Well done Levy and co.

SpartanSpur · Sep 2, 2016

THFCSPURS19 said:
They are all from last season.

That is the point

THFCSPURS19 · Sep 2, 2016

SpartanSpur said:
That is the point

Oops. I'd still say not buying a striker last summer was pretty stupid.

SpartanSpur · Sep 2, 2016

THFCSPURS19 said:
Oops. I'd still say not buying a striker last summer was pretty stupid.

Yeah I can't argue with the ratings TBF (although the last one is a bit crap), but the point is not to worry what 'experts' say based on starts and transfers as they do not always translate to success on the pitch.

Taking those in to account the following should have occured:-

City walk the league (4th)
Utd stand still in CL places (didn't)
Chelsea drop down a bit (fair dues)
Liverpool contest Arsenal for CL places (nah, and Arse actually got a higher finish)
Spurs drop to 6th or lower (3rd bitches)
Newcastle mid-table (lol nope)
Leicester get relegated (Champions)

Gilzeanking · Sep 2, 2016

double0 said:
I hear you @Mullers but at some points we're going to have to pay the going rate. This window was exceptional, it being the first from the television deal, many clubs were breaking their own transfer records even C.Palace paid over 30M for a striker a record transfer fee greater than ours and they paid a chunk up front.

Yep Its quite easy to get one's thinking left behind in previous market conditions . Things have changed , theres been loads of thirty-something mill transfers this time round. We're one of the biggest clubs ,its normal we'd expect to pay up for a 27 yr old ,44 cap French , Prem ready player who btw , tore us a proverbial new one in May .

Pellshek · Sep 2, 2016

It's pretty clear that the game-changing impact of the new TV deal has passed a lot of people by.

Clubs now have 50% more TV money than they did before. Compare that increase to the inflation in transfer fees, and you'll see that the two match almost perfectly.

Sissoko is the perfect example. He's a £20m player, whose value has risen 50% along with the TV deal, thus making him a £30m player.

We sold Chadli for £13m. Pre-deal, he's a £9m player. Add 50%, and you get the £13m.

Pogba is a £60m player - bench-marking it off the fees for the likes of Bale, Ronaldo, Higuain etc. - who's now been bumped up 50% to £90m.

Try this with any player moving to or within England this window, and suddenly a whole bunch of huge transfer fees start to make a lot more sense.

Mullers · Sep 2, 2016

double0 said:
I hear you @Mullers but at some points we're going to have to pay the going rate. This window was exceptional, it being the first from the television deal, many clubs were breaking their own transfer records even C.Palace paid over 30M for a striker a record transfer fee greater than ours and they paid a chunk up front.

We are in the CL that will generate greater revenue for the club. We were right to back Pochettinho otherwise where would that have left us going forward.

I would disagree that is necessary and again I would cite Leicester City. Then also look at some of the signings we made like Dier, Alli and Wimmer. We scrambled around from Zaha to M.S making low ball bids at the last minute. We had all summer to plan for that.
I understand why Poch wants players with premiership experience but at that kind of price which makes him our most expensive signing, the answer must be no and if he gets upset so be it.

The most important game changer for me is changing the squad mentality making everyone believe 100% that they can beat anyone. That is what Leicester did.

markiespurs · Sep 2, 2016

I'd say we've had a good to very good transfer window.

With the wages we pay, improving our starting 11 was alway going to be difficult at best. What we've done instead is improve the overall quality of the squad. We now have a very flexible squad, with a lot of the players capable of playing in more than one position, which will give Poch loads of options for rotation and formation.

homer hotspur · Sep 2, 2016

Did anyone understand our interest in Morgan Schneidelin? Apparently, it was confirmed by Man Utd as being real. I know it’s all irrelevant now but signing him would have been even more mystifying than the Sissoko deal. At least with him, you can sort of see where he may play an AM role, but Schneidelin doesn't have any real pace and would have just been another Dier/ Wanyama option. Just seemed very odd. They also have the same initials, putting me to the trouble of spelling their names in full!

dudu · Sep 2, 2016

Mullers said:
Because Poch doesn't care about this competition and neither do a lot of fans.

Did you see how Onomah got chopped down from promising , exciting player to a player not good enough for the prem, in just one sub appearance by a lot of the fans? Same thing will happen to winks.

If you listen to those fans then more fool you mate. Most football fans opinions don't really bother me.

Poch trusted him to come on in a difficult situation and I thought he did well. Don't really see what about that scenario has anything to do with winks other than showing if Poch trusts you, you will get your chance

double0 · Sep 2, 2016

Mullers said:
I would disagree that is necessary and again I would cite Leicester City. Then also look at some of the signings we made like Dier, Alli and Wimmer. We scrambled around from Zaha to M.S making low ball bids at the last minute. We had all summer to plan for that.
I understand why Poch wants players with premiership experience but at that kind of price which makes him our most expensive signing, the answer must be no and if he gets upset so be it.

The most important game changer for me is changing the squad mentality making everyone believe 100% that they can beat anyone. That is what Leicester did.

But even Leicester paid 30M for a player.

I think you're missing the point we're in CL and we have to compete otherwise what is the point also 5 installment payments ain't going to cripple us.

We can afford it and Pochettinho wanted Sissoko, be happy we can do that.

Mullers · Sep 2, 2016

dudu said:
If you listen to those fans then more fool you mate. Most football fans opinions don't really bother me.

Poch trusted him to come on in a difficult situation and I thought he did well. Don't really see what about that scenario has anything to do with winks other than showing if Poch trusts you, you will get your chance

It's not about listening to them, I am just saying what a lot of fans are like.
We have MS as option and Noudou as options now, so I think his have been halved. I hope I am wrong and he does get game time.

doctor stefan Freud · Sep 2, 2016

All six foot or taller:
Lloris
Toby
Verts
Dier
Dembele
Wanyama
Sissoko
Son
Lamela
Kane
Janssen
CCV
Wimmer
Dele

We have some serious presence on the pitch, but equally most of these players are comfortable on the ball. If Poch can marry pace, power, movement and a range of passing (think Toby's long verticals, this seasons early signs of improved crossing, etc)- in short if he can blend athleticism with skill- we could be very, very useful. I'm being optimistic of course, but our potential is very intriguing

Mullers · Sep 2, 2016

double0 said:
But even Leicester paid 30M for a player.

I think you're missing the point we're in CL and we have to compete otherwise what is the point also 5 installment payments ain't going to cripple us.

We can afford it and Pochettinho wanted Sissoko, be happy we can do that.

But it remains to be seen whether they win something or finish top 6, spending that money is not a guarantee of anything.

To me MS is nothing special, I'm sure if another club spent that money on him they would be mocked.

THFCSPURS19 · Sep 2, 2016

doctor stefan Freud said:
All six foot or taller:
Lloris
Toby
Verts
Dier
Dembele
Wanyama
Sissoko
Son
Lamela
Kane
Janssen
CCV
Wimmer
Dele

We have some serious presence on the pitch, but equally most of these players are comfortable on the ball. If Poch can marry pace, power, movement and a range of passing (think Toby's long verticals, this seasons early signs of improved crossing, etc)- in short if he can blend athleticism with skill- we could be very, very useful. I'm being optimistic of course, but our potential is very intriguing

Janssen's 5'11" I think. But he's a tank so looks taller.

Lighty64 · Sep 8, 2016

TH1239 said:
Sissoko and Wanyama are going to be big hits for us. I think Janssen will have a bit of an up and down season, depending on the volume of his playing time. It's a very difficult transition from the Eredevisie to the Prem. As for Nkoudou, signing Sissoko takes the pressure off him a bit, as Sissoko can play right wing forward, thereby allowing Nkoudou to settle in the country and learn in cup matches.

I think if we had just tweaked things a bit and brought in Batshuayi instead of Janssen and Boufal over Nkoudou, we'd genuinely have had a chance to win the title outright, and would've had our strongest squad in history. Now, our title chances are still there, but it'll take perfect health and career seasons from a few players (not impossible). We can't always get what we want though, and what we have is better than not having Sissoko and having sold Son to Wolfsburg with no replacement.

In the end, Poch earned the club CL with his molding of the squad and with that comes 30 million pounds. He deserves the right to spend that any way he wants (and I'm glad it wasn't on Zaha!).

and if we had signed Batshuayi instead of Janssen and Boufal over Nkoudou, we would of spent 21m more + more wages each week, on 2 players that could easily get injured the same as anyone else and finish 5th in the league, and as i have mentioned before we might of had disruption in the dressing room, ruining the harmony of last season as Boufal has the tendency to get the hump.

Lighty64 · Sep 8, 2016

DanielCHillier said:
That article cites Liverpool failing to capitalise when they got CL football a few years ago, but fails to mention that they sold Suarez, the very player who dragged them to that second place finish. We haven't sold a single player who was part of our first team. Also, not bothered by the quotes about Arsenal, for any young football player, you always follow the club that your idol plays for.

plus he still celebrated when he scored against them the season before last

Chris Flynn · Sep 8, 2016

Gilzeanking said:
Well according to this

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...ttenham-the-anatomy-of-transfer-deadline-day/

Prior to the Euros Ashley priced the player at 22 mill .

Yeah but he's going to have to start paying minimum wage now so needs to make up the shortfall

Lilbaz · Sep 8, 2016

michaelden said:
it's 23 any of them, even lloris, vorm & lopez as gk, , cdm & st ... i have seen the future! We're unbeatable with our new formation - 3-7-4-7-2

You'd drop lamela?!

Blake Griffin · Sep 8, 2016

Pellshek said:
It's pretty clear that the game-changing impact of the new TV deal has passed a lot of people by.

Clubs now have 50% more TV money than they did before. Compare that increase to the inflation in transfer fees, and you'll see that the two match almost perfectly.

Sissoko is the perfect example. He's a £20m player, whose value has risen 50% along with the TV deal, thus making him a £30m player.

We sold Chadli for £13m. Pre-deal, he's a £9m player. Add 50%, and you get the £13m.

Pogba is a £60m player - bench-marking it off the fees for the likes of Bale, Ronaldo, Higuain etc. - who's now been bumped up 50% to £90m.

Try this with any player moving to or within England this window, and suddenly a whole bunch of huge transfer fees start to make a lot more sense.

so what makes sissoko a 20m/30m player when chadli's only a 9m/13m player?

Tottenham_God · Sep 8, 2016

Blake Griffin said:
so what makes sissoko a 20m/30m player when chadli's only a 9m/13m player?

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