The Spurs Transfer Wishlist & Scouting Thread

wrd · Mar 1, 2019

JonnySpurs said:
A lot of fans are mentioning Zaha but I'm just not convinced that he even wants to leave Palace for a bigger club.

I'm not sure if the failed move to Utd has put the fear in him and he's just happy being the main man at Palace but he signed a new deal and everything he's said in the past suggests he's happy where he is.

I'd love for us to add him, he'd be a brilliant addition but he'd cost an awful lot of money and he's not really what we need unless we're selling Lucas.

We need to focus on our full backs and centre mid, both defensive and attacking, particularly if Eriksen leaves.

Simply enough I'd like to retain Rose but swap Davies for a new LB. Preferably Chilwell.

We need to sell either one or both of our RB's and sign Wan Bissaka or Matt Doherty. Palace would never sell us both AWB and Zaha so if I'm picking one then it's definitely AWB. Gun to my head then I'd keep Aurier over Trippier. The latter is older and just not good enough. Aurier has calmed down this season and his crossing has improved.

We need one CDM. Preferably Berge.

We need at least CM. Preferably Rabiot.

We need one CAM. Any of Brooks, Fornals or Havertz would be great. Brooks if Eriksen stays.

That's 5 players in and is not beyond the realms of possibility IMO, particularly as we will be selling some players.

I'd personally like us to add a young HG keeper as well.

Great post, I think the fb's will be the most difficult price wise but I'd take all your picks. I haven't seen much of Fornals though. Depending on money we get I (unrealistically) would love a Havertz/Brandt double deal.

danielneeds · Mar 1, 2019

JonnySpurs said:
A lot of fans are mentioning Zaha but I'm just not convinced that he even wants to leave Palace for a bigger club.

I'm not sure if the failed move to Utd has put the fear in him and he's just happy being the main man at Palace but he signed a new deal and everything he's said in the past suggests he's happy where he is.

I'd love for us to add him, he'd be a brilliant addition but he'd cost an awful lot of money and he's not really what we need unless we're selling Lucas.

We need to focus on our full backs and centre mid, both defensive and attacking, particularly if Eriksen leaves.

Simply enough I'd like to retain Rose but swap Davies for a new LB. Preferably Chilwell.

We need to sell either one or both of our RB's and sign Wan Bissaka or Matt Doherty. Palace would never sell us both AWB and Zaha so if I'm picking one then it's definitely AWB. Gun to my head then I'd keep Aurier over Trippier. The latter is older and just not good enough. Aurier has calmed down this season and his crossing has improved.

We need one CDM. Preferably Berge.

We need at least CM. Preferably Rabiot.

We need one CAM. Any of Brooks, Fornals or Havertz would be great. Brooks if Eriksen stays.

That's 5 players in and is not beyond the realms of possibility IMO, particularly as we will be selling some players.

I'd personally like us to add a young HG keeper as well.

Chilwell is not realistic. For one, Rodgers will see him stay there for a while, and if he did move most likely it’ll be to City. Same goes for Wan-Bissaka. If he moves there’ll be richer predators hunting him than us.

rabbikeane · Mar 1, 2019

Think Rodgers wouldn't mind selling Chilwell and replace him with Tierney for half the price. Will be expensive though, both Chil and Wan-Bissaka are likely to be £50m transfers.

pedrodelawasp · Mar 1, 2019

I mentioned Tierney on another Spurs forum last summer. Quite often got derided, with variations of 'Liverpool already have Scotland's best LB, har har' - glad to see this is not the prevailing style of post on here!

Tierney, I believe, could develop in to one of the very best LB/LWBs in the PL if he goes to the right team and I also believe that Spurs would be an ideal destination for him. He would be ideally suited to the variations on systems and formations Poch likes to play. He's quick, far stronger than his frame might suggest, he can run all day, loves to get forward and is adept at the back. Playing alongside someone like Vertonghen I really think you'd see him blossom. He can also be relied upon to deputise on the left side of a back three or over at RB. He would be a brilliant signing.

Trees · Mar 1, 2019

This forum pisses me off with wishlists for this and wishlists for that. Its just not realistic. Take our right backs:

Who is going to pay A) £25m + for either of them, and B) their £65-70K wages ?

A lower level Premier league club (most of which have cottoned on to Spurs 'bargains', or a half decent Italian / German team at a level below Juventus / Bayern, who want the deals to be subsidised.

I am afraid we are stuck with the likes Trippier, Aurier, Moura for the foreseeable. All good, decent players, arguably at our level, but not good enough to win the league ?

Trix · Mar 1, 2019

rabbikeane said:
Think Rodgers wouldn't mind selling Chilwell and replace him with Tierney for half the price. Will be expensive though, both Chil and Wan-Bissaka are likely to be £50m transfers.

Wan Bissaka looks a very good defender. Still big question marks over how well he'll do when asked to go forward a lot more when he moves to a better team.

raymundo-iow · Mar 1, 2019

When are we at our best? .... When we let teams come on to us and attack at full speed. That is where we have played our best football and the style liverpool have took with they're speedy wing players that attack at 100mph.

We are currently missing width to stretch teams which allows the opposition to get set and men behind the ball. Pepe from Lille has the look of Sadio Mane's unpredictably and would be a great shout.

Son out on the left, pepe on the right, kane through the middle with dele making his late runs in to the box from just behind him ala Van der Vaart.

Leave the defenders to defend and create width with attackers leaving space for dele and kane in the middle

Flobadob · Mar 1, 2019

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
Brandt's been played central this year, a little behind the attacking players to great effect. If we lose Christian he'd definitely be at the top of my list to replace him with. Great quality, diverse and has a £22m release clause this summer apparently.

Havertz reminds me of Dele a lot I struggle to see how we could play both or get a huge amount out of them that justifies the whopping fee he'd command. We have pretty much broke even in our transfer dealings over the recent years so I see Brandt as a really good and achievable option.

Dier isn't as bad as people make out. His ability to play in defence really helps us during in game switches and his aerial ability makes our set piece fragility a lot better. When we haven't been making stupid individual mistakes this season like we did vs Arsenal, Man U & the Chelsea game the other night a lot of our goals conceded have come from set pieces. Diers versatility gives the team far greater strength in iffy areas for us so I'm alright sticking with him so long as we get genuine width added to our full back departments.

We either need a new midfield or full backs that bomb on and go at them like Rose does. A holding midfielder with no zip on the wings leaves us too lethargic in attack

You make good points mate fair play. In that case then Brandt should be top of our list as you say as he’s very attainable at that price and we would likely be an ideal step up for him.

The thought of a midfield 4 of Winks, Alli, N’dombele and Eriksen makes me wet though tbh. I always love to see technically gifted players in the middle personally and I think all 4 of them graft enough and get stuck in (Eriksen in his own way of course) to make it a well balanced midfield.

Wan-Bissaka will be a tough one to do but if not we still must aim to upgrade at RB. It’s become such a huge issue for us this season something needs to be done. If not Wan-Bissaka then we need to spend big on someone else in that class

Spurrific · Mar 1, 2019

Trees said:
This forum pisses me off with wishlists for this and wishlists for that. Its just not realistic. Take our right backs:

Who is going to pay A) £25m + for either of them, and B) their £65-70K wages ?

A lower level Premier league club (most of which have cottoned on to Spurs 'bargains', or a half decent Italian / German team at a level below Juventus / Bayern, who want the deals to be subsidised.

I am afraid we are stuck with the likes Trippier, Aurier, Moura for the foreseeable. All good, decent players, arguably at our level, but not good enough to win the league ?

Maybe don’t read the threads then, pal. Look after the ol’ blood pressure.

dtxspurs · Mar 1, 2019

Trees said:
This forum pisses me off with wishlists for this and wishlists for that. Its just not realistic. Take our right backs:

Who is going to pay A) £25m + for either of them, and B) their £65-70K wages ?

A lower level Premier league club (most of which have cottoned on to Spurs 'bargains', or a half decent Italian / German team at a level below Juventus / Bayern, who want the deals to be subsidised.

I am afraid we are stuck with the likes Trippier, Aurier, Moura for the foreseeable. All good, decent players, arguably at our level, but not good enough to win the league ?

As long as we have realistic valuations for what we will sell them for, it shouldn't be an issue. My guess based on our luck of offloading Janssen, Nkoudou, Sissoko, etc. is that we won't.

Cochraam · Mar 1, 2019

Many on here are putting Aaron Wan-Bissaka at the top of their RB lists, but who are the top alternatives if he is too expensive or otherwise unobtainable? Are there more senior RBs that could be available (like potentially Meunier) to pair with KWP as understudy? I struggle to think of RBs that really stand out to me. Ultimately, while I love to daydream of improving RB, I think we'll sell Aurier and keep KWP and Trippier and this will continue to be a glaring position of need.

Also, what happened with Jean Michel Seri at Fulham? I know some were excited about him when he moved, but I haven't paid any attention to Fulham. Has he looked ok? Potential target if they go down?

rabbikeane · Mar 1, 2019

Cochraam said:
Also, what happened with Jean Michel Seri at Fulham? I know some were excited about him when he moved, but I haven't paid any attention to Fulham. Has he looked ok? Potential target if they go down?

He's been terrible, also have a physical issue that leaves him with pain in his feet in cold weather. Need a Brexit

double0 · Mar 1, 2019

Cochraam said:
Many on here are putting Aaron Wan-Bissaka at the top of their RB lists, but who are the top alternatives if he is too expensive or otherwise unobtainable? Are there more senior RBs that could be available (like potentially Meunier) to pair with KWP as understudy? I struggle to think of RBs that really stand out to me. Ultimately, while I love to daydream of improving RB, I think we'll sell Aurier and keep KWP and Trippier and this will continue to be a glaring position of need.

Also, what happened with Jean Michel Seri at Fulham? I know some were excited about him when he moved, but I haven't paid any attention to Fulham. Has he looked ok? Potential target if they go down?

We're going to have to bite the bullet but certainly not on JM Seri. The Norwich left and right backs might an avenue, KWP must be considered definitely ahead of Aurier and Trippier and I'd like to think Poch will give him the shirt tbh It wouldn't surprise me if he turned out better than A Wan-Bissaka. I hold the view our wingbacks are a vital area we must address come the next transfer window both left and right.

Spursh · Mar 1, 2019

Cochraam said:
Many on here are putting Aaron Wan-Bissaka at the top of their RB lists, but who are the top alternatives if he is too expensive or otherwise unobtainable? Are there more senior RBs that could be available (like potentially Meunier) to pair with KWP as understudy? I struggle to think of RBs that really stand out to me. Ultimately, while I love to daydream of improving RB, I think we'll sell Aurier and keep KWP and Trippier and this will continue to be a glaring position of need.

Meunier looked really good a few years back, but in recent seasons he has looked defensively suspect, and due to his size (6'3), he lacks some of the physical dynamism needed in our system at fullback. Technically he's a classy player though.

Wan-Bissaka will cost a pretty penny, but he looks the real deal. Alternatives include Max Aarons at Norwich, but he will be hard to prize away if his team are promoted. Another is Kevin Mbabu at Young Boys, who was recently voted player of the year in Switzerland; he's absolutely rapid and considered HG after his time at Newcastle. My pick would be Youcef Attal at Nice. Not HG, but he looks to have all the qualities needed of a modern day fullback/wingback: oodles of skill and pace, aggressive defensively and offensively, and incredibly dynamic.

KWP could be great for us, but I do worry that after two seasons now, Poch still doesn't trust him enough to start games regularly. He has the ability, but he still looks physically weak.

Ideally, I'd like us to sign a LB too, someone like Chilwell or Tierney. But in Rose and Davies, we have two capable players in this position for next season.

raymundo-iow · Mar 1, 2019

Spursh said:
Meunier looked really good a few years back, but in recent seasons he has looked defensively suspect, and due to his size (6'3), he lacks some of the physical dynamism needed in our system at fullback. Technically he's a classy player though.

Wan-Bissaka will cost a pretty penny, but he looks the real deal. Alternatives include Max Aarons at Norwich, but he will be hard to prize away if his team are promoted. Another is Kevin Mbabu at Young Boys, who was recently voted player of the year in Switzerland; he's absolutely rapid and considered HG after his time at Newcastle. My pick would be Youcef Attal at Nice. Not HG, but he looks to have all the qualities needed of a modern day fullback/wingback: oodles of skill and pace, aggressive defensively and offensively, and incredibly dynamic.

KWP could be great for us, but I do worry that after two seasons now, Poch still doesn't trust him enough to start games regularly. He has the ability, but he still looks physically weak.

Ideally, I'd like us to sign a LB too, someone like Chilwell or Tierney. But in Rose and Davies, we have two capable players in this position for next season.

I don't believe Davies is attacking enough for us for a LWB position. He is too one dimensional and can not beat a player. If our defenders are going to act as wingers we need an understudy to rose. He changes the way we play when he is playing. Even jan is more attacking than davies and can whip a better ball in. I think poch shares this thought hence why he has started jan at left back in the past

gavspur · Mar 1, 2019

I don’t know the stats on this, but it has always seemed to me that proper wingers create far more chances for their CF. Wing forwards cut in a lot and shoot (being fair, the best ones are very good at it, Son for example). And yet, we don’t play with wingers - certainly not like when we had Lennon and Bale on either wing.

Which makes our FB’s even more important, as they were the ones (Rose and Walker) who we’re stretching the other team, giving us multiple forward options ie cut in and shoot/thread a ball or round the outside and get a cross in.

So if we don’t have/can’t afford to get more top wingers in, then it’s definitely our fullbacks who need to be excellent. And to get all those started with an ace pass, we need an intelligent pass master midfielder (I still miss Carrick :-( ).

We also can’t underestimate the loss of Toby and Eriksen - if they go. The problem being in that we rarely replace an amazing talent, we get lucky a few years after they go and find another one, but that one also needs time to develop.

If we sell Toby and buy de Leigt, fine.
If we sell Eriksen and buy Isco, fine.
I’d love us to, but I very much doubt we would be able to do that.

Spursh · Mar 1, 2019

raymundo-iow said:
I don't believe Davies is attacking enough for us for a LWB position. He is too one dimensional and can not beat a player. If our defenders are going to act as wingers we need an understudy to rose. He changes the way we play when he is playing. Even jan is more attacking than davies and can whip a better ball in. I think poch shares this thought hence why he has started jan at left back in the past

I agree with you, that's why I said that ideally, we need to sign a LB. Davies is a very solid, traditional, fullback. He can actually attack well at times, showing good off the ball movement and is good at cutting the ball back across the box. But he isn't physically dynamic enough, and nor can he beat a man from a standing start. Chilwell is built similarly, but seems to possess that extra yard of speed and is a level above when it comes to skill. From what I've seen of Tierney, he has the power and size to make it in the PL, but he won't be HG.

RichieS · Mar 1, 2019

Anyone expecting major changes to the first 11 is just setting themselves up to be raging upon the close of the summer window. I would not be surprised (or overly disappointed) to see a team and bench as follows on the first day of next season (assuming all are fit):

Lloris

New RB
Sánchez
Vertonghen
Rose

Dier
Winks

New AM
Dele
Son

Kane

Gazzaniga, Walker-Peters, Foyth, Davies, New CM (or Wanyama, if over injury), Sissoko, Lamela

Fuck knows who the new RB would be, you'd hope for someone like Zaha or Brandt as the AM and maybe Berge for the new CM. Who's been "cleared out"? Vorm, Trippier, Aurier, Alderweireld, Lucas, Eriksen, Nkoudou, Llorente, Janssen and maybe Wanyama.

ToDarrenIsToDo · Mar 1, 2019

Nodutus said:
Agreed. The squad should imo look something like this after the summer:

Lloris - Gazzaniga - NEW

KWP - NEW

Alderweireld - Sanchez - Vertonghen - Foyth

Rose - NEW

Winks - Dier - Skipp - NEW - NEW - NEW

Eriksen - Dele - NEW - NEW

Kane - Son - Moura - (Parrott)

Which is 8 new signings and this will obviously not happen. So there's that.

I'd honestly be OK with the following:

Lloris - Gazzaniga - Whiteman

Trippier - Wan-Bissaka - KWP

Sanchez - Vertonghen - Foyth - Andersen

Rose - Davies - Sessegnon

Winks - Dier - Skipp - Berge - Sissoko

Brandt - Dele - Lucas - Lamela - Son - Edwards

Kane - Parrott

Out : Vorm, Aurier, Alderweireld, Waynama, Eriksen, Nkoudou, Janssen & Llorente

5 new signings, all fringe players to the first eleven apart from Wan-Bissaka & Brandt, all given time to bed in and not a lot of disruption to the first XI

Lloris
Wan-Bissaka
Vertonghen
Sanchez
Rose
Dier
Winks
Brandt
Dele
Son
Kane

Backup team with a slow push to integrate into the first XI:

Gazzaniga
Trippier
Foyth
Andersen
Davies
Berge
Sissoko
Lucas
Lamela
Sessegnon
Parrott

Squad members Whiteman, Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers, Skipp, Edwards.

Sessegnon doubles up as a left back and WF prospect, Edwards and CCV possibly go on loan where recall is an option and Parrott won't get a game as Son or Lucas can cover in attack if need be. This allows Parrott another year of development without getting stifled by a new backup striker signing.

5 in, Academy prospects like Whiteman, CCV, KWP, Skipp, Edwards & Parrot one step closer to 1st team opportunities and 8 out. Would see only 1-2 immediate changes to the first XI and would seriously boost our HG quotas without impacting our first team quality

dtxspurs · Mar 1, 2019

ToDarrenIsToDo said:
I'd honestly be OK with the following:

Lloris - Gazzaniga - Whiteman

Trippier - Wan-Bissaka - KWP

Sanchez - Vertonghen - Foyth - Andersen

Rose - Davies - Sessegnon

Winks - Dier - Skipp - Berge - Sissoko

Brandt - Dele - Lucas - Lamela - Son - Edwards

Kane - Parrott

Out : Vorm, Aurier, Alderweireld, Waynama, Eriksen, Nkoudou, Janssen & Llorente

5 new signings, all fringe players to the first eleven apart from Wan-Bissaka & Brandt, all given time to bed in and not a lot of disruption to the first XI

Lloris
Wan-Bissaka
Vertonghen
Sanchez
Rose
Dier
Winks
Brandt
Dele
Son
Kane

Backup team with a slow push to integrate into the first XI:

Gazzaniga
Trippier
Foyth
Andersen
Davies
Berge
Sissoko
Lucas
Lamela
Sessegnon
Parrott

Squad members Whiteman, Walker-Peters, Carter-Vickers, Skipp, Edwards.

Sessegnon doubles up as a left back and WF prospect, Edwards and CCV possibly go on loan where recall is an option and Parrott won't get a game as Son or Lucas can cover in attack if need be. This allows Parrott another year of development without getting stifled by a new backup striker signing.

5 in, Academy prospects like Whiteman, CCV, KWP, Skipp, Edwards & Parrot one step closer to 1st team opportunities and 8 out. Would see only 1-2 immediate changes to the first XI and would seriously boost our HG quotas without impacting our first team quality

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