expected to win many games, can he cope with the extra pressure of expectation at Spurs and turn our mentally fragile players into winners?

I'm not sure he can and that is why I would prefer De Boer as he has the philosophy as well as the winning mentality that our club needs.

Bang this.

Spurs1 · May 14, 2014

With all the talk of JJ saying its done, I believe there are 2 possibilities:

1- JJ is wrong
2- Its poch

I think it is going to be pochettino, I have done for that last couple of days. Im not sure if its done yet but my gut says pochettino. He ticks all levys boxes

edited to say if im right, im reasonably happy and looking forward to the new season and what he can bring

spurs9 · May 14, 2014

Just some facts for you. Below are win rates vs the English Top 4 (the season they played them).

Poch - 27% win rate (54% loss rate)
Sherwood - 0% Win Rate (100% loss rate)
FDB - 50% Win Rate (25% Loss Rate)

DaSpurs · May 14, 2014

nferno said:
It's not like JJetset is always right, hopefully he is wrong again. Pochettino would be a mistake, I can't put my finger on why but he just doesn't seem right. Yes we might have free flowing dazzling football again, but it will be capitulation galore again too.

This. I think FdB would be capable of ending the cycle of the last decade or so, but with Poch I just see it repeating yet again very soon. I think FdB would've done the best job with rebuilding us this year as well, and with possibly even making a profit. With Poch, I've no fucking clue where he intends to find necessary improvements.

ButchCassidy · May 14, 2014

Wonder how many of those backing or slating Poch/FDB have watched Soton/Ajax more than a handful of times...

DaSpurs · May 14, 2014

ButchCassidy said:
Wonder how many of those backing or slating Poch/FDB have watched Soton/Ajax more than a handful of times...

Don't blame you for asking, but I'm not entirely certain as to your point... that there are seemingly some misinformed opinions here?

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