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Berbatov - injured or off waiting for sale?

toto84

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Berba has not long turned 27 (on Jan 30th to be precise), just reaching his peak years for a Footballer. With Spurs he won his first Trophy at Wembley on Feb 24th since he played for CSKA as a teenager. It's hardly been a waste of time being at our club, has it? Though I accept, clearly not good enough for Danchev or the Bulgarian press, the BFU, and it seems most BG Fans. :cry:

Indeed. He's had more respect and love and admiration from Spurs Fans than he ever got from CSKA Fans or gets from Bulgarian Team supporters, as Berba himself has said.

The pressure on Berbatov comes from the British media who consider you a team not good enough for his talent and I don't know based on what you think the fans in Bulgaria care about Berbatov :roll:
He wasn't loved while he played for the nonsense Stalinist four letters and I can make you sure-you are getting wrong notion about the Bulgarian fans' opinion on Berba :wink: that of course excluding the glory hunting dickheads supporting teams like manusa,liverpool,le arse,barcelona etc,etc.
 

nicdic

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He wouldn't be linked away in the British media if he agent wasn't so quick to talk up a move at every chance he had.
 

toto84

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All the stuff about Berba moving from Spurs in the Bulgarian media is quoted from Daily Mail,the Sun and others you have over there.Danchev just like every other agent is doing his job.Unless you see Berbatov coming up with a statement "I want to leave" you should stop dissing him for absolutely no reason-this is just illustration of inferior complex-fearing the Sol Campbell and Carrick situations.
 

LadieK

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I don't know, I just know that I was very impressed with how we played without him yesterday - something I know we are capable of doing well.

I'd love him to stay but I don't think it'll break us if he goes. As I've said before, I don't think all our play goes through him and I think yesterday was proof that Keano and Bent can cut it given the chance.
 

nicdic

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All the stuff about Berba moving from Spurs in the Bulgarian media is quoted from Daily Mail,the Sun and others you have over there.Danchev just like every other agent is doing his job.Unless you see Berbatov coming up with a statement "I want to leave" you should stop dissing him for absolutely no reason-this is just illustration of inferior complex-fearing the Sol Campbell and Carrick situations.

Those stories are only around because Dantchev is sounding out a move all the time. If Dantchev had kept his mouth closed, none of this talk would be about. Do you notice Santa Cruz's agent talking him up and scouting a move? Or Bentley? No. He's not just doing his job, he's trying to get himself a big payday, by getting his player to transfer. I'm not fearing a Carrick or Campbell situation, or dissing him. He's never said he'd leave, and I have no reason to believe that he wants out.
 

toto84

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Those stories are only around because Dantchev is sounding out a move all the time. If Dantchev had kept his mouth closed, none of this talk would be about. Do you notice Santa Cruz's agent talking him up and scouting a move? Or Bentley? No. He's not just doing his job, he's trying to get himself a big payday, by getting his player to transfer. I'm not fearing a Carrick or Campbell situation, or dissing him. He's never said he'd leave, and I have no reason to believe that he wants out.

It's not in Danchev's interest to keep his mouth shut because this is not going to load his bank account.The agents are all about money and he is trying to profit as much as possible from his client,meaning he is doing his job.

Now I read that Madrid are offering 25m and the source is again British

http://gong.bg/view_article.php?article_id=44346

This is pure example of what is written about Berba in the Bulgarian media-it's all coming from England,they just copied it.
 

nicdic

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Can you read? Yes the stories are in our press, but thats because the agent started talking first. If he'd kept his mouth shut, the rumours wouldn't be circulating.

How many other agents are currently causing as much unrest as Dantchev? Not many.
 

toto84

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There are not many other world class forwards playing for mediocre teams,I guess this is the reason about the interest around Berbatov.
 

lily_lane

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The pressure on Berbatov comes from the British media who consider you a team not good enough for his talent and I don't know based on what you think the fans in Bulgaria care about Berbatov :roll:
He wasn't loved while he played for the nonsense Stalinist four letters and I can make you sure-you are getting wrong notion about the Bulgarian fans' opinion on Berba :wink: that of course excluding the glory hunting dickheads supporting teams like manusa,liverpool,le arse,barcelona etc,etc.

Try getting your head around your own club prejudices, and look at the facts.

Why did the President of the BFU feel the need to mention the words "Manchester United" just before presenting Berba with the BPOTY Trophy last month? How did the British Media force him to do that? Why do your journalists and reporters question him everytime he sets foot in Sofia Airport, and he has to hold an impromptu press conference about "the interest from Milan" or answer the question "is there a problem between Danchev and Ramos?"

Where I'm getting my information and opinions is based on this:
From following the Bulgarian Media via the internet, and from BG fans in general, not just a group of bitter Levski supporters.
On the fact that Berabtov is the only Bulgarian footballer who gets invited to the Foreign Ministry to receive an Award from the Foreign Secretary of Bulgaria for his services to promoting the image and standing of Bulgarians abroad.
On the many TV interviews he's given, the most recent half hour interview broadcast on BTV where every aspect of his life is of public interest to your nation. Do either of the Petrovs get asked to give such interviews? No, because they are merely footballers, and haven't transcended the sporting world into being the biggest Bulgarian Superstar.

And FYI, it has been posted on gg forum that Danchev began hawking Berbatov around 5 months after he arrived in England to play for Spurs by holding talks with MU. Yes, 5 months. He spoke to the press, and made no secret of the fact he was looking to engineer a Berba move away from Spurs. Does every Agent do this "as it's only his job"? No, they don't. There are rules and regulations aswell as morals and decency in how to behave, and keeping Danchev as his Agent has reflected very badly on Berbatov.
 

toto84

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Try getting your head around your own club prejudices, and look at the facts.

You wouldn't want to bet I am doing something else.We are cashing in too:wink:

Why did the President of the BFU feel the need to mention the words "Manchester United" just before presenting Berba with the BPOTY Trophy last month?

Asking him this yourself will answer your question.

Why do your journalists and reporters question him everytime he sets foot in Sofia Airport, and he has to hold an impromptu press conference about "the interest from Milan" or answer the question "is there a problem between Danchev and Ramos?"

:violin: You are not serious,are you?The questions he gets from the Bulgarian journalists are based on what is written in the British media.

Where I'm getting my information and opinions is based on this:
From following the Bulgarian Media via the internet, and from BG fans in general, not just a group of bitter Levski supporters.

I'd like to see you backing this up about the Bulgarian media because all I see is stories coming from England.
Not everybody disliking the artificially created to represent the commies club cska ,is Levski fan.

On the fact that Berabtov is the only Bulgarian footballer who gets invited to the Foreign Ministry to receive an Award from the Foreign Secretary of Bulgaria for his services to promoting the image and standing of Bulgarians abroad.
On the many TV interviews he's given, the most recent half hour interview broadcast on BTV where every aspect of his life is of public interest to your nation. Do either of the Petrovs get asked to give such interviews? No, because they are merely footballers, and haven't transcended the sporting world into being the biggest Bulgarian Superstar.

In this particular case it's about personalities,it's like giving Gazza an award for promoting the image of the British.
Both Martin and Stilian Petrovi don't talk to the media in Bulgaria because they have their differences.
There are many more and much more successful Bulgarian sport stars than Berba :wink:

And FYI, it has been posted on gg forum that Danchev began hawking Berbatov around 5 months after he arrived in England to play for Spurs by holding talks with MU. Yes, 5 months. He spoke to the press, and made no secret of the fact he was looking to engineer a Berba move away from Spurs. Does every Agent do this "as it's only his job"? No, they don't. There are rules and regulations aswell as morals and decency in how to behave, and keeping Danchev as his Agent has reflected very badly on Berbatov.

I made my point trying to be objective-all agents appear in the press if they are asked to because this is in their favor.Nobody run away from the money.Judging Danchev's moral,decency,personalities etc is none of my business,professionally I don't believe he done something wrong.F.Torres' case was similar-his club under performing,all top teams asking for him,his agent appearing in talk shows,giving interviews for the papers etc,etc.Just like what is going on now with Ronaldinho.
 

lily_lane

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:violin: You are not serious,are you?The questions he gets from the Bulgarian journalists are based on what is written in the British media.


toto84, this discussion is not getting any further, as you're just repeating the same assertion that all the transfer speculation emanates from the British Media, when I, and others, have pointed out to you that it was all started off as they are reporting information given to them directly by Danchev. Further confirmation and example of this is given in detail by a poster on gg forum.

Asking him this yourself will answer your question.

And I'd get to talk to the President of the BFU how exactly? You're not really adding anything, just making silly points, so I'll make this my last reply.

I'd like to see you backing this up about the Bulgarian media because all I see is stories coming from England.

Did you read my previous post? I gave you examples of BG TV interviews that Berba has given.

In this particular case it's about personalities,it's like giving Gazza an award for promoting the image of the British.

Hardly a direct comparison. Try the Beckham of recent years for the superstar 'off the field' status that Berba has in Bulgaria right now.

Both Martin and Stilian Petrovi don't talk to the media in Bulgaria because they have their differences.

I saw both of them speak to reporters at Sofia Airport last month broadcast on TV via the internet.

There are many more and much more successful Bulgarian sport stars than Berba :wink:

I'd be very interested if you could list them for me. Seriously, at a world level. As the only other sports people I know of are Albena Denkova, the icedancer, who became WC 2 times with her Russian partner, and several Rhythmic Gymnasts who compete at the top level.

If you don't like/don't rate/don't care for Berbatov as a representative of Bulgaria, why are you even bothering then?
The fact is every Bulgarian has an opinion on him - that's why he matters so much. So you're contradicting yourself.
 

Gabriella

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Try getting your head around your own club prejudices, and look at the facts.

Why did the President of the BFU feel the need to mention the words "Manchester United" just before presenting Berba with the BPOTY Trophy last month? How did the British Media force him to do that? Why do your journalists and reporters question him everytime he sets foot in Sofia Airport, and he has to hold an impromptu press conference about "the interest from Milan" or answer the question "is there a problem between Danchev and Ramos?"

Where I'm getting my information and opinions is based on this:
From following the Bulgarian Media via the internet, and from BG fans in general, not just a group of bitter Levski supporters.
On the fact that Berabtov is the only Bulgarian footballer who gets invited to the Foreign Ministry to receive an Award from the Foreign Secretary of Bulgaria for his services to promoting the image and standing of Bulgarians abroad.
On the many TV interviews he's given, the most recent half hour interview broadcast on BTV where every aspect of his life is of public interest to your nation. Do either of the Petrovs get asked to give such interviews? No, because they are merely footballers, and haven't transcended the sporting world into being the biggest Bulgarian Superstar.

And FYI, it has been posted on gg forum that Danchev began hawking Berbatov around 5 months after he arrived in England to play for Spurs by holding talks with MU. Yes, 5 months. He spoke to the press, and made no secret of the fact he was looking to engineer a Berba move away from Spurs. Does every Agent do this "as it's only his job"? No, they don't. There are rules and regulations aswell as morals and decency in how to behave, and keeping Danchev as his Agent has reflected very badly on Berbatov.

I agree completely with this post except for one part - today there was exactly the same interview on BTV with Martin Petrov. Btw, he said that there was no offer from Spurs, it was just an "interest" they showed but nothing more..


toto84, you must be kidding :rofl: You can't say that Berbatov is a bigger star than Petrovs, you just can't! We both know that EVERYDAY there are at least 2 articles about Berbatov in EVERY newspaper/ site - yesterdaty he didn't play and it was again the leading news. I am Levski fan, my family, most of my friends,too.. but they all DO love Berbatov. Face the facts - the guy is very good player, polite, intelligent and loves the country (unlike you-know-who). Don't be prejudiced
 

toto84

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toto84, you must be kidding :rofl: You can't say that Berbatov is a bigger star than Petrovs, you just can't! We both know that EVERYDAY there are at least 2 articles about Berbatov in EVERY newspaper/ site - yesterdaty he didn't play and it was again the leading news. I am Levski fan, my family, most of my friends,too.. but they all DO love Berbatov. Face the facts - the guy is very good player, polite, intelligent and loves the country (unlike you-know-who). Don't be prejudiced

I think you didn't understand what I wrote.I never compared Berba to anyone,as Berbatov himself-I know him personally,his family and his friends,used to be in the same school with him,he is just few years older than me.My dad live just next door to Berba,their apartments facing each other.
 

lily_lane

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I agree completely with this post except for one part - today there was exactly the same interview on BTV with Martin Petrov. Btw, he said that there was no offer from Spurs, it was just an "interest" they showed but nothing more..


toto84, you must be kidding :rofl: You can't say that Berbatov is a bigger star than Petrovs, you just can't! We both know that EVERYDAY there are at least 2 articles about Berbatov in EVERY newspaper/ site - yesterdaty he didn't play and it was again the leading news. I am Levski fan, my family, most of my friends,too.. but they all DO love Berbatov. Face the facts - the guy is very good player, polite, intelligent and loves the country (unlike you-know-who). Don't be prejudiced

Gabi!!!!!!!!! :bowdown::clap::hello: Welcome back! You were missed!

I will never call Levski fans bitter ever again! I am suitably corrected! :oops:

Thanks for the Martin Petrov info - will check out BTV tomorrow for the interview. :)
 

toto84

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toto84, this discussion is not getting any further, as you're just repeating the same assertion that all the transfer speculation emanates from the British Media, when I, and others, have pointed out to you that it was all started off as they are reporting information given to them directly by Danchev. Further confirmation and example of this is given in detail by a poster on gg forum.

Sorry for the late respond I just saw this post is on page 3 :wink:
I was not discussing what some person has posted on some forum,I stated that the stories on the Bulgarian papers are quoted from the English ones.You draw your own conclusions.

And I'd get to talk to the President of the BFU how exactly? You're not really adding anything, just making silly points, so I'll make this my last reply.

This reminds me of the Bulgarian phrase :"The thief shouting get the thief".
Must be the global conspiracy against Spurs trying to leave you without your best player :wink:

Did you read my previous post? I gave you examples of BG TV interviews that Berba has given.

Yes I did.And I asked you to back it up or should I "go look for them-they all over the net" ?:wink:

I'd be very interested if you could list them for me. Seriously, at a world level. As the only other sports people I know of are Albena Denkova, the icedancer, who became WC 2 times with her Russian partner, and several Rhythmic Gymnasts who compete at the top level.

Petar Stoychev,Veselin Topalov,Kaloyan Mahlyanov,Stanka Zlateva,Velichko Cholakov.All they received award for the contribution of promoting the image of the Bulgarians abroad and for their achievements of course.

If you don't like/don't rate/don't care for Berbatov as a representative of Bulgaria, why are you even bothering then?
The fact is every Bulgarian has an opinion on him - that's why he matters so much. So you're contradicting yourself.

You wouldn't come with this kind of question/conclusion if you red my posts.
 

lily_lane

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Sorry for the late respond I just saw this post is on page 3 :wink:

You're excused.

Petar Stoychev,Veselin Topalov,Kaloyan Mahlyanov,Stanka Zlateva,Velichko Cholakov.All they received award for the contribution of promoting the image of the Bulgarians abroad and for their achievements of course.

Which are? I'll refrain from saying 'Who?' As that might sound sound rather rude. Which sports do they compete in, as I don't follow them? I'm assuming they are world champions, that's why you've listed them.

You wouldn't come with this kind of question/conclusion if you red my posts.

Your posts to me are a contradiction and quite baffling, so the discussion is stymied. From your reply to Gabi, you must be from Blagoevgrad, where Berba left as a 17 year old, and he's a few years older than you, so I wouldn't imagine you are privvy to his innermost thoughts or a close friend. But nice to chat to you, thankfully most of the other BG posters I've come across on the net are considerably more pleasant and helpful. :wink:
 
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