Alfie Mawson

[coys200]

RCB - Alderweireld, Carter-Vickers
CB - Dier
LCB - Vertonghen, Mawson/Wimmer

5 CB's for a decent amount of depth. I actually think we're one short, but not a top tier player, just a promising backup project to Dier, someone capable of switching between CB and cover for Wanyama.
Suppose realistically, if Dier needs to move into DM if Wanyama is not available, it'd just be Toby or Jan into the middle, with CCV or Mawson/Wimmer coming in.

5 is more than enough.Id say we will play 3 at back in about 50% of games.you also have Davies who can play in a 3 comfortably and wanyama in an emergency.And in an absolute emergency we have some very good kids in U18s who are big and strong.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

I would be rather underwhelmed if we signed Mawson. We're a team that is chasing the championship and don't see Mawson as that missing link in any guise.

 

[Shadydan]

I would be rather underwhelmed if we signed Mawson. We're a team that is chasing the championship and don't see Mawson as that missing link in any guise.

I heard we called Jerome Boateng but he turned us down and wrote us a nice letter in response.

 

[coys200]

I would be rather underwhelmed if we signed Mawson. We're a team that is chasing the championship and don't see Mawson as that missing link in any guise.

Mawson is s better defender than dier.We have an established CB pairing probably best in league.We aren't gonna sign a vvd type for £50m to sit on bench most of season makes no sense.No other team in EPL has 3 absolute top drawCB .to have 2 and a very promising younger player is perfect imo.

 

[Darrkespur]

I would be rather underwhelmed if we signed Mawson. We're a team that is chasing the championship and don't see Mawson as that missing link in any guise.

Mawson is exactly the kind of player we should be going for, imho. Young, English and with lots of potential to improve. The idea of bringing in someone like Van Dijk when we have Alderweireld and Vertonghen and don't always play with a three is not plausible for me. let's bring in someone young and hungry who will take their opportunities when they come and could grow into the next star in a few years.

 

[heelspurs]

I did include a link to a very good Guardian article on page 3. You should read it, particularly this:
Mawson has no intention of letting that happen. He talks at length about his thirst for knowledge and desire to improve, explaining that he once played an entire reserve game for Brentford using only his weaker left foot.

Yeah, I am aware of that article from a few months back. As that is not a quote one could conclude from the other evidence that the author 'assumed' which was his weaker foot. But I wouldn't want to impugn the professionalism of the English sports media. We are reminded of their impeccable standards daily and therefore should take everything they write as gospel.

Transfermarkt has him listed as a left-footed player however. Now I am not prepared to place their info in the Canon either but it does jibe with his play on the field. But as I said his use of his left foot as a natural right footer makes him a fine 2 footed player.

But his 'footedness' has less of a bearing on matters than his favored or best position. He plays on the left for club and country so why would you assume we "might find him on the right" for us? Irrespective of his footedness we haven't found him on the right thus far. What evidence is there to assume that would change with us? You're utilizing the purported dominant foot of what can only be concluded as a quality 2 footed player as justification. John Terry is right-footed, plays left-sided, and we never find him on the right. There may be an exception here or there but it comes down to a player's favored/best position...and, of course, the teams immediate need.

 

[Mouse!]

Also Mawson is exactly the kind of character we're looking for. When you read his interviews you can't help but be impressed by how grounded and mature he is for someone his age.

 

[littlewilly]

Just a pure hunch but perhaps we could see Dier leave this window and were now bringing Mawson in as defensive reinforcements, instead of replacing Wimmer.

It'd fit with the potential meltdown that's being teased cos shit will hit the fan if Dier leaves.

Yeah, I am aware of that article from a few months back. As that is not a quote one could conclude from the other evidence that the author 'assumed' which was his weaker foot. But I wouldn't want to impugn the professionalism of the English sports media. We are reminded of their impeccable standards daily and therefore should take everything they write as gospel.

Transfermarkt has him listed as a left-footed player however. Now I am not prepared to place their info in the Canon either but it does jibe with his play on the field. But as I said his use of his left foot as a natural right footer makes him a fine 2 footed player.

But his 'footedness' has less of a bearing on matters than his favored or best position. He plays on the left for club and country so why would you assume we "might find him on the right" for us? Irrespective of his footedness we haven't found him on the right thus far. What evidence is there to assume that would change with us? You're utilizing the purported dominant foot of what can only be concluded as a quality 2 footed player as justification. John Terry is right-footed, plays left-sided, and we never find him on the right. There may be an exception here or there but it comes down to a player's favored/best position...and, of course, the teams immediate need.

Oh dear. I'm happy to pull out of the conversation, although you could also read:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-comfortable-foot-grounding-pivotal-club.html
"He is right-footed but will use his left when necessary in a tight situation."

 

[THFCSPURS19]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/07/manchester-united-still-pursuing-eric-dier-spurs/

Having missed out on Michael Keane, who joined Everton, Tottenham have seen one bid turned down for Swansea City’s Alfie Mawson and are now considering another offer.

Swansea want £30m for England Under-21 international Mawson, but Spurs could try to offer Josh Onomah on loan to the Welsh club as part of a lower bid.

 

[heelspurs]

Oh dear. I'm happy to pull out of the conversation, although you could also read:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...-comfortable-foot-grounding-pivotal-club.html
"He is right-footed but will use his left when necessary in a tight situation."

I don't really care which is his dominant foot. My issue is you made this statement:

Why do we assume he's a LCB?

Can't argue with that but he is right-footed so, for us, you might find him on the right.

No one assumes he is a LCB...his is, or at least thus far has been, a LCB. You say you "can't argue with that" but proceed to do just that based on a factoid. Fair enough, he is right-footed and we "might" find him on the right. Do you know how many times we found him on the right in his 31 professional appearances with Swansea and Barnsley last year? The answer is 3 (whoscored). Three times he was found playing on the right side of a re-jiggered defense during the 7 game stretch that will henceforth be known as "The Bob Bradley Years". So at Barnsley, Swansea, and the U21s he is LCB so those of us that see him as a LCB don't 'assume' he is a LCB. At the least it is a presumption and more than reasonable. You "assume" he will play RCB because of his putative dominant foot, which is a reason, but considering all the other evidence it is less than reasonable.

Either way he is a decent player and I wouldn't feel negatively about his recruitment.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

wait 30 million? Yet 20 million is too much for Wimmer ...

Football is becoming funnier than some stand ups.

 

[heelspurs]

wait 30 million? Yet 20 million is too much for Wimmer ...

Football is becoming funnier than some stand ups.

Absolutely. It is even more ridiculous when you consider the reported number Everton are to pay for Siggy (32M). Maybe they just know DL from the Siggy negotiations and figure they should start really high lest they leave with a few Ryanair vouchers and some crisps.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Also Mawson is exactly the kind of character we're looking for. When you read his interviews you can't help but be impressed by how grounded and mature he is for someone his age.

I think you are mistaking him for Alfie Moon!

 

[littlewilly]

I don't really care which is his dominant foot. My issue is you made this statement:





No one assumes he is a LCB...his is, or at least thus far has been, a LCB. You say you "can't argue with that" but proceed to do just that based on a factoid. Fair enough, he is right-footed and we "might" find him on the right. Do you know how many times we found him on the right in his 31 professional appearances with Swansea and Barnsley last year? The answer is 3 (whoscored). Three times he was found playing on the right side of a re-jiggered defense during the 7 game stretch that will henceforth be known as "The Bob Bradley Years". So at Barnsley, Swansea, and the U21s he is LCB so those of us that see him as a LCB don't 'assume' he is a LCB. At the least it is a presumption and more than reasonable. You "assume" he will play RCB because of his putative dominant foot, which is a reason, but considering all the other evidence it is less than reasonable.

Either way he is a decent player and I wouldn't feel negatively about his recruitment.

Jeepers creepers. You sure love a debate!

Tottenham (today) tend to play predominately right-footed CBs (Toby, Eric) as RCBs; and predominately left-footed CBs (Jan, Kevin) as LCBs. I am simply making the point that Alfie is right-footed and it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Tottenham (today) might just play him as a RCB.

 

[Hercules]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2017/07/07/manchester-united-still-pursuing-eric-dier-spurs/

Having missed out on Michael Keane, who joined Everton, Tottenham have seen one bid turned down for Swansea City’s Alfie Mawson and are now considering another offer.

Swansea want £30m for England Under-21 international Mawson, but Spurs could try to offer Josh Onomah on loan to the Welsh club as part of a lower bid.

Josh going out on loan? News to me.

 

[hughy]

Josh going out on loan? News to me.

I'd like to keep a selection of youngsters and ensure they get time in their natural positions next season under Poch. Onomah would be one of them.

 

[Clark28]

I'd like to keep a selection of youngsters and ensure they get time in their natural positions next season under Poch. Onomah would be one of them.

same here, Josh is a year younger than Winks, so I'd hope that this coming season he can step up like Harry did last season.

if Poch subs him on as a winger I'll start throwing stuff at the TV

 

[THFCSPURS19]

I've seen quite a lot of people moaning about out interest in Mawson. Our most effective signings have been players that have done well for English clubs, yet whenever we're linked with a PL player people moan, but our interest in non-PL players gets a much less negative reaction.

 

[danielneeds]

I've seen quite a lot of people moaning about out interest in Mawson. Our most effective signings have been players that have done well for English clubs, yet whenever we're linked with a PL player people moan, but our interest in non-PL players gets a much less negative reaction.

The fact is more people regularly see PL players - and can see their weaknesses - which all players have. Foreign players carry an air of mystery, and even if it's in a league that's televised over here, players often aren't as harshly tested as in the PL.

 

[heelspurs]

Jeepers creepers. You sure love a debate!

Tottenham (today) tend to play predominately right-footed CBs (Toby, Eric) as RCBs; and predominately left-footed CBs (Jan, Kevin) as LCBs. I am simply making the point that Alfie is right-footed and it is not beyond the realms of possibility that Tottenham (today) might just play him as a RCB.

Play the ball not the man. I am not averse to debate but wouldn't say I 'love' it. What I do 'love' is people expressing themselves clearly and reasonably in a well constructed manner. I believe it fosters a good communal vibe on boards and IRL. But I can definitely say something I dislike several orders of magnitude more than debate and that is unsubstantiated or ill-informed opinion passing as fact (truly not pointing fingers). Now if you had said "I think he may be able to do a job on the right, if called on, since that is his dominant side" (similar to you last sentence in this post) then I would have been foolish to pick at that. Not only would it have been only opinion, and proffered as such, but it would have been informative as well. Instead you took the tack of finding fault with everyone else saying LCB while holding back the punch of he is right-footed. Were it in the same post it would not have been so off-putting.

Fair play to you though. I shant bother you again on this matter.