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Thomas Lemar
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"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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He's French, Arsenal is the default club for average Frenchmen, none of the top ones go there though.
KILLA_SIN
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Ghost Hardware
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To be fair, Alexis went up a level after moving from Barca where he was undervalued. He was never considered world class until he moved to Arsenal. Arsenal will be making a huge statement with their first two signings if they come to pass. If they bring in a few more of that caliber then they certainly won't be the same team they were last year.
KILLA_SIN
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TBH I was actually going to mention Alexis in that post, that he is the odd one out, and that's down to him training himself but almost every other player they have signed has stagnated. We will have to see how good lemars attitude is. But I never believed for a minute we woUld sign him so it doesn't bother me at all
Shadydan
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Completey agree with this, apart from Sanchez who is extremely talented and a driven individual not many players push on at Arsenal. Ox, Ramsey, Bellerin, Ozil, Coquelin, Gabriel, Walcott, Gibbs should at least pushed onto some sort of consistent level but there's a common trend there, most of them haven't fulfilled their potential and stagnated or gone backwards if anything.
I don`t know why we don`t pay for quality and just often waste money on poor signings..... wasted close to £50 million last summer!! I bet Levy doesn`t buy second best for his house... why do it for our players?
Lighty64
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to be fair they are paying 1 or 2 players more, but the rest of their squad doesn't compare otherwise their wage bills would be more than ours
with Lemar, he has most probably been offered more wages with the scum, and with Sanchez more likely to leave, and Cazola most probably finished, he is more likely going to start for them quite regular, where as with us he has more competition.
@Shadydan to be honest I watch a hell of a lot of PL football mainly due to playing a fair amount of Fantasy Football (not saying you don't, but many just watch Spurs). Demarai Gray looks quite nimble and fast, but so many times gets knocked off the ball so easy, very inconsistent, and his 2 bad points are tracking back, and leaving it too late to get involved. he also wants away from Leicester for game time, and he isn't good enough if our 1st team are fit.
Shadydan
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Because I'm sure Daniel Levy is able to comfortably afford his repayments on his mortgage whatever the price
I keep saying it's too early to write off Nkoudou and Janssen yet so saying that we wasted the money on them is a bit premature, I agree with you about Sissoko however we've been getting a lot more right than wrong, why don't you focus on the successfull transfers if you really want to scrutinise our transfer policy?
Shadydan
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Who is actually good enough for our first team?
Gray can be moulded and if Poch likes him then he clearly sees something in him.
Lighty64
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Who is actually good enough for our first team?
Gray can be moulded and if Poch likes him then he clearly sees something in him.
well our front 4 didn't really let us down last season did they.
he might be able to be molded, but I also feel he needs to be able to fend players off, and not being funny but he gets knocked off the ball too easy in my eyes (my onions)
Lighty64
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if Levy did it your way, we wouldn't be able to consider the NPD, and would of broke the FFP rules.
quality = wages, wages that teams like Arsenal, Liverpool can pay above us, or Chelsea and both Manc clubs double.
for us to go buy quality that might want £150k a week, do you honestly believe the other 20 squad members will not want some form of parity? and what happens once the unrest with them has set in, you then get a squad of unhappy players, or a wage bill that's double just to get 1 player that might not even settle, or get injured.
we need to strengthen our squad, we need to be able to name an 18 man team on a match day with 4 players on the bench that will worry the opposing team if we have to use 3 of them, and we need to get lucky like every team that wins trophies, and not suffer injuries. yes I know Man U won 2 trophies last season with a lot of injuries, but in case you didn't know it they are the richest club in the world
KILLA_SIN
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We don't have the revenues to just buy ready made players, in most cases the bigger clubs buy ready made and pay top prices and top wages and sell on for losses rather than any profit, but they have the revenues for that not to affect them. We buy undervalued players or take gambles on players before they become big players. That way we can grow the value of the player to sell for profit and we wont pay the same wages but we lower the risk of loss. Our model is still very much to prevent losses which we cant afford. It's probably more boring because we don't get the top players.
Snarfalicious
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It always felt like a big longshot. But, the concerning thing is the lack of links to other players that will realistically improve our attacking depth. Granted, it's still incredibly early (especially for us), and most of the shit in the papers is blatant guesswork.
Perhaps they were not offered them !!
We are not the richest which is why we should be expanding the Dele and Bale model as much as possible because once top players reach 21/22 we can`t afford them
Shadydan
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In one post you complain about us going for the likes of Nkoudou, Njie and Jannsen and now you say we should continue with the model of buying young players before they turn into stars, make up your mind.
Sweech
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Quick! Lets abandon what got us here and get in a queue for a pool of players that we'll be second best for every time.
If they're quality players then it means every one of Juventus, Bayern, Real, Barcelona, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea, Man U, Man City, etc. all either beat us to the player or it means that all those teams thought the player wasn't worth buying. The up and comers is where we can not only work in but excel. Look at the success Atletico, Dortmund, Monaco, etc. have built. You do it through intelligent buys, not fan driven Youtube watching to "make a statement".
Lighty64
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Myself (just my onions) I'd not be shocked to see Poch use the squad we have now on our pre season tour.
Yes there has been mention of us looking to sell Sissoko, and many on here thinking of moving on N'Koudou and Janssen, but unless we do actually manage to sell anyone, then I can see no one arriving.
The strongest murmurs are Walker and Sissoko, possibly Wimmer. Don't see Dier going anywhere this season. So we need to make sure we buy a player to replace the 2 or 3 that might go, and some prospects such as Sessengnon.
As I said earlier I believe we need a stronger 18, but with a team that just finished 3rd then 2nd I'm sure everyone of those main 11-13 players want to play. We all know that if we where to be able to compete on all fronts we could play up to 60 matches, well I know it's totally different these days compared to the 70's & 80's, but successful teams in those days used to play near enough that amount, with much smaller squads, only1 substitute and on a lot shitter pitches. Some of you might of seen my post last week about cabbing Pat Jennings, and he told me a true professional wants to play every single game.
Now days a lot of players want to do the same but with the pressures so high to win now days managers have to rotate, and at the same time keep everyone happy. By the sounds of things at the moment the squad as a whole are very happy and want to play for Poch, but due to our wage structure that's not going to change at the earliest till our second season, we need to find players that can strengthen the squad, be happy to train, and rotate the way Poch wants, and accept we don't pay the highest wages.
The players we need to find are the ones that can see the progress we have made, and be part of a pretty happy family.
Yes there has been mention of us looking to sell Sissoko, and many on here thinking of moving on N'Koudou and Janssen, but unless we do actually manage to sell anyone, then I can see no one arriving.
The strongest murmurs are Walker and Sissoko, possibly Wimmer. Don't see Dier going anywhere this season. So we need to make sure we buy a player to replace the 2 or 3 that might go, and some prospects such as Sessengnon.
As I said earlier I believe we need a stronger 18, but with a team that just finished 3rd then 2nd I'm sure everyone of those main 11-13 players want to play. We all know that if we where to be able to compete on all fronts we could play up to 60 matches, well I know it's totally different these days compared to the 70's & 80's, but successful teams in those days used to play near enough that amount, with much smaller squads, only1 substitute and on a lot shitter pitches. Some of you might of seen my post last week about cabbing Pat Jennings, and he told me a true professional wants to play every single game.
Now days a lot of players want to do the same but with the pressures so high to win now days managers have to rotate, and at the same time keep everyone happy. By the sounds of things at the moment the squad as a whole are very happy and want to play for Poch, but due to our wage structure that's not going to change at the earliest till our second season, we need to find players that can strengthen the squad, be happy to train, and rotate the way Poch wants, and accept we don't pay the highest wages.
The players we need to find are the ones that can see the progress we have made, and be part of a pretty happy family.
not_tenth-again
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Excuse me Mr Ghost Hardware, could you please explain why there is piss in my corn flakes?
Depressing.....
