jezz
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Correct
Tim was happy to take credit when we won.
When we lost it was someone else's fault.
He picked the team and accepted he got it wrong, but no it was players fault.
He was a PR disaster.
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Tim was happy to take credit when we won.
When we lost it was someone else's fault.
He picked the team and accepted he got it wrong, but no it was players fault.
He was a PR disaster.
DaSpurs
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Tbf, in some of the losses he was absolutely right about the character of the players, but you are right in general that he very much enacted two extremes: credit for victory/shifting of blame for losses. I don't really recall him shifting blame though for some of the dropped points to weaker sides in which we didn't get housed, such as West Brom, Norwich, and Hull; so I think it was the particularly painful losses that stood out and indeed in those he did very much shift blame. I do think he should have at least accepted some blame for the Chelsea loss in particular, as Walker in midfield at the Bridge was simply never going to turn out well.
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I've a few:
* Take away the goals, which take a few seconds to score, and we'd be shouting about how awful a season Eriksen has had.
* Harry Kane is playing like the Harry Kane we all thought would never make it since his England debut.
* Paulinho and Capoue are both better than Mason but haven't been shown the same patience when bad. If Mason was a French signing he wouldn't be playing.
* Although he has to be financially "backed", I don't believe Pochettino has shown enough of what his philosophy actually is to risk the possibility of having another new manager with players that don't suit him.
* Take away the goals, which take a few seconds to score, and we'd be shouting about how awful a season Eriksen has had.
* Harry Kane is playing like the Harry Kane we all thought would never make it since his England debut.
* Paulinho and Capoue are both better than Mason but haven't been shown the same patience when bad. If Mason was a French signing he wouldn't be playing.
* Although he has to be financially "backed", I don't believe Pochettino has shown enough of what his philosophy actually is to risk the possibility of having another new manager with players that don't suit him.
Syn_13
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I said it then and I'll say it now. I bear no ill will against Tim, I just feel that he was trying to run before he could walk. He made some good moves, and made some awful ones. He focused a lot on attack, which was very successful for the most part, but we were still a shambles at the back. His biggest problem, ultimately, was his attitude. Yes, he was right about some of the players, but he went about it the wrong way. He needed to build his own reputation first before trying to put on the PL manager act. If we were a small club he could've got away with it, but we have too many well paid players, and big egos, for that to work.
As I said in another thread though, I'm fed up of seeing people drag up former managers when our current one isn't doing so well. We have Poch now, whether we like it or not, and we've got to just move on and accept it. Personally, I don't think it's been any worse, but it certainly hasn't been any better. It may be because there are too many bad apples in the squad that need shifting, or because Poch just fails to influence any of the players. I guess we'll have to give it a few months into next season to see where we're heading.
Spurger King
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I honestly think that all of what you have said would have been more accepted if he was in a 'caretaker' position. It would have made it look like some plucky experimenting and bravery (with largely positive effects). Instead, he put himself in a position where he was being assessed as a bona fide manager that might be around for the long-term, and a lot of fans didn't take to his attitude.
Jol stepped in as a caretaker manager, and won over the fans and the board in such a way that he landed the full-time job. Sherwood should have tried to do the same. From a psychological perspective I'd say him having the title of 'manager' completely distorted how his impact was assessed. He should have been the intermediary that surprised everyone. Instead he was the novice that dived into the deep end and got treated as if he was a professional swimmer.
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Oh for the days when we had a trappy, tactically inept, no plan B, run arrraaaaahnd a bit, 'you never had it so good' **** as a manager and finished fourth twice.
We'll never learn. Never.
We'll never learn. Never.
THFCSPURS19
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I find it so hard to care nowadays. We've had three seasons in a row with us playing shit football and I can't fucking stand it anymore.
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We're finally being linked with wingers and the manager has publicly pointed out a need for pace, there is light at the end of the tunnel
Literally more hopeful at the moment than I was at any point summer 2013, I'll admit it.
THFCSPURS19
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Hopefully we'll get more excitement, but the links to Thauvin are worrying, considering the fact that he's not that quick and it's not like we're going to sign more than two wingers, and IMO, any winger we buy needs to be very quick.We're finally being linked with wingers and the manager has publicly pointed out a need for pace, there is light at the end of the tunnel
Literally more hopeful at the moment than I was at any point summer 2013, I'll admit it.
We have so many other problems as well so I'm really starting to feel down about Spurs. It doesn't help that I have important exams for the next two weeks.
The only tiny light I see is the new stadium and hopefully a takeover after seeing today's ITK. Seriously, this club needs a fucking boost from somewhere.
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Fuck that. As someone once said……...I got 99 problems and the Spurs ain't one of them………..
THFCSPURS19
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That guy now seems to say "Yes, you should click on my username and then click on 'start conversation' "
Bobbins
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Eleven more seasons of Premier League football to look forward to!
mike_l
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We are one of the least enjoyable sides to watch, it's painful to watch us make the game look so incredibly difficult, both defence and attack and it only seems to be getting worse. Even victories are difficult to enjoy as they rarely feel deserved.
Chris12
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I don't think we have been that far off from Top 4 as everyone keeps saying we are/were. Football playing wise - yes worse. But points wise we were in it for a while and were in a great position after Arsenal and other shit and then even after Manchester United lose there was still possibility to be in the running but Poch screwed the Pooch and had us drawing to Burnley and losing to the likes of Villa and Stoke which has put us out.
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One of the issues with getting a manager who has only been at smaller clubs is that teams setup differently to that of a top team.
Southampton last season had alot teams that would play more openly but since we are a difficult team, teams are happy to just sit deep and wait for the counter.
We don't seem to have an answer for it either.
At the moment Pochettino is trying to learn how to overcome that but he hasn't in terms of the overall game plan.
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The 5th, 6th, and 6th-8th finishes of the last 3 seasons are more the result of the after glow of the Redknapp and Arnesen/Jol years. How would the managers we've had over these last 3 seasons have got on if they'd taken over the team Jol did, who had just finished 14th? Or the one Redknapp did, which was bottom and had finished 11th the year before. Midtable, I'd expect.
Pleat_Out
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So you'd rather have a bloke who was a good PR man rather than wins football games? Why don't we get David Cameron to replace Poch then?
Blackcanary
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But that PR is heard by the players too - from what I could see, they neither liked nor respected Tim. He'd have got nowhere with that dressing room in the long term and you could see that the longer the season went on.
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