Adama Traore

[Gloryhunter]

when we signed Bryan who has similar strength and another winger isn't a must.

Not so sure about the stregnth matching Traore.

 

[andrewt]

Not so sure about the stregnth matching Traore.

Maybe Gill is scrappy then and traore Scooby doo?

 

[Chimbo!]

Practising defending against Traore in training every day will make all our defenders a lot better. Another reason why he’d be a great signing.

 

[Ranjeet]

Bruno Lage: Wolves boss on Adama Traore future, brother Luis joining coaching staff and Transfer Deadline Day

Bruno Lage talks to Sky Sports about Adama Traore, Wolves transfer hopes, brother Luis Nascimento joining his coaching staff and his love of Transfer Deadline Day; watch Wolves vs Man Utd live on Sky Sports Premier League on Sunday from 4pm; kick-off at 4.30pm

www.skysports.com

Does seem that something will happen with Traore before deadline day , especially with this quote from Lage

"Of course, we want to keep Adama. We are doing well, but we are few in number, we need more players. I don't think about anyone leaving, I want to think about guys coming in."

 

[ProfCalculus]

Still not seeing this signing and hoping that we put the funds elsewhere, so I'd be hoping that if it drags on for more than tomorrow without looking probable that we pass on it and put the cash towards someone else. None of us want to see us end up in a protracted transfer at this point in the window because it's clear that it'll be holding up other potential deals if that ends up being the case, and it's clearly not as simple as we'd have hoped.

He is amazing at his one dimension, but it really only seems to be the one dimension, and I would love us to sign players with better baked in creativity than someone who I see as an amazing role player, but for more money than such a player warrants. A lot of that money has to be loaded into the fact we think he'll learn to eventually have a better end product, but it's one that Nuno couldn't find in him at Wolves, and that he's been criticised for his entire career. I just don't find brute forcing your way around people exciting in general, personally, and would far rather watch players with innate skilful creativity in passing. That was always my issue with Sissoko. Watching Bryan yesterday was a joy. I think that's what we should be aiming for more of.

Rather Adama than nobody, so if we do quickly close this then great, but ideally rather someone with more immediate end product than Adama if poss.

Great post. He is incredibly one dimensional. He’s an r2 button. That’s what I’ve been sad about regarding our interest. It’s basically like signing a very expensive super sub. He does create chaos but has zero vision, guile, intelligence, passing, creativity, teamwork, technique striking teh ball, first touch and plays with his head down, 100% of the time. There’s a reason his numbers are absolutely appalling.

He does have tremendous upside as a runner but I don’t know. He does the same thing every single time and he doesn’t understand or feel the game so yiu don’t see him making any intelligent runs… just drop deep, wait, gimme the ball so I can run at them. He’s kind of like throwing popping candy in a meal. I don’t see a footballer. 20 percent of one. The weird thing is it’s 20 percent of an incredible one but it’s still 20 percent and I think people get dazzled by that. His game is so focused on running blindly with the ball that he actually kind of holds up and looks like he’s having to concentrate really hard or enter a different mode whenever he has to do something else like shoot or pass.

i feel the same as you and it’s why I like Damsgaard who has everything.

Edit: i don’t care about ratings. My fellows are accustomed to the misplaced ire of our contemporaries u_u But LOL at being so threatened by a differing opinion that you need to hit spam as a superlative of disagree.

 

[E17yid]

I’m looking at this as a win-win scenario now. He’s not a player I really rate and not massively keen on getting so if we don’t I’ll be happy. Having said that, there is a bit of me that is intrigued to see how he goes so if we do pull it off the optimist in me will be excited to see him don the chicken badge.

 

[TheTanguy]

Practising defending against Traore in training every day will make all our defenders a lot better. Another reason why he’d be a great signing.

I think you will learn a lot more from defending against players with great vision, movement and passing like Bryan Gil. Everybody knows after a couple of training sessions what Traore is trying to do.

 

[WePlayWednesday]

Great post. He is incredibly one dimensional. He’s an r2 button. That’s what I’ve been sad about regarding our interest. It’s basically like signing a very expensive super sub. He does create chaos but has zero vision, guile, intelligence, passing, creativity, teamwork, technique striking teh ball, first touch and plays with his head down, 100% of the time. There’s a reason his numbers are absolutely appalling.

He does have tremendous upside as a runner but I don’t know. He does the same thing every single time and he doesn’t understand or feel the game so yiu don’t see him making any intelligent runs… just drop deep, wait, gimme the ball so I can run at them. He’s kind of like throwing popping candy in a meal. I don’t see a footballer. 20 percent of one. The weird thing is it’s 20 percent of an incredible one but it’s still 20 percent and I think people get dazzled by that. His game is so focused on running blindly with the ball that he actually kind of holds up and looks like he’s having to concentrate really hard or enter a different mode whenever he has to do something else like shoot or pass.

i feel the same as you and it’s why I like Damsgaard who has everything.

Edit: i don’t care about ratings. My fellows are accustomed to the misplaced ire of our contemporaries u_u But LOL at being so threatened by a differing opinion that you need to hit spam as a superlative of disagree.

I think it’s really good that you’re not afraid of controversy, and I agree with quite a lot of what you say. I was definitely in the don’t sign him camp until quite recently.

It’s actually the very qualities you identify in him - the 20% as you put it, which make him interesting. Take teams like Brighton, Burnley, Palarse. They have in the past sat back against us and we’ve found it tough to get a goal, even when totally dominating the game.

A blunt instrument like Adama could cause chaos which allows Son to get a chance, or Lo Celso to be able to find space and slide a pass in to Kane. He could somehow be the difference between a draw and a win. It wouldn’t be first time an unlikely player went to a top team and did well…

 

[Colston]

I think you will learn a lot more from defending against players with great vision, movement and passing like Bryan Gil. Everybody knows after a couple of training sessions what Traore is trying to do.

Knowing what Traore will do and having the strength or technique to actually deal with it are two very different things.

I mean, every defender in the league already knows what he will do yet he is still one of the best players in the league at beating defenders..

It's like Dembele, you know? He was not Cristiano Ronaldo of speedy dribbles or fancy technique, but he had a way of protecting the ball with his immense strength that made him the best ball carrier I have ever seen. You could know what he was gonna do 20 minutes in advance and you still couldn't stop him because you're just not strong enough or quick enough. You bounce off like someone trying to shoulder charge a concrete wall. If signing him would make our defenders more capable of dealing with that sort of ultimate weapon, that would be priceless.

 

[spursville]

Presumably there are reasons (in addition to the stats) why nobody in the top 6 or 7 clubs have been desperate to sign him.

 

[Norvern Munkey]

Maybe nobody else wants to sign him because if he does score and everybody piles on him to congratulate him they will slide off like wet shit off a greased up finger... risk of injuries?

 

[TheTanguy]

Knowing what Traore will do and having the strength or technique to actually deal with it are two very different things.

I mean, every defender in the league already knows what he will do yet he is still one of the best players in the league at beating defenders..

That's fair enough, but he is pretty unique and one-dimensional, you will 'learn' that a very strong and extremely pacey player can beat you on pace and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it, but I think you will learn a lot more useful stuff from defending against clever footballers with great vision, good dribbling and passing like Bryan.

 

[olliec]

Is this back on at all or now dead. Desperate for us to push this through.

 

[carmeldevil]

Is this back on at all or now dead. Desperate for us to push this through.

Hopefully the process is being oiled to speed it up before Tuesday.

 

[Colston]

That's fair enough, but he is pretty unique and one-dimensional, you will 'learn' that a very strong and extremely pacey player can beat you on pace and there isn't a whole lot you can do about it, but I think you will learn a lot more from defending against clever footballers with great vision, good dribbling and passing.

Of course, I am not going to argue that knowing how to deal with clever players isn't just as important, but playmakers like that are dime and a dozen and playing against them is nothing special, happens pretty much every game where you meet quality opposition.

Traore is a freak of nature, probably the strongest footballer in the world, and having the ability to take the ball away from someone like that is experience you can't have any other way. The proper application of weight and force you need to be able to handle someone twice your size is something that can't be taught, it can only be learned through experience, and that's why I say that if he is able to raise the bar for what our defenders can handle, that shit is priceless.

 

[SA_Spurs]

Great post. He is incredibly one dimensional. He’s an r2 button. That’s what I’ve been sad about regarding our interest. It’s basically like signing a very expensive super sub. He does create chaos but has zero vision, guile, intelligence, passing, creativity, teamwork, technique striking teh ball, first touch and plays with his head down, 100% of the time. There’s a reason his numbers are absolutely appalling.

He does have tremendous upside as a runner but I don’t know. He does the same thing every single time and he doesn’t understand or feel the game so yiu don’t see him making any intelligent runs… just drop deep, wait, gimme the ball so I can run at them. He’s kind of like throwing popping candy in a meal. I don’t see a footballer. 20 percent of one. The weird thing is it’s 20 percent of an incredible one but it’s still 20 percent and I think people get dazzled by that. His game is so focused on running blindly with the ball that he actually kind of holds up and looks like he’s having to concentrate really hard or enter a different mode whenever he has to do something else like shoot or pass.

i feel the same as you and it’s why I like Damsgaard who has everything.

Edit: i don’t care about ratings. My fellows are accustomed to the misplaced ire of our contemporaries u_u But LOL at being so threatened by a differing opinion that you need to hit spam as a superlative of disagree.

don't understand coveting a playing who'e never played in EPL but rubbishing one who has absolutely terrorised every PL team he's played against, bar none. At this rate we may as well want every player NOT proven in the EPL! Of course, I've no doubt if Damsgard fails, then we will say he made it in a foreign league that's no good. I'd be having Adama 10/10 over Damsgaard (even as a 1 trick pony!)

 

[EireYid]

I don't know why, but I really want this to happen.

 

[brasil_spur]

Presumably there are reasons (in addition to the stats) why nobody in the top 6 or 7 clubs have been desperate to sign him.

City: Just spent £100m on a Grealish and have about 28 other attacking wide players like him.
Utd: Just spent £73m on Sanco and have about 5 other similar players including Ronaldo now.
Liverpool: Don't seem interested in signing players right now but are well covered in this area of the pitch.
Chelsea: Again pretty well covered in this area of the pitch and spent £100m on Lukaku.

After that we're the most obvious club that needs someone in the wide position. I get that Son is first choice LW, but he'll be rotating a bit with Kane IMO and also Traore can play on the RW.

Adding to this that Nuno clearly rates him and know's how he'll fit into our team/squad and we really are the obvious choice for him right now and it's not surprising that there aren't other clubs going heavily in for him.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I think you will learn a lot more from defending against players with great vision, movement and passing like Bryan Gil. Everybody knows after a couple of training sessions what Traore is trying to do.

Yet still can't/won't be able to stop him.

 

[Rob]

Who says no one else is in for him? Maybe his relationship with Nino is the big factor?