Am I the only one that thinks £18m for Keane is actually good business??

[alextheyid]

18m? Bite their hands off.

:bs:..when there's a player as consistent as Keane over last three years in a fairly average spurs team..large sums of money will be thrown at him..he is worth the money and difficult to replace!

 

[Legend10]

:bs:..when there's a player as consistent as Keane over last three years in a fairly average spurs team..large sums of money will be thrown at him..he is worth the money and difficult to replace!

In the last 2 seasons he has played alongside a dream of a strike partner.

 

[mikeygold]

it is good money for a player of his ability however he is a player i feel all spurs fans have a special relationship with due to the fact he always gives his all. But then because of how much he has given to us i feel we should for the rigt money let him follow his dream of playing for liverpool and winning trophies with the(if possible). I for one felt bad when he was saying how proud of his carling cup medal he was because i do think in different circumstances he could have bin a winner of many medals say his time at inter went better. Whatever happens i wont ever boo robbie keane bu i will feel bad if he scores against us

 

[southlondonyiddo]

As said it's only good business if we end up signing a replacement that works out better than what Keano gave us. Not too many about but If we are willing to sell then Ramos must have a plan and a vision that will improve us.

 

[Johnny Hotrod]

like carrick's sale?

Carrick's sale was great business IF we'd have bought in a decent replacement - we didnt & that lack of quality affected the team in a big way!

The Keane situation is very similar, it enables us to bring in a better quality replacement but will only be a good deal if we spend the money well - something we have not always been quilty of!

 

[mackay59]

18 mill should buy someone far better than keano..........but who ?

 

[ChRiStOpHe]

Brilliant business. In football manager terms, Keane is a good player. If we're still talking Football Manager terms, Arshavin and Villa would both be a leading star for most Premier League teams. I like Keano, don't get me wrong. But I've never thought he was good enough to warrent a place in a team who had genuine hope of a title challenge, whereas both Arshavin and Villa would. £18m for a 29 year old who's not even top class in my opinion is a brilliant price. If we can replace him with a higher quality of player, even at a greater price than £18m, it's an upgrade to the team.

Another point that tRiKS brushed upon... who's to say this is actually going to strengthen Liverpool? I've been hearing nothing but, "we shouldn't be selling to the team we're hoping to challenge this season". I'm probably one of the few that thinks this deal could actually weaken Liverpool. tRiKS was spot on when he suggested this may well force Liverpool into a 4-4-2. Keane is also (and this is opinion here) not top class, so they're only adding a good player to their ranks. On top of that, their budget in now gone. We on the other hand still have money to play with, as well as a another £18m on top of that.

Also, RE: Carrick. We never replaced Carrick, and at the time, we weren't in a position to sign a big name like Modric etc to replace him, albeit with a slightly altered system. As it was, we had to get the best of the rest, and brought in Didier Zokora. I like Zoko-pops, but he's no Michael Carrick. If we do get the reported £18m, and Keane does move, I have 100% faith in JR, DC and DL to bring in an even better replacement.

 

[Class1987]

:bs:..when there's a player as consistent as Keane over last three years in a fairly average spurs team..large sums of money will be thrown at him..he is worth the money and difficult to replace!

And in that average team, there was Berbatov who can make anyone alongside him look better. Berbatov+Defoe good, Berbatov+Keane a bit better, Keane+Defoe awful, and I'm sure Berbatov+Bent should work out fine too if Berba is to stay.

 

[camaj]

It's great business, except we're in the football business, not the money making business.

If we can replace him and berba with two equal or better strikers, fair enough. But that's a big "if". Even if we buy two players that are "quality" there's no guarentee those players are going to do well at Spurs. Also given the changes to the team, it's hard to say whether a player that equals their goal-tally is better since I expected more goals from our two this year. Any comparison won't be like for like.

 

[ballingarry]

It's great business, except we're in the football business, not the money making business.

If we can replace him and berba with two equal or better strikers, fair enough. But that's a big "if". Even if we buy two players that are "quality" there's no guarentee those players are going to do well at Spurs. Also given the changes to the team, it's hard to say whether a player that equals their goal-tally is better since I expected more goals from our two this year. Any comparison won't be like for like.

Agree 100%, hope he flops at liverpool!!

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Personally I couldn't believe that Liverpool would pay 18mil. If we are going to change the way we play then it's fantastic business. My criticisms of Keane are documented on here, but that doesn't mean I was ever desperate to ofload him, just felt that if we were to crack the top 4 we need someone who not only can score goals (which keane can) but who plays with 100% effort every game (like Keane never does).

Robbie Keane is technically a very good striker who will always score goals. But his fear of contact means he will never ever fullfill his true potential.

And I'm not just talking about tackling or pressing defenders when they have the ball. He is scared to receive the ball, or hold and carry the ball where he may get tackled. This results in the continual break down of possession. Several goals against last season stemmed from Keane conceding possession to cheaply.

Keane created 10 goals in three seasons. An incredibly low assist rate for a player with his technical ability who played nowhere except in and around the opposition box. Berbatov created that in one season.

For me Keane is a player who plays for himself, not for the team. Sometimes that has been a good thing and in strikers that is sometimes a great thing. And I'm sure if Benitez plays him he will score goals. But we need to bridge that gap and we need 100% players all over the park, or supremely talented ones (like Berbatov) whose sheer ability will compensate for the odd off day. Keane didn't quite fit into either catagory for me. But was close.


I would really liked to keep in in the squad but ideally used him a bit less.

 

[Bingy]

What most people are forgetting is that Keano is a PROVEN International player...and of many years standing. The Inter years were political more than failure, on RK's part. Wrong place....wrong time.
Have no doubt that IF RK was English the press would have built him up as being WORLD CLASS...a World Beater....you know the story....but no need to elaborate!
Keano will, IF he moves, entertain a new batch of adoring supporters....but this time in RED? I feel a Club V Favorite Son brewing up and, although I will never forget his input to 'WHLville' there is only ONE THFC....end of....COYS

 

[ballingarry]

What most people are forgetting is that Keano is a PROVEN International player...and of many years standing. The Inter years were political more than failure, on RK's part. Wrong place....wrong time.
Have no doubt that IF RK was English the press would have built him up as being WORLD CLASS...a World Beater....you know the story....but no need to elaborate!
Keano will, IF he moves, entertain a new batch of adoring supporters....but this time in RED? I feel a Club V Favorite Son brewing up and, although I will never forget his input to 'WHLville' there is only ONE THFC....end of....COYS

He can piss off to liverpool all he wants, hope hes a complete flop!!

 

[flatback4]

Irrespective of whether he's a **** or a diamond; whether he's selfish or a team player; lazy or workaholic; avoids contact or gets stuck in, fact is he's guaranteed to get you 20-odd goals a season - and not many strikers at the top level will do that year-in/out. He's proven Prem and Intnl quality and you don't have to like him to accept that.

If he does go to Liverpool - good luck to him. He's been a good servant to the club. In return, we'll get 18-mil or thereabouts. What's that, a 300% return on our investment over 6 years ? Seems good business to me - esp if that money buys Villa.

 

[The Apprentice]

I'll drive him there for 18 large.

 

[zepstar]

It's a great bit of buisness is we can get 18 mil for him. I believe good things will come out of Keane leaving. Ramos will want to play his own way, and perhaps with keane out the picture, he will draft in a striker he actually want's rather than one he aquired.

 

[Legend10]

Its not good business, it's incredible business.

 

[Sicknote]

Depends on what squad we have come the first game of the season whether it's good business or not. Keane out, £18m in, Villa in ~£25m out would be brilliant business.

 

[StockSpur]

if we get villa to replace him then yes, the wages are better spent on the younger far more talented bloke

 

[yiddopaul]

it is good money for a player of his ability however he is a player i feel all spurs fans have a special relationship with due to the fact he always gives his all. But then because of how much he has given to us i feel we should for the rigt money let him follow his dream of playing for liverpool and winning trophies with the(if possible). I for one felt bad when he was saying how proud of his carling cup medal he was because i do think in different circumstances he could have bin a winner of many medals say his time at inter went better. Whatever happens i wont ever boo robbie keane bu i will feel bad if he scores against us

I don't want either keano or Berbs to win trophies with there respective clubs (certainly, not domestic cups), as this means we won't be winning them. I really do hope keane plays extremely well and is happy at 'pool, just don't want him being TOO successful, because that means that 'pool are being successful...and that sticks in my throat as i hate them.