England manager Sam Allardyce for sale

And people wonder why levy distances our managers from the actual financial negotiations of transfer deals.

Amo said:

Dozens of my colleagues were arrested and attacked today for covering anti-government demonstrations. They were accused of muck-slinging and shit-stiring.

Four people I know have been killed in the last six years for uncovering corruption and criticising the government or politicians. They were excused of shit-stiring too.

The free press do you and every citizen of the Earth an invaluable service. Muck-raking is a vital part of that service, and is, in fact, a journalistic term.

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Was hacking Milly Dowlers phone a vital public service? Or faking photos of British service men torturing Iraqi prisoners? Or hounding celebrities every waking moment chasing the next scoop?

Nah mate.

I'm sure journalists like to think they are all white knights riding noble steeds protecting the public from nasty influences. But you're really not. You're all people with an agenda just like everyone else. Don't get me wrong I'm sure there are a few good apples there abouts who do some good work, but it's a tainted profession and it needs to go a very very long way before it will ever earn my trust again.

Archibald&Crooks said:

Wouldn't it be nice if Pulis was involved.......

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Johnny J said:

I bet at least one (other) "old-school" English manager gets found out.

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http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/...-middle-of-chairman-manager-transfer-standoff

tommyt said:

http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/...-middle-of-chairman-manager-transfer-standoff

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Berahino?

Lilbaz said:

Berahino?

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I think so.


"The chairman knows what is happening. He knows what his manager is doing. He knows that if he gives in and sells the player, then the manager will spend the money.

That’s not an inherently bad thing. His problem is that he knows where that money is going.

He knows that if the manager is given the money, he will only buy players that are brought to the club through his agent and, in the process, he will pocket a wacking great windfall through cuts of the transfer fee that he’ll split with his agent.

The chairman knows this and is digging his heels in..."


Read more at http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/...anager-transfer-standoff/#Y0Y7Xblwwd3j9L2B.99

me personally I think Big Sam was foolish the moment they mentioned 3rd party shit I would have been out of there. In defence of the press they would not needed to investigate if there was no story there. Someone has dropped Sam in it which in turn led to the sting....no smoke without fire as they say. Press doing there job and Big Sam getting greedy. Now you have a guy in charge who the FA didn't think was good enough first time around.....wow recipe for disaster.

Would anyone seriously want the England job?

I might pop in an application...

Big Sam's interview today, he suggests he took the meeting as a favour to his agent, who I assume would have seen a fair part of the 400k,

Just poor judgement and surrounding oneself with poor people.

danielneeds said:

Big Sam's interview today, he suggests he took the meeting as a favour to his agent, who I assume would have seen a fair part of the 400k,

Just poor judgement and surrounding oneself with poor people.

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Smells of bullshit to me, he would've known exactly what this meeting was about, and anyone who believes this 'favour to a friend' guff is being extremely naive IMO.
I'm fully expecting more shit to come his way as I expect him to be one of the 8 managers involved in taking bungs.
I'm guessing here, but I'd imagine the FA already have been told this by the Telegraph, and got shot as quickly as possible.

A couple of different journos were saying after yesterday's 'sting' that although he was in the wrong, what he'd done didn't warrant sacking, and to an extent I kinda agree with that.....but the speed of his exit leads me to believe the shit hasn't really hit the fan....yet.

Isn't Falcao owned by 3rd parties? Chelsea and Man United seem to have got around that alright.

Gb160 said:

Smells of bullshit to me, he would've known exactly what this meeting was about, and anyone who believes this 'favour to a friend' guff is being extremely naive IMO.
I'm fully expecting more shit to come his way as I expect him to be one of the 8 managers involved in taking bungs.
I'm guessing here, but I'd imagine the FA already have been told this by the Telegraph, and got shot as quickly as possible.

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The thing is of course he was involved in all this sort of stuff in the past, it's a given. I'm pretty sure he would have given it all a wide berth once he got the England job too, if he had the right sort of agent advising him.

It's like the con just out of prison, if he's surrounded by other cons he'll go straight back into it. If he breaks free of them he has half a chance.

danielneeds said:

The thing is of course he was involved in all this sort of stuff in the past, it's a given. I'm pretty sure he would have given it all a wide berth once he got the England job too, if he had the right sort of agent advising him.

It's like the con just out of prison, if he's surrounded by other cons he'll go straight back into it. If he breaks free of them he has half a chance.

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The investigation has been going on for ten months....long before he got the England gig.
So he might've cut all involvement but that doesn't mean he hasn't got skeletons in the closet from his time at Sunderland and before.
Weren't they pretty busy in the January transfer window?

http://www.sportinglife.com/footbal...ry-hurt-and-extremely-sorry-over-england-exit

Allardyce left his role as England boss on Tuesday evening after agreeing with the FA that comments he made to undercover Daily Telegraph reporters had left his position "untenable".

The 61-year-old told media assembled outside his Bolton home: "Obviously I have to do this before I go away. On reflection it was a silly thing to do.

"I was trying to help someone out I knew for 30 years and unfortunately it was an error in judgement on my behalf.

"Entrapment has won on this occasion."

The 61-year-old was appointed to the position only 67 days ago and departs by mutual agreement with just one match on his record, September's World Cup qualifying win in Slovakia.

In addition to discussing how to circumvent rules regarding player transfers, video footage also appeared to show Allardyce mocking predecessor Roy Hodgson, calling Prince Harry "a very naughty boy" and accusing the FA of being "all about making money".

The Telegraph also revealed that Allardyce negotiated in principle a deal to travel to the Far East as a paid ambassador for the fictitious businessmen.

Speaking to Sky Sports News HQ on Wednesday, however, Allardyce denied money was his primary motivating factor in attending the meeting, instead insisting he did so as a favour to an old friend who was down on his luck.

Allardyce has known Scott McGarvey "for 20 or 30 years" and "he was trying to help him out".

The former Sunderland boss admitted he is extremely down following his exit and said he now plans to leave the UK this morning for a break to reflect on what has happened.

He revealed he has apologised to the FA for the embarrassment the incident has caused and wished caretaker manager Gareth Southgate - who will manage England for the next four games - the best of luck moving forward.

"The agreement was done very amicably, I apologised to the FA and to all concerned for the unfortunate situation that I put myself in," Allardyce said.

"I have a confidentially agreement, I can't answer any more questions just now. I'm going on holiday to reflect.

"I would like to wish Gareth and all the rest of the England lads the very best."

Allardyce also confirmed to Sky Sports News HQ he has no intention of quitting football and hopes to get back into management quickly.

Gb160 said:

Smells of bullshit to me, he would've known exactly what this meeting was about, and anyone who believes this 'favour to a friend' guff is being extremely naive IMO.
I'm fully expecting more shit to come his way as I expect him to be one of the 8 managers involved in taking bungs.
I'm guessing here, but I'd imagine the FA already have been told this by the Telegraph, and got shot as quickly as possible.

A couple of different journos were saying after yesterday's 'sting' that although he was in the wrong, what he'd done didn't warrant sacking, and to an extent I kinda agree with that.....but the speed of his exit leads me to believe the shit hasn't really hit the fan....yet.

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That might be a guess by you, but I'd say it's a reasonable one, rather than a complete shot in the dark. As you suggest, there's probably a lot more bad news to come.

Sorry, but I'm not buying Allardyce's "entrapment won on this occasion" spiel. If he hadn't been corrupt and so greedy, the whole episode wouldn't have happened, and he'd still have his 'dream job'.

WorcesterTHFC said:

Sorry, but I'm not buying Allardyce's "entrapment won on this occasion" spiel. If he hadn't been corrupt and so greedy, the whole episode wouldn't have happened, and he'd still have his 'dream job'.

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Exactly. Are those "to catch a predator" shows entrapment? No, they're dirty deviant sods getting caught trying to act out being dirty deviants. Sam you got caught trying to be a greedy corrupt sod. No sympathy whatsoever.
It's not like he was "oh....erm......well......maybe there could be something done" He was giving it Billy big bollocks "Yeah sure, don't worry about that, not a problem". Dickhead

Seller.

Sold.

It was entrapment, pure and simple. Sam was a straight-dealing law-abiding saint before he agreed to that meeting. You do know that to prepare himself for the meeting he had to google 'shady deals' because up until that point he knew nothing about getting around the 3rd party ownership rules?