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JimmyG2

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A lot of activity on the wires about an own grown team.
It's for long been a dream, fantasy delusion of mine. Call it what you will.

Own grown players give you greater commitment and passion and the willingness to go the extra mile or three.
See the many testimonies to Harry Kane's dedication, first on: last off the training ground stuff.

However good the foreign stars are they lack that extra element which can make a difference.
And It gives the fans something to be proud of and identify with.

What they obviously lack is experience and of course an element of quality which pure home grownism cannot necessarily supply. But who would not pick Bentaleb over all of our Magnificent Seven midfielders.

Paulinho is clearly a talented player but generally speaking it's just a job, he could have gone anywhere in Europe and earned the same money and plays as if he can't really be bothered.He's not Tottenham and never will be. Well not unless he stays ten years which seems unlikely with Carroll and Winks breathing down his neck

We have nearly a dozen Academy boys waiting to join the five who played this year. Several played in the post season tour and did themselves no harm. There is plenty of quality there.Now's the time for the Geat Experiment which might change the face of English football.

Do we have a keeper anywhere in the ranks. McGee maybe but he didn't get the chance to show us on the bigger stage.

I wrote a little tongue in cheek about our Academy being the modern equivalent of the Medieval Philosopher's Stone turning base metal into gold. That would make Mauricio the Alchemist and he has some of the faith in youth to go some way towards it.

How far could such a team go? I know, I know you win nothing with kids. But I would be more than ready to watch the experiment get under way.

We would miss the Berbatovs, the Modric's, the Lloris's of course and foreign stars have added much to the quality of the Premiership and to the history of Spurs But Arsenal, City and Chelsea amongst others have let it get out of hand, fielding virtually all foreign signings and either not producing their own or not playing them with any conviction.

I would love it, love it to see an Academy team walk out at White hart Lane in the Premiership. But I'm not so Spursified to think that it could happen.But I bet we could get damn close to fielding one and for them to finish top half and maybe more.. I'd settle for that.

There is no-one in our current squad apart from Eriksen and Lloris that demand to be made Honorary Spurs.
Perhaps Vertonghen on a good day.

Come on Mauricio give it a go. You know you want to and Daniel Levy too but for different reasons. Am I serious? You bet. Am I deluded. Almost certainly.

Has Ledley got his badges yet? Is Bale ready to return? I love my dreams. I'm off to bed.
 

Hotspur33

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The most optimistic post ever?

In an ideal world we would have a team full of academy products, however the only bloke brazen enough to give it a go would be Sherwood.
It would most likely lead to relegation shortly followed by desertion.
Even if we have the best academy in Europe, it wouldn't end well. And we as fans would soon get tired of losing at the cost of a moral victory
 

beats1

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The most optimistic post ever?

In an ideal world we would have a team full of academy products, however the only bloke brazen enough to give it a go would be Sherwood.
It would most likely lead to relegation shortly followed by desertion.
Even if we have the best academy in Europe, it wouldn't end well. And we as fans would soon get tired of losing at the cost of a moral victory
Didn't turn out too bad for Barcelona
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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It's not pie in the sky. It is entirely possible with the correct system of selecting capable youth. It just needs a club to break the mould. In more sense than the literal.
You may always have a supplementary player as you say. Lloris etc, but 8 academy players? Plausible in my book.
 

Danners9

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If it works out this way, Spurs would be the envy of fans around the country. It's the dream, isn't it, to have a team made up of academy players? A consistent conveyor belt of talent. The players who grow up together, playing the same way at every level, forming a successful first team.

Ahh, it would be magnificent.

I do it on Football Manager but always have to plug the gaps with better players until the young ones are ready. Lloris is there until Whiteman is ready. Balanta is there until Carter-Vickers is ready. Jackson Martinez is there until Ryan Loft is ready. Fans get super pissed off when a superstar is sold but my home grown quota is now up to 15 of the 23 first team squad players :D
 

JimmyG2

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If it works out this way, Spurs would be the envy of fans around the country. It's the dream, isn't it, to have a team made up of academy players? A consistent conveyor belt of talent. The players who grow up together, playing the same way at every level, forming a successful first team.

Ahh, it would be magnificent.

I do it on Football Manager but always have to plug the gaps with better players until the young ones are ready. Lloris is there until Whiteman is ready. Balanta is there until Carter-Vickers is ready. Jackson Martinez is there until Ryan Loft is ready. Fans get super pissed off when a superstar is sold but my home grown quota is now up to 15 of the 23 first team squad players :D

Yes what I have in mind, to be almost serious for a moment is for a premier group of home growns
who make up the bulk of the team 8 as you suggest or seven or nine depending on the talent coming through

Then a second group of 'honoury' Spurs, Yiddos and legends if you will.
All must have been at the club for say five years or be granted temporary Spursdom, say Lloris to fill a gap.
It's sort of cheating I know

Younger players say under 22, Dier, Eriksen, Lamela or whoever could have say a shorter qualification period.
Over 28 your finished mate. But own grown always get preference.
Getting too detailed and complicated now for a dream but you get the idea.

Yorkshire used to only play Yorkshire born, both my daughters qualified
but they joined the real world before they were old enough. Yorkshire not my daughters.
Athetic Club Bilbao still do it in La Liga. Barcelona sort of do it.
 

defoe18

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Lovely post, i think it's a long way off but i reckon we *could* see a spine of 5-7 academy players with a few imports thrown in, in the future.

Walker-Peters, Pritchard, Veljkovic, Ali, Winks and Onomah all have potential.... but we've been here before (see John Bostock...)

The great thing is though, for the first time since the Jol era, we have a squad packed with young "British" or homegrown talent and that makes me immensely proud.
 

waresy

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The important thing is getting a blend, I guess that is the aim and objective of any team for any reason (youth, ability, nationality).
Bringing through as many young players as possible is a great target if they are of the right quality. English football needs clubs to be thinking about quality talent. The team can then be supplemented with other players.
I'd much rather see a townsend, carroll, winks or onomah come off the bench than a low quality player we've bought in from elsewhere
 

Mattspur

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I think our problem areas would be GK and the CB's but we would look something like this:

Prichard Kane Townsend

Bentaleb Carroll Mason

Rose Veljkovic ????? Fredericks

?????​

If we played Vertonghen and Dier at CB and Lloris in goal I think we'd probably finish mid table.
 

yido_number1

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It is possible to sign players from overseas that have the right stuff. Nationality and background stereo typing is flawed when you consider how idolised players like VDV, Ginola, Ardiles and Klinsmann were compared to Bentley (A spurs fan that just didn't give a fuck), Calum Davenport and John Bostock.

A big part of Mitchel's remit should be signing players with both the physical and mental attributes to be a success. Players like Chiriches, Kaboul, Capoue, Paulinho all have good physical and technical skills but lack majorly in things like desire, concentration and commitment.
 

Hotspur33

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The only way it would work is if Levy himself tasked the manager to do just that, and was willing to see out the job.
However I can't see it happening. I think Levy will be more than happy to have 2-3 players in the team/squad and then use the others to try and make a profit. I think Southampton are as close to the academy holy grail as anybody.
 

Mattspur

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The only way it would work is if Levy himself tasked the manager to do just that, and was willing to see out the job.
However I can't see it happening. I think Levy will be more than happy to have 2-3 players in the team/squad and then use the others to try and make a profit. I think Southampton are as close to the academy holy grail as anybody.

Southampton? didn't they only play 1 club trained player regulaly last season?
 

JimmyG2

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It is possible to sign players from overseas that have the right stuff. Nationality and background stereo typing is flawed when you consider how idolised players like VDV, Ginola, Ardiles and Klinsmann were compared to Bentley (A spurs fan that just didn't give a fuck), Calum Davenport and John Bostock.

A big part of Mitchel's remit should be signing players with both the physical and mental attributes to be a success. Players like Chiriches, Kaboul, Capoue, Paulinho all have good physical and technical skills but lack majorly in things like desire, concentration and commitment.
You're right of course but the trouble is you have to sort several jokers from the pack
and someone in the recent past seems to have removed half the Aces.
It would be a new game. Deal them cards.
 

HotspurFC1950

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I think our problem areas would be GK and the CB's but we would look something like this:

Prichard Kane Townsend

Bentaleb Carroll Mason

Rose Veljkovic ????? Fredericks

?????​

If we played Vertonghen and Dier at CB and Lloris in goal I think we'd probably finish mid table.


Carter-Vickers.
 
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