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Shadydan

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Im looking at the Palace team and cant believe they cant turn things around and Hull have been really good in the past few weeks

If Palace turn it around its Boro and Leicester going down for me

They aren't in trouble really as the reason they are in "crisis", is because the manager did too well and now they are back to where they belong

They're in deep shit, haven't scored a goal since NYE, worst form in the league coupled with the fact that Swansea and Hull are starting to pick up unexpected points.
 

jonathanhotspur

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Jun 28, 2009
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They are in shit but it's the same exact situation they have always been in previously and where they would have expected to be if last year hadn't happened.
People are sad because he won them the league title that they never thought they'd do and their shit players have got him sacked because of their delusional ego's
There has to be more to it than complacency on the part of the players. They have enough quality to be mid-table; when motivated. Ranieri's had to rotate this season because of European commitments and, by all accounts, he has taken to it like an alcoholic in a free bar. And his tactics have been the subject of much comment this season-as in, they've been rubbish and/or mystifying. Whenever I've seen Leicester this season (apart from against us, FFS), they have not really been trying.

The Leicester owner probably never saw a football in his life-not until he bought Leicester. I don't like these guys coming in from the Far East, the Middle East and the US and buying up clubs and because it's just business to them, in my opinion. And or/vanity. So the owner's investment is in real danger of taking a massive kick in the bollocks right now. If they go down, when will they be back up, if ever?
 

ExpatFan

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There has to be more to it than complacency on the part of the players. They have enough quality to be mid-table; when motivated. Ranieri's had to rotate this season because of European commitments and, by all accounts, he has taken to it like an alcoholic in a free bar. And his tactics have been the subject of much comment this season-as in, they've been rubbish and/or mystifying. Whenever I've seen Leicester this season (apart from against us, FFS), they have not really been trying.

The Leicester owner probably never saw a football in his life-not until he bought Leicester. I don't like these guys coming in from the Far East, the Middle East and the US and buying up clubs and because it's just business to them, in my opinion. And or/vanity. So the owner's investment is in real danger of taking a massive kick in the bollocks right now. If they go down, when will they be back up, if ever?
And if only for that reason - and now that Ranieri has gone - I'm hoping Leics go down.
 

Lufti

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Im looking at the Palace team and cant believe they cant turn things around and Hull have been really good in the past few weeks

If Palace turn it around its Boro and Leicester going down for me

They aren't in trouble really as the reason they are in "crisis", is because the manager did too well and now they are back to where they belong

That said, they did spend a lot in the summer and as a result they might expect more in return
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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There has to be more to it than complacency on the part of the players. They have enough quality to be mid-table; when motivated. Ranieri's had to rotate this season because of European commitments and, by all accounts, he has taken to it like an alcoholic in a free bar. And his tactics have been the subject of much comment this season-as in, they've been rubbish and/or mystifying. Whenever I've seen Leicester this season (apart from against us, FFS), they have not really been trying.

The Leicester owner probably never saw a football in his life-not until he bought Leicester. I don't like these guys coming in from the Far East, the Middle East and the US and buying up clubs and because it's just business to them, in my opinion. And or/vanity. So the owner's investment is in real danger of taking a massive kick in the bollocks right now. If they go down, when will they be back up, if ever?
I agree with all that but I'd just give him the rest of the season anyway. They started their winning streak under Pearson in April and were dead last in the league from the end of November to the middle of April but stuck by him, even while he was getting into off field trouble to boot
 

jonathanhotspur

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I agree with all that but I'd just give him the rest of the season anyway. They started their winning streak under Pearson in April and were dead last in the league from the end of November to the middle of April but stuck by him, even while he was getting into off field trouble to boot
Maybe Pearson had not lost the dressing room?
 

nedley

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Jul 28, 2006
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Anybody see Kasper's interview on SkySports?

Looked rattled. Sounded like a guilty man IMO.
 

SUIYHA

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Ranieri took over at Leicester in the summer. Let's say we ignore last season and the raised expectations it brought and we judge him based purely on where Leicester were before he took over. They came 14th in 2015. So imagine if they came 14th last year and he started last summer and the season was going the way it is now. I think most clubs would sack him. They've been awful this year and have been getting worse and worse as the season has gone on. Is sentiment from the past a reason to jeopardise the present and the future? I don't think it is.

Not only that, but my surprise with Leicester winning the league last year wasn't just because a club of their size had won it, but also that it had been Ranieri who guided them to it. In the eleven years between leaving Chelsea and joining Leicester, he'd managed seven different teams, four of which he didn't even last a full season. Despite managing big clubs like Juventus, Inter Milan, Roma, Valencia (when they were reigning champions) and Chelsea when they first got their oil money, he had absolutely fuck all to show for it bar a Copa Italia and a Copa Del Rey that were both won in the 90s. His appointment at Leicester was met with scepticism by many, myself included, because the guy has quite a long track record of failing to deliver and getting fired. It makes what happened last year all the more remarkable because nothing I'd seen from Ranieri in his 30 odd years of management suggested that he had it in him to do something like that. Nor have I really seen much to suggest he has it in him to stop the slide and turn things around. And if he can't turn it around then why keep him and tarnish the legend? Relegation is a very expensive problem to have for a football owner, especially one with a squad that all signed big new contracts recently.

Who knows just what the fuck happened. But I do know that it is two different types of management to keep a buzz going when a team is playing well, versus turning things around and picking up demoralised players that are in a rut. The latter is not the time to start talking about giving the players pizza if they win and "dilly ding dilly dong". The sacking makes sense to me, the only thing that doesn't is the timing. Fair enough if they'd done it after the Swansea defeat, or if they'd been thrashed by Sevilla, but the tie is finely poised and that second half performance signalled that maybe things were about to recover. As it stands, I guess Ranieri can talk away with his reputation intact, his only full season was a title winning one, he got out of their Champions League group, they were still in Europe when he left and he wasn't relegated.
 

yankspurs

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Anybody see Kasper's interview on SkySports?

Looked rattled. Sounded like a guilty man IMO.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, its a duck.

Kasper and that schmuck who looks like the grandfather from Hey Arnold. Guilty. As. Fuck.
 

Pellshek

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I believe the Leicester players' denials about knifing Ranieri. Footballers are stupid, and telling complex, coordinated lies involving multiple individuals is difficult. I don't think the likes of Vardy & Co. are capable of it.
 

Led's Zeppelin

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May 28, 2013
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I believe the Leicester players' denials about knifing Ranieri. Footballers are stupid, and telling complex, coordinated lies involving multiple individuals is difficult. I don't think the likes of Vardy & Co. are capable of it.

I'm not sure "I never done it" is that complex, even for a soccerballer.
 

jurgen

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Ranieri took over at Leicester in the summer. Let's say we ignore last season and the raised expectations it brought and we judge him based purely on where Leicester were before he took over. They came 14th in 2015. So imagine if they came 14th last year and he started last summer and the season was going the way it is now. I think most clubs would sack him. They've been awful this year and have been getting worse and worse as the season has gone on. Is sentiment from the past a reason to jeopardise the present and the future? I don't think it is.

Not only that, but my surprise with Leicester winning the league last year wasn't just because a club of their size had won it, but also that it had been Ranieri who guided them to it. In the eleven years between leaving Chelsea and joining Leicester, he'd managed seven different teams, four of which he didn't even last a full season. Despite managing big clubs like Juventus, Inter Milan, Roma, Valencia (when they were reigning champions) and Chelsea when they first got their oil money, he had absolutely fuck all to show for it bar a Copa Italia and a Copa Del Rey that were both won in the 90s. His appointment at Leicester was met with scepticism by many, myself included, because the guy has quite a long track record of failing to deliver and getting fired. It makes what happened last year all the more remarkable because nothing I'd seen from Ranieri in his 30 odd years of management suggested that he had it in him to do something like that. Nor have I really seen much to suggest he has it in him to stop the slide and turn things around. And if he can't turn it around then why keep him and tarnish the legend? Relegation is a very expensive problem to have for a football owner, especially one with a squad that all signed big new contracts recently.

Who knows just what the fuck happened. But I do know that it is two different types of management to keep a buzz going when a team is playing well, versus turning things around and picking up demoralised players that are in a rut. The latter is not the time to start talking about giving the players pizza if they win and "dilly ding dilly dong". The sacking makes sense to me, the only thing that doesn't is the timing. Fair enough if they'd done it after the Swansea defeat, or if they'd been thrashed by Sevilla, but the tie is finely poised and that second half performance signalled that maybe things were about to recover. As it stands, I guess Ranieri can talk away with his reputation intact, his only full season was a title winning one, he got out of their Champions League group, they were still in Europe when he left and he wasn't relegated.

All that argument based on the premise you've invented that what if he came 14th last year and how he'd be judged if that were the case. Except he won the title. Which renders all of the above a bit silly really. He should have a job for life there. But amusing to see them flop back down the ladder regardless.

And their CL run has been pretty good under him, who were the last minnows to go so far, Ludogrets?
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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All that argument based on the premise you've invented that what if he came 14th last year and how he'd be judged if that were the case. Except he won the title. Which renders all of the above a bit silly really. He should have a job for life there. But amusing to see them flop back down the ladder regardless.

And their CL run has been pretty good under him, who were the last minnows to go so far, Ludogrets?
And when they came 14th they had been 20th for 4 months at this point
 

SUIYHA

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All that argument based on the premise you've invented that what if he came 14th last year and how he'd be judged if that were the case. Except he won the title. Which renders all of the above a bit silly really. He should have a job for life there. But amusing to see them flop back down the ladder regardless.

And their CL run has been pretty good under him, who were the last minnows to go so far, Ludogrets?

And when they came 14th they had been 20th for 4 months at this point

No. My scenario is not if HE came 14th last year, it's if the team came 14th last year and this was his first season. I think most clubs would sack him in this position. The only reason people want to keep him is because of sentimentality and there's no room for that in business, if you were the best navigator in the world back in the day but you are clearly driving the ship straight towards an iceberg, somebody will stop you.

As I said before, the difference between this year and 2015 is that Vardy, Mahrez, Drinkwater, Schmeichel and co have all signed big new contracts - believe some are even as high as £100k. They absolutely cannot afford to get relegated. Even if they were smart and brought in paycut clauses, their squad will be ripped to pieces if they go down and they will struggle to come back up IMO. Relegation is expensive.

The European run has been good though so the timing of the sacking does surprise me. Maybe they'll bring in Di Matteo and he'll turn the second leg around like he did after AVB lost to Napoli.
 
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