What Our Opponents' Fans Are Saying About Us 21/22

TheChosenOne said:

Yeah Clem was outstanding against us in the replay, I was too young then to go up to Anfield - didn’t get up there until ‘73 for the UEFA Cup semi which we lost 1-0

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ShelfWatcher said:

Yep, didnt make the 73 trip, but was at the 2 2 home game, more hurt from Liverpool
Them, Man U Arsenal and Chelsea have probably hurt us the most in my 60 plus years as a Spur
Because of 2019 on top of all the other pain, Liverpool are our prime tormentors and dashers of dreams, for me anyway
That man Shankly has a lot to answer for, ?, when I became a Spur they were in Div 2
The only really significant win I can remember against them trophy wise was in our 1999 lge cup run to victory, IIRC

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• Spurs did well with and since Conte joined and I see them strengthening as well. they like us though have to spend sometihing like 60 plus M just to stand still, but seem like they're prepared to.
• I think the Spuds will overtake Chelsea to finish as the 3rd place team
• 1Man City 2Spors 3Arsenal 4Liverpool
• Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Man Utd
• Spurs stronger. I think we will be stronger and closer to the top 4.
• Conte is going to keep Spurs on a generally successful path and probably get them into 3rd
• Man City, Liverpool, Spurs top 3.
• Spurs/West Ham United 5th (We could sneak above, but probably finish below)
• Man City, Liverpool and Spurs make up the top 3.
• I fear that Spurs may be the best of the rest. Conte has done a fantastic job there (considering the mess he inherited) and as long as the chairman doesn't reach for the self destruct button they could go well this season. I still think they will be some way off the top two though.
• Spurs comfortable in 3rd
• I find it interesting that so many see Chelsea and Spurs as being ahead of Man Utd. Spurs are still a side that lacks depth I reckon. If Kane gets crocked or somehow gets a move they could fall out of the top four as well.
• Spurs lack depth, but the same can be said for Arsenal, West Ham and even Man Utd. Even Chelsea now to a degree.
• Can see Spurs challenging for 3rd spot but they should comfortably hold onto 4th place imo.
• Tottenham - Conte doing an excellent job and the club looks willing to invest. I wouldn't be surprised to see them finally win something, sadly.
• annoyingly Conte has done well there and is making sensible signings
• Tottenham could be affected by the extra games, so may actually not finish in the top 4 since they're in tournaments they'll actually want to try in.

TheChosenOne said:

Although I’m pretty well chuffed about the draw up at Anfield, in the greater scheme of things it probably denied them another PL title and rocked their world a bit.

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Jgplk1 said:

KUMB

• Spurs did well with and since Conte joined and I see them strengthening as well. they like us though have to spend sometihing like 60 plus M just to stand still, but seem like they're prepared to.
• I think the Spuds will overtake Chelsea to finish as the 3rd place team
• 1Man City 2Spors 3Arsenal 4Liverpool
• Liverpool, Man City, Spurs, Man Utd
• Spurs stronger. I think we will be stronger and closer to the top 4.
• Conte is going to keep Spurs on a generally successful path and probably get them into 3rd
• Man City, Liverpool, Spurs top 3.
• Spurs/West Ham United 5th (We could sneak above, but probably finish below)
• Man City, Liverpool and Spurs make up the top 3.
• I fear that Spurs may be the best of the rest. Conte has done a fantastic job there (considering the mess he inherited) and as long as the chairman doesn't reach for the self destruct button they could go well this season. I still think they will be some way off the top two though.
• Spurs comfortable in 3rd
• I find it interesting that so many see Chelsea and Spurs as being ahead of Man Utd. Spurs are still a side that lacks depth I reckon. If Kane gets crocked or somehow gets a move they could fall out of the top four as well.
• Spurs lack depth, but the same can be said for Arsenal, West Ham and even Man Utd. Even Chelsea now to a degree.
• Can see Spurs challenging for 3rd spot but they should comfortably hold onto 4th place imo.
• Tottenham - Conte doing an excellent job and the club looks willing to invest. I wouldn't be surprised to see them finally win something, sadly.
• annoyingly Conte has done well there and is making sensible signings
• Tottenham could be affected by the extra games, so may actually not finish in the top 4 since they're in tournaments they'll actually want to try in.

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• I can see Conte battling Klopp for second spot
• I know conte has a bit of a label of being like a pep, mourinho etc.. in terms of needing big bucks to succeed but he generally seems to do well with getting lesser players performing within his system, he tends to take one team's rejects and make them a valuable in his system like kulusevski, lukaku, moses, sessegnon etc.. and is seemingly rebuilding spurs without having to chase high profile big names for big fees all summer like we have done. For the 80 million we wasted on Maguire, conte could probably rebuild 3 out of 4 positions in our back 4 for the same price
• Building a juggernaut by purchasing a sex pest and an ageing Croat
• If Conte and Spurs are winning the premier league in the future.
• Pierre Højbjerg will be like Kante and Rudiger be really really important key factors and ingredients.With a strong and solid central spine in.Pierre Højbjerg CM - Kane CF -CB and GK. I would consider Spurs up there.
• I will not write off Conte winning premier league for Spurs in the future. You never know
• This is Spurs you're talking about. They will never win the league.
• Conte is surely not going to be judged on whether he can compete with City & Liverpool next season. A good season for him and Spurs would be consolidating a top four place, perhaps even 3rd, and either going fairly deep in the CL or winning a domestic cup
• expand...With the squad Spurs now they should surely aim for the title.
• Conte will certainly fancy his chances.
• If they sort their defence and midfield then maybe.
• not mounting a title challenge with a 33 y/o Perisic and Bissouma as the additions.
• the idea that the creativity in his system comes from wingbacks is not true historically. Whether playing 2 or 3 in midfield, he has had brilliant world class midfielders in the middle of the park in his other teams.At Juventus, he had Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio.At Chelsea, prime Matic, prime Kante, Fabregas.At Inter, Brozovic, Barella, Eriksen/Vidal.Midfield was the creative fulcrum of all these teams, wingbacks with the exception of Hakimi have been more often hard charging system players who provide width and chip in with a few goals but don't stir the drink or provide a lot of creativity. For example, at Chelsea Marcos Alonso and Victor Moses combined for five assists all year in league play. Fabregas and Matic combined for 19 assists.
• expand...Of all the managers in league Conte is very flexible in his tactical set up and mostly get the best from what he got. He will do well in Europe this season in my opinion.
• Creating a competitive squad in his image that's very dangerous combination in my opinion. Spurs and levy must do whatever to keep Conte happy. Of course it's not easy but he understood the club and so far his signings are not high end yet improve them slowly and they are not done yet.
• expand...I'm not convinced they'll deliver back to back top 4 finishes. Arsenal played the better football IMO but suffered from not strengthening in January. United, surely, can't be any worse. A lot depends on summer business to come
• He’s probably the best ‘defensive’ manager around but football right now
• Conte draws too many games to challenge City and Pool & any bad injury to Son or Kane and they drop out of the top four
• My guess is that Liverpool will be worse than last year and Conte will battle with Klopp for 2nd place.
• More time in Conte's hands plus a good summer transfer window should make them a strong favorite for top four.
• Spurs side looks well balanced, but they need the attackers to be on fire if they want to win it.
• Does anyone else feel like they will have a title competing season (similar to Conte at Chelsea) this time around?
• Have to give credit to Spurs for the turnaround though - Paratici has a clear vision and is delivering the players Conte wants (as he knows he will sulk and be off if he doesn't!)
• think Son is going to have another huge season, he'll be in contention for the golden boot again. Expected him to flourish under Conte an that's exactly what happened.
• really don't think they have a good squad. They are so heavily reliant on kane and son. Wonder what their % output was last year in goals and assists. If kane and son stay fit for the entire season then they'll probably get 3rd or 4th with others contributing.
• I think they have the best attack in the league, but agree the depth is not as good. When I said squad I talked mainly about the first 11. I think players like Romero and Davies for example are really good players. Dier they could replace though.It looks though that City might sell some big attacking names and put more faith in Haaland. If he do not perform as well as Kane then Spurs got a chance.
• Romero could low key be one of the best CB's next season, he really looks the goods. Dier had a good season, I never really rated him much in a back 2, but looks like marshalling a back three from that central position suits him.
• Bissouma at 25 is a brilliant signing. Spurs will definitely be a club to watch out for next season. They will make it a bit harder for us to get top four if things doesn't blow up there. Any other regular coach, I would not be so concerned with Spurs, but I m sure Conte will instill a winning mentality there

TheChosenOne said:

I really thought we had them in the 82 Milk Cup, something like 7 minutes remaining when they equalised- the rest was a blur.

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Jgplk1 said:

Red Cafe

• I can see Conte battling Klopp for second spot
• I know conte has a bit of a label of being like a pep, mourinho etc.. in terms of needing big bucks to succeed but he generally seems to do well with getting lesser players performing within his system, he tends to take one team's rejects and make them a valuable in his system like kulusevski, lukaku, moses, sessegnon etc.. and is seemingly rebuilding spurs without having to chase high profile big names for big fees all summer like we have done. For the 80 million we wasted on Maguire, conte could probably rebuild 3 out of 4 positions in our back 4 for the same price
• Building a juggernaut by purchasing a sex pest and an ageing Croat
• If Conte and Spurs are winning the premier league in the future.
• Pierre Højbjerg will be like Kante and Rudiger be really really important key factors and ingredients.With a strong and solid central spine in.Pierre Højbjerg CM - Kane CF -CB and GK. I would consider Spurs up there.
• I will not write off Conte winning premier league for Spurs in the future. You never know
• This is Spurs you're talking about. They will never win the league.
• Conte is surely not going to be judged on whether he can compete with City & Liverpool next season. A good season for him and Spurs would be consolidating a top four place, perhaps even 3rd, and either going fairly deep in the CL or winning a domestic cup
• expand...With the squad Spurs now they should surely aim for the title.
• Conte will certainly fancy his chances.
• If they sort their defence and midfield then maybe.
• not mounting a title challenge with a 33 y/o Perisic and Bissouma as the additions.
• the idea that the creativity in his system comes from wingbacks is not true historically. Whether playing 2 or 3 in midfield, he has had brilliant world class midfielders in the middle of the park in his other teams.At Juventus, he had Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio.At Chelsea, prime Matic, prime Kante, Fabregas.At Inter, Brozovic, Barella, Eriksen/Vidal.Midfield was the creative fulcrum of all these teams, wingbacks with the exception of Hakimi have been more often hard charging system players who provide width and chip in with a few goals but don't stir the drink or provide a lot of creativity. For example, at Chelsea Marcos Alonso and Victor Moses combined for five assists all year in league play. Fabregas and Matic combined for 19 assists.
• expand...Of all the managers in league Conte is very flexible in his tactical set up and mostly get the best from what he got. He will do well in Europe this season in my opinion.
• Creating a competitive squad in his image that's very dangerous combination in my opinion. Spurs and levy must do whatever to keep Conte happy. Of course it's not easy but he understood the club and so far his signings are not high end yet improve them slowly and they are not done yet.
• expand...I'm not convinced they'll deliver back to back top 4 finishes. Arsenal played the better football IMO but suffered from not strengthening in January. United, surely, can't be any worse. A lot depends on summer business to come
• He’s probably the best ‘defensive’ manager around but football right now
• Conte draws too many games to challenge City and Pool & any bad injury to Son or Kane and they drop out of the top four
• My guess is that Liverpool will be worse than last year and Conte will battle with Klopp for 2nd place.
• More time in Conte's hands plus a good summer transfer window should make them a strong favorite for top four.
• Spurs side looks well balanced, but they need the attackers to be on fire if they want to win it.
• Does anyone else feel like they will have a title competing season (similar to Conte at Chelsea) this time around?
• Have to give credit to Spurs for the turnaround though - Paratici has a clear vision and is delivering the players Conte wants (as he knows he will sulk and be off if he doesn't!)
• think Son is going to have another huge season, he'll be in contention for the golden boot again. Expected him to flourish under Conte an that's exactly what happened.
• really don't think they have a good squad. They are so heavily reliant on kane and son. Wonder what their % output was last year in goals and assists. If kane and son stay fit for the entire season then they'll probably get 3rd or 4th with others contributing.
• I think they have the best attack in the league, but agree the depth is not as good. When I said squad I talked mainly about the first 11. I think players like Romero and Davies for example are really good players. Dier they could replace though.It looks though that City might sell some big attacking names and put more faith in Haaland. If he do not perform as well as Kane then Spurs got a chance.
• Romero could low key be one of the best CB's next season, he really looks the goods. Dier had a good season, I never really rated him much in a back 2, but looks like marshalling a back three from that central position suits him.
• Bissouma at 25 is a brilliant signing. Spurs will definitely be a club to watch out for next season. They will make it a bit harder for us to get top four if things doesn't blow up there. Any other regular coach, I would not be so concerned with Spurs, but I m sure Conte will instill a winning mentality there

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• Following his heroics in Munich, Harry Kane returns to Spurs and models their new away kit for the 22/23 season

• might put a few quid on Spurs to win the league next season (16/1).
• If, and it's a big if, they can maintain their end of season good form. Their manager is a proven winner
• Kyle winning the Premier League and Modrić winning the CL, that’s two more trophies that former Tottenham players have won since Spurs last picked up any silverware.
• Harry Kane's grandkids in 30 years time -Please can we go to Uncle Kyles so that we can look at his Premier League winners medals Grandad ??
• "Have you ever seen Spurs win the league "??
• Have you fuck !!!
• They win their league every year when they play us
• Some very good additions for great prices. Will be in the mix this coming season
• Stranger things have happened.
• I can’t see them closing the gap to win the league, unless both us and victimpool fall off big style.Our squad is too strong for that though. Liverpool could , so I wouldn’t be at all shocked to see Spurs finish second or something.Conte with a full season will make them certainties for top 4. I think he’s top notch and getting them on board with what he wants. As long as nobody rocks the boat, they’ll be in the top 3 in my opinion. A few good additions and they’ll be a really good side.Chelsea will probably still make top 4. Liverpool probably won’t finish below 4th.Man Utd even in their wildest dreams still won’t make the champions league

• Arsenal fan mate of mine going on about how spurs have no ethics signing Bissouma yet all year was saying what a good signing he would be for Arsenal. He’s a good friend and a clever guy but I do wonder what happens to peoples heads when football is involved.
• I think Spurs have made a great move here, he’s everything an ambitious side like them would look for in a new signing. I think they have gotten a bargain for £25m
• You won't get many players on the main better than Bissouma for 25mIt's a bargain but I reckon Spurs will use him rotation mostly and flip him and sell him for a small profit in 18 months.
• Spurs will be harder to beat next season with Bissouma and Bentancur in central midfield. We had the right scouting ideas, but not the pulling power imo.
• Massively overrated on here by some. He’s a decent player, but there is better out there for a similar price.
• Surely this must be a comedy post?! You were the biggest advocate for signing Bissouma until you realised he was going elsewhere. Now you act like a guy who has tried to chat up the fittest girl in the pub and got rejected as you were walking up to talk to her ?
• well I for one have got right up on my high horse about this signing to my spurs mate regarding them signing this predatory beast . I would hope you would all do the same ?...now to delete all my old posts praying that he would join us...
• why would you choose Villa over Spurs right now? CL football, Conte, London?
• you have to be realistic in these situations until the time we can offer what Spurs do.
• Pretty impressive from them. Already have two good DMs but not content to think that's enough

• Lloris
• ………..Romero Dier BastoniKulusevski. Bissouma Bentancur. Perisic…………………Eriksen………….. Son. ……. Kane. That’s a good team tbf. We really can’t afford to mess this window up.
• They got Bissouma for half of what we paid for White. Edu and Arteta should be frog marched into traffic for crimes against football.
• Nothing more telling of how scummy of a club Sp*rs are than signing a player currently under investigation for sexual assault. Wouldn't be surprised if it ends up biting them in the arse eventually
• I for one am happy Arsenal aren't stupid enough gambling on a player that might end up with a criminal conviction.You think Brighton would have let him go for that price if that sexual assault investigation wasn't hanging over him? They probably saw it as an opportunity to get rid of a potential ticking time bomb.
• You don’t think Sp**s and their legal team have done their due diligence?I think Bissouma will be fine. He was with an uncle or cousin, who touched a women from behind. Investigations are probably still ongoing, but nothing to suggest something serious is looking for him.
• It's a dangerous gamble. Forgive me if I skeptical of hailing this as a masterstroke of business.
• You don't think Arsenal did theirs when they decided it wasn't worth pusrsuing him? There are better midfielders out there without sexual allegations attached to them. It's worth paying a little extra for that.
• Bissouma, he has been released without any bail conditions. The case is still being investigated, but he is an innocent man as things stand today. His uncle touched a ladies bumm, Bissouma was there when it happened.
• The literal point of football/sport, is to win trophies.I will never understand Sp**s fans
• They're a much more watered down Liverpool.Always looking for the moral victories. They can have them, we'll take the ones that yield actual trophies
• This is where things get annoying, this lot would keep their mouths shut had we not bottled 4th ffs.
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Jgplk1 said:

Red Cafe

• I can see Conte battling Klopp for second spot
• I know conte has a bit of a label of being like a pep, mourinho etc.. in terms of needing big bucks to succeed but he generally seems to do well with getting lesser players performing within his system, he tends to take one team's rejects and make them a valuable in his system like kulusevski, lukaku, moses, sessegnon etc.. and is seemingly rebuilding spurs without having to chase high profile big names for big fees all summer like we have done. For the 80 million we wasted on Maguire, conte could probably rebuild 3 out of 4 positions in our back 4 for the same price
• Building a juggernaut by purchasing a sex pest and an ageing Croat
• If Conte and Spurs are winning the premier league in the future.
• Pierre Højbjerg will be like Kante and Rudiger be really really important key factors and ingredients.With a strong and solid central spine in.Pierre Højbjerg CM - Kane CF -CB and GK. I would consider Spurs up there.
• I will not write off Conte winning premier league for Spurs in the future. You never know
• This is Spurs you're talking about. They will never win the league.
• Conte is surely not going to be judged on whether he can compete with City & Liverpool next season. A good season for him and Spurs would be consolidating a top four place, perhaps even 3rd, and either going fairly deep in the CL or winning a domestic cup
• expand...With the squad Spurs now they should surely aim for the title.
• Conte will certainly fancy his chances.
• If they sort their defence and midfield then maybe.
• not mounting a title challenge with a 33 y/o Perisic and Bissouma as the additions.
• the idea that the creativity in his system comes from wingbacks is not true historically. Whether playing 2 or 3 in midfield, he has had brilliant world class midfielders in the middle of the park in his other teams.At Juventus, he had Pirlo, Vidal, Pogba, Marchisio.At Chelsea, prime Matic, prime Kante, Fabregas.At Inter, Brozovic, Barella, Eriksen/Vidal.Midfield was the creative fulcrum of all these teams, wingbacks with the exception of Hakimi have been more often hard charging system players who provide width and chip in with a few goals but don't stir the drink or provide a lot of creativity. For example, at Chelsea Marcos Alonso and Victor Moses combined for five assists all year in league play. Fabregas and Matic combined for 19 assists.
• expand...Of all the managers in league Conte is very flexible in his tactical set up and mostly get the best from what he got. He will do well in Europe this season in my opinion.
• Creating a competitive squad in his image that's very dangerous combination in my opinion. Spurs and levy must do whatever to keep Conte happy. Of course it's not easy but he understood the club and so far his signings are not high end yet improve them slowly and they are not done yet.
• expand...I'm not convinced they'll deliver back to back top 4 finishes. Arsenal played the better football IMO but suffered from not strengthening in January. United, surely, can't be any worse. A lot depends on summer business to come
• He’s probably the best ‘defensive’ manager around but football right now
• Conte draws too many games to challenge City and Pool & any bad injury to Son or Kane and they drop out of the top four
• My guess is that Liverpool will be worse than last year and Conte will battle with Klopp for 2nd place.
• More time in Conte's hands plus a good summer transfer window should make them a strong favorite for top four.
• Spurs side looks well balanced, but they need the attackers to be on fire if they want to win it.
• Does anyone else feel like they will have a title competing season (similar to Conte at Chelsea) this time around?
• Have to give credit to Spurs for the turnaround though - Paratici has a clear vision and is delivering the players Conte wants (as he knows he will sulk and be off if he doesn't!)
• think Son is going to have another huge season, he'll be in contention for the golden boot again. Expected him to flourish under Conte an that's exactly what happened.
• really don't think they have a good squad. They are so heavily reliant on kane and son. Wonder what their % output was last year in goals and assists. If kane and son stay fit for the entire season then they'll probably get 3rd or 4th with others contributing.
• I think they have the best attack in the league, but agree the depth is not as good. When I said squad I talked mainly about the first 11. I think players like Romero and Davies for example are really good players. Dier they could replace though.It looks though that City might sell some big attacking names and put more faith in Haaland. If he do not perform as well as Kane then Spurs got a chance.
• Romero could low key be one of the best CB's next season, he really looks the goods. Dier had a good season, I never really rated him much in a back 2, but looks like marshalling a back three from that central position suits him.
• Bissouma at 25 is a brilliant signing. Spurs will definitely be a club to watch out for next season. They will make it a bit harder for us to get top four if things doesn't blow up there. Any other regular coach, I would not be so concerned with Spurs, but I m sure Conte will instill a winning mentality there

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ShelfWatcher said:

Yep, I was there, not pleasant. But losing the leg cup semi to them 2 years earlier hurt me much more
We had a tremendous season in 71,lge cup, 3rd in league, fa cup quarters, so I was happy enough
Have always worried more about us than Arsenal

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When Arsenal beat Spurs at White Hart Lane four times in one year

Arsenal have not won in Tottenham for five years. They won four games at White Hart Lane in 1987 – all by the same score

www.theguardian.com

bradfordspur said:

Mentioning the League Cup semi final v Arsenal in 1987 brings back painful memories. After the first two legs finished all square, there was a coin toss to decide who hosted the replay which Spurs won! All round us people were baying to pick Highbury as we an atrocious record against them at WHL. Well WHL was selected and the rest is history. This Guardian article has the detail that I hope is never repeated!

When Arsenal beat Spurs at White Hart Lane four times in one year

Arsenal have not won in Tottenham for five years. They won four games at White Hart Lane in 1987 – all by the same score

www.theguardian.com

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Jgplk1 said:

Red Cafe:
Conte draws too many games to challenge City and Pool & any bad injury to Son or Kane and they drop out of the top four

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leffe186 said:

Just to be clear, we drew five games last season, fewer than Liverpool (8) or City (6).

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leffe186 said:

Just to be clear, we drew five games last season, fewer than Liverpool (8) or City (6).

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allatsea said:

Please don't allow facts to interfere when someone is criticising Spurs.

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