The Spurs Lad
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That may partially be down to the coach wanting realistic signings, not 30m Hulk and Moutinho.
Do you think Jay Rodriguez will be fit again?
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That may partially be down to the coach wanting realistic signings, not 30m Hulk and Moutinho.
SandroClegane
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Hockey is 90% a leg sport. I partially tore my MCL and couldn't plant on my knee for a few months without sharp pain. There's a lot more change of direction than football and you're skating at close to full speed for most of the game. I'd say hockey would be the most comparable to football in terms of the amount you need your legs.
agrdavidsfan
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You are right it is the most comparable I was told never to try skating after my ACL.
Hockey is a lot of direction changing.
But footballs main problem with knee Injurys is the impact of running and changing direction certain muscles fatigue and weaken through out a match then you have the added risk of jumping and landing unbalanced
agrdavidsfan
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There is also different types of ACL injuries
1 - A tear where you just tear a little bit of of the ligament
It's graded 1,2,3 bases on severity doesn't tear all way through (can recover from this type in 3-4 months)
2. A complete tear basically a snap clean through the ligament (9 months)
3. A Complete rupture where you can tear it very badly or in my case get your whole ligament to explode or tear into little fibers
This is 9 months plus but if you do rupture it 7/10 your cartilage goes with it and then it gets nasty as other things can go in diagnosed
1 - A tear where you just tear a little bit of of the ligament
It's graded 1,2,3 bases on severity doesn't tear all way through (can recover from this type in 3-4 months)
2. A complete tear basically a snap clean through the ligament (9 months)
3. A Complete rupture where you can tear it very badly or in my case get your whole ligament to explode or tear into little fibers
This is 9 months plus but if you do rupture it 7/10 your cartilage goes with it and then it gets nasty as other things can go in diagnosed
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The NFL cant be compared to the highest level of PL. Their rest periods are longer they have half a year of down time to combat fatigue. Even during a game the NFL players have less game time and a bigger rest time whereas in football they are expected to run a 10k for 90 mins which involves other people kicking and pushing them whilst running at speed in different directions.
A footballer would put alot more strain on their joints, bones and muscles. The fatigue that footballers have is worrying and which is why the best fitness teams actually do less training nearer the end of the season.
A footballer will cover around about 400k a season, which is more than any sport. Around 10% of that is at or full speed which is 40k at sprinting speed a year
SandroClegane
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But I didn't compare the two, just recovery times for injuries to show how far the technique has come.
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I did my acl, had a graft from the hamstring, happened 10 years ago, I have not kicked a ball since.
Ruined my football career, leg is still not full strength, probably arthritis to look forward to also
millsey
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Prob beacaue they aren't 40 million players like hulk on 200k a week helps too. But looks oike the starter guy has gone to premiership players brought in. Which was sherwoods idea
I've had both ACL's reconstructed. The second most recent one was miles easier than the first in tierms of recovery. You really don't appreciate how far thigns have come until you experience both sides.
4 months and the knee is as strong as ever, in fact the biggest problem post op was muscle degeneration. That took a lot of hard work to get back up to and beyond it's original state.
For a pro footballer this would be a lot easier and they would have even better access to treatment & rehab care.
The proportion of non pro players who never recover from ACl injuries is minute now, so it really isn't a problem. As I always say it's the meniscus problems, that often goes with this injury, that is the biggest issue, however even that isn't that bad these days.
So just relax. He should be fine.
4 months and the knee is as strong as ever, in fact the biggest problem post op was muscle degeneration. That took a lot of hard work to get back up to and beyond it's original state.
For a pro footballer this would be a lot easier and they would have even better access to treatment & rehab care.
The proportion of non pro players who never recover from ACl injuries is minute now, so it really isn't a problem. As I always say it's the meniscus problems, that often goes with this injury, that is the biggest issue, however even that isn't that bad these days.
So just relax. He should be fine.
As far as I know there isn't a grading system for ACL tears (that's muscle injuries). Because it's hard to categorise whether a partially torn ligament (particulary ACL) can withstand the pressures of weight bearing and twisting, until you've fully recovered and are post rehab. Instead they tend to rate them as in 80% capacity. However it's hard for them to tell because MRI scans aren;t that great and even key hole surgery (which is the best way of telling) doesn;t always give them the best information.
Even a partial tear may require surgery because the acl and the pcl have little blood supply, which means they don't repair. Where as an mcl and lcl both have slightly better blood supply (as they are more exposed) and therefore can recover if you partially tear them.
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High chance he won't be as good as before and also high chance he will do it again.
At Loughborough we did studies on ACL and similar injury recovery in football and the effect it has as mentioned physically and mentally is pretty significant.
To be playing at such a high level requires peak physical condition,I hope he makes an amazing recovery but it's a massive risk.
If we keep Ade Soldado and Kane I suppose it's not as much of a risk.
Class player but would ask a very low price given the risk. Morgan would be class.
At Loughborough we did studies on ACL and similar injury recovery in football and the effect it has as mentioned physically and mentally is pretty significant.
To be playing at such a high level requires peak physical condition,I hope he makes an amazing recovery but it's a massive risk.
If we keep Ade Soldado and Kane I suppose it's not as much of a risk.
Class player but would ask a very low price given the risk. Morgan would be class.
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No offence intended but it's also worth noting that he'll be getting the best medical care that money can buy.
Assuming yours was an NHS job. (I know they do a good job, before you all start!
)I'd be interested to know the rates of repeat ACL injuries, particularly where the graft has failed? I don't think I can name one I know of. Yet I know of thousands that were successful.
People need to get their heads out of the 1980's. You wont believe how much things have changed over the last 10 years. In fact many who have suffered one ACL injury then condition their bodies (around the knee - hammy, quad and calf) to a much better standard than before the injury. Likewise many players who don't give it this much effort are just as prone to these injuries, so it really is becoming less and less of an issue.
Strootman, Falcao and Walcott are three recent players to suffer ACl injuries and in the case of Strootman he is being touted around some of the top clubs.
People need to get their heads out of the 1980's. You wont believe how much things have changed over the last 10 years. In fact many who have suffered one ACL injury then condition their bodies (around the knee - hammy, quad and calf) to a much better standard than before the injury. Likewise many players who don't give it this much effort are just as prone to these injuries, so it really is becoming less and less of an issue.
Strootman, Falcao and Walcott are three recent players to suffer ACl injuries and in the case of Strootman he is being touted around some of the top clubs.
Oh and I forgot Alan Shearer who did his when at Blackburn and then went on to be the most expensive English player and one of the best strikers in English history.
Vidic, Rossi, Jagielka, even Fabian Delph did his acl and came back a better player. So many players to have suffered this 'career threatening injury'.
In fact can we name any who didn't come back because of the ACL?
Vidic, Rossi, Jagielka, even Fabian Delph did his acl and came back a better player. So many players to have suffered this 'career threatening injury'.
In fact can we name any who didn't come back because of the ACL?
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