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He's been trolling all tournament. I just ignore him.You must get your gear from incredibly close to the source
He's been trolling all tournament. I just ignore him.You must get your gear from incredibly close to the source
No I suspect not, I just wasn't sure what could happen if it persisted so I checked the rules out.No ref will ever has that balls to do that, not to an Argentina with Messi especially.
No ref will ever has that balls to do that, not to an Argentina with Messi especially.
I agree with you about the skill levels of Messi many of which were on display in this WC. His assist for the 3rd goal against Croatia in the semi final was a sublime example of what he is capable of. He’s on a different level.
Nevertheless this is the first year in his international career, which spans, what 18 years, in which he has helped Argentina to win trophies- Copa America and now The World Cup. It has to be said that as well as he’s played in this WC and todays final he was ably supported by some outstanding performances from team mates especially MacAllister, De Paul and Fernandez in midfield and the selfless running of Alvarez.
The reason I believe Maradona
is the greatest of all time is not down purely to his skill level but rather to his charismatic ability to basically put an average team on his back and carry them to victory. It’s easy for a great player to display his greatness when he is surrounded by really good players but it is an exceptionally great player who can use his skill and personality to carry a team of average players to glory. That’s what Maradona did with Naples leading them to their only 2 league titles, the first one part of a league and cup double, plus a European trophy.
That’s what he did In the 1986 WC where he not only led Argentina to victory, dominating all of their team stats but completely dominated the whole tournament like no other player has ever done before or since. Without being anywhere near his best he nearly inspired Argentina to victory in the 1990 WC only losing to West Germany in the Final through a very controversial penalty.
Messi is a great player, the likes of which we are unlikely to see again and I was really pleased to see him deservedly win the WC but he has never had the charismatic effect on a team or tournament that Maradona did.
Forget Hand of God, Goal of the Century epitomizes Maradona. I’ve probably watched it 100 times and it’s a perfect illustration of Maradona’s skill. If that goal was scored today it would be front page news everywhere. Messi has done a lot of amazing things and his case for GOAT is incredibly strong but once you see the Goal of the Century you’ll be thinking twice about it.
It's been incredible. I can still hear people singing out in the street as I write. And the wife is at the Obelisk. Players come home tomorrow and will coach around the whole city. And it's been decreed a bank holiday.In pictures: Argentina celebrates as Messi joins Maradona in bringing home World Cup
Millions of Argentinians breathed a collective sigh of relief after their side's dramatic World Cup win - before letting loose on the streets of Buenos Aires in celebration.news.sky.com
Just once I want us to win the World Cup so I can experience something like this.
Dibu's psychologist is one of the most popular people in the country at the moment.No I suspect not, I just wasn't sure what could happen if it persisted so I checked the rules out.
Maybe the refs warn goalkeepers that if they continue to do this amd ignore warnings then that's what can happen, because Martinez definitely refrained from it after the yellow card was given to him. As you said, I doubt very much whether the ref would have actually carried out the threat, but maybe the bluff is enough to stop it.
That all said, nothing should take away the fact that his excellent performance certainly tipped the scales Argentina's way. Some of the France players looked as awkward taking them as some of the England players were in the Euro final against Italy. So there is very much something that can be said that translates from the confident demeanour and psychology and mind games a goalkeeper can play at this stage. The body language of both sets of players at this very last stage could not have been more contrasting. Many of France players stepped up nervously and were clearly intimidated by the keeper and the occasion, whilst the Argentinian players positively embraced the pressure of the shoot out.
I'm sure Messi scored an almost identical goal.
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Yeah but Messi's is in a run of the mill league game they won at a canter and not the winning goal in a World Cup quarter final. Context matters IMO.Actually I think Messi’s is better.
Actually I think Messi’s is better.
Yeah but Messi's is in a run of the mill league game they won at a canter and not the winning goal in a World Cup quarter final. Context matters IMO.
And remember that the context of that goal was that the England team had just been mentally destroyed by one of the worst refereeing decisions of all time. Context definitely matters, but goes both ways.yup, have always thought that whilst a fabulous goal, the defending was utterly shambolic.
I'm sure Messi scored an almost identical goal.
Edit. Here you go. Sorry about the music.
...and Salt baeFIFA and the Qataris will take full credit for what the players did in the final hour today.