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Sweech

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So you will caveat Burnley for Trippier but you won't caveat Bournemouth for Smith , is it ?
What?!

You said we bought Trippier when he was an "unremarkable fullback" - your words.

I state the case that no he was quite remarkable in that he was very high in the league for chances created. The table was literally a bunch of the league's top no. 10's like Ozil and Eriksen with Trippier in the midst. Smith has no such singlularly amazing talent that seperates him in such a way.

Then you make a case of how he did at Tottenham which is inconsequential as we bought him off of Burnley. Where, again, you said he was unremarkable. It has sweet eff all to do with how he's done here so far as your point which I refuted had to do with when we had bought him.
 

Sweech

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Bournemouth plays very similar to how Spurs play but with poorer players. So why shouldnt there be a comparison ?
Soooo with poorer players they aren't really going to play all that similarly to us are they?

This isn't an argument this is me stating fact. Tackles and interceptions are poor statistical markers to judge players by.
 

arunspurs

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Soooo with poorer players they aren't really going to play all that similarly to us are they?

This isn't an argument this is me stating fact. Tackles and interceptions are poor statistical markers to judge players by.

So according to your expert view, which statistics should we use to judge a player ?
 

arunspurs

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What?!

You said we bought Trippier when he was an "unremarkable fullback" - your words.

I state the case that no he was quite remarkable in that he was very high in the league for chances created. The table was literally a bunch of the league's top no. 10's like Ozil and Eriksen with Trippier in the midst. Smith has no such singlularly amazing talent that seperates him in such a way.

Then you make a case of how he did at Tottenham which is inconsequential as we bought him off of Burnley. Where, again, you said he was unremarkable. It has sweet eff all to do with how he's done here so far as your point which I refuted had to do with when we had bought him.

No , I said, when we bought Trippier, many others said similar things like average unremarkable and I used that to show not to quote the same 'unremarkable' on Smith as well

Edit : Sorry, that phrase was used by WiganSpur
 

arunspurs

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Smith is not a average player like many make out here. He has had a brilliant season for Bournemouth. For all the talk of Walker being the best RB, Smith has shown more end product than Walker, having played for a inferior team.

Trippier is a far better attacking player at this time. Hence , why not Smith as his competitior/backup ?

KWP, for me has to earn his stripes before being touted as someone who could qualify for match day 18. He need to have a good preseason for starters.

I am sure there will other RBs out there. But I am not sure how many of those would be willing to accept a bench role.
 

THFCSPURS19

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Smith is not a average player like many make out here. He has had a brilliant season for Bournemouth. For all the talk of Walker being the best RB, Smith has shown more end product than Walker, having played for a inferior team.

Trippier is a far better attacking player at this time. Hence , why not Smith as his competitior/backup ?

KWP, for me has to earn his stripes before being touted as someone who could qualify for match day 18. He need to have a good preseason for starters.

I am sure there will other RBs out there. But I am not sure how many of those would be willing to accept a bench role.
If we sign a RB who will definitely be on the bench then I see no reason why we shouldn't stick with KWP. If Walker goes, we should sign a RB who is at least as good as Trippier.
 

arunspurs

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If we sign a RB who will definitely be on the bench then I see no reason why we shouldn't stick with KWP. If Walker goes, we should sign a RB who is at least as good as Trippier.

I believe Smith can compete with Trippier & believe is a more rounded RB than him.
As for as KWP, can we stop bigging him up atleast untill he plays 1 game for us at RB in preseason.
 

Sweech

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Smith is not a average player like many make out here. He has had a brilliant season for Bournemouth. For all the talk of Walker being the best RB, Smith has shown more end product than Walker, having played for a inferior team.

Trippier is a far better attacking player at this time. Hence , why not Smith as his competitior/backup ?

KWP, for me has to earn his stripes before being touted as someone who could qualify for match day 18. He need to have a good preseason for starters.

I am sure there will other RBs out there. But I am not sure how many of those would be willing to accept a bench role.
And how's he going to do that with two RBs constantly placed in front of him?
 

ardiles

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Winks showed his quality against Juve & Atletico in preseason. Lets see how KWP does this preseason before jumping to any conclusions...

To be fair, Poch sees more of the players than us fans and, as you say, we, as fans, shouldn't be jumping to any conclusions, that should Walker leave, whether KWP is a suitable back up for Trippier or that another RB (Smith or any other) should be brought in.

Whatever Poch decides is fine by me as he is in a better position to decide.
 

allatsea

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We surely can't be interested in Smith if we are seeking either a replacement for Walker or a better player than Trippier. Smith is a good mid table type player nothing more.
 

yido_number1

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We surely can't be interested in Smith if we are seeking either a replacement for Walker or a better player than Trippier. Smith is a good mid table type player nothing more.

Smith is 26 aswell. For continuity I would expect us to be looking to sign someone younger than Trippier so they can grow to their peak. Signing Smith who is same age as Trippier and around the peak of his game doesn't make much sense.

I think the RB signing will be one that comes late in the window if at all. Poch will probably want a good look at KWP during preseason to see what he has and then make a decision. Also no guarantee Walker is off. It's highly likely but I don't think it is 100% yet.
 

Spurrific

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Smith is not a average player like many make out here. He has had a brilliant season for Bournemouth. For all the talk of Walker being the best RB, Smith has shown more end product than Walker, having played for a inferior team.

Trippier is a far better attacking player at this time. Hence , why not Smith as his competitior/backup ?

KWP, for me has to earn his stripes before being touted as someone who could qualify for match day 18. He need to have a good preseason for starters.

I am sure there will other RBs out there. But I am not sure how many of those would be willing to accept a bench role.

Yes he is.
 

DJS

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I didn't want us to let Smith go and was disappointed when we did.

Wouldn't be against it but get the feeling KWP has potential to be better and we need to take risk on him rather than blocking his path.
 

THFCSPURS19

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This is very interesting. @Bus-Conductor

Martin Eastwood‏@penaltyblog 23h23 hours ago
And by popular request, here's the players most similar to Kyle Walker last season @masroorhussnain pic.twitter.com/MZ0tilVMZR

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ChristianBaler

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We didn't pay anything for him. He was at the club when he was 7. If you meant 'more than what we were paid by Bournemouth', things have changed dramatically in the past 3 years and transfer fees have gone through the roof. We would be paying Bournemouth for developing him into a Premiership player.

My comment was in regards to what we paid for Trippier.

Wouldn't make much sense for the club to spend 10 million + (that's a guess) on a player who wouldn't be a first team regular and block the path of our best academy perspective in KWP
 
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