Match Threads Aston Villa Vs Spurs

[Mr Pink]

I think he's right tbh.

Sure, it's Villa's fault for missing all those chances, but when you allow a team to create that many decent chances against you, you have to count yourself lucky that none of them go in. If Ings is in slightly better form we'd be 2 or 3-1 down at half time. It was completely out of our control.

If we were making heroic last ditch blocks and preventing all the chances then that's good on our part - but that often wasn't the case. On at least 3 occasions we were saved by terrible finishing. Relying on terrible finishing from the opposition isn't the sign of a team in control - it requires luck.

It's essentially the opposite of the United game where we were the better team but were undone by incredible, clinical finishing. I think we were unlucky that day as 9 times out of 10 Ronaldo doesn't do that (as is clear if you've watched much of him this season - he's regularly shit).

But that's not the point I'm making.

I'm saying had they scored one of those chances it doesn't mean they would of gone on to win the game. It doesn't mean they would of continued to dominate at that stage of the game either.

We could of reacted strongly, it may have galvanised us. But Souness was implying that. There's so many variables to account for not to mention the psychology at different stages of the game.

And I don't think the United game is a great comparison but I get where you're going with that.

Yes we were the better side in that and they were clinical but I felt we were the superior side over the 90.

We were the better side over the 90 yesterday as well...not for being overly dominate...but for demonstrating devastating attacking football...as a team...not like the Ronaldo show (and banging in 30 yarders)

Were Villa unlucky not to score first half? Sure.

Doesn't mean they would of gone on to win and that's what he's implying.

 

[Nice One Cyril]

Absolutely spot on.

It's not for me to tell others what to do. But people seem to get so agitated about what opposition fans say, or what a certain pundit said on Sky Sports etc.

Don't watch it. Don't pay attention to whatever some nobody ex coke head has to say about a club he's now envious of.

Enjoy your fucking football club. Its going places!

Some of the pundits are still coke heads mate!

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Some of the pundits are still coke heads mate!

And I am envious of the gurning ****s.

 

[bozzaSPUR]

I like to think those 3CBs are all saying "our captain. Those ****s on Spurs Community have been saying he needs to go. Lol!"

They did that at the end of the Newcastle game as well - just those three. Shows great unity and togetherness which bodes well for the future.

 

[Barrd10]

Absolutely, the message for the second half was to stop fucking about with it at the back so the Villa press had nothing to press.

Which is wise words. I’m amazed how many teams persist playing out from the back when the other team at right at them.

 

[Navin R Johnson]

Which is wise words. I’m amazed how many teams persist playing out from the back when the other team at right at them.

It drives me mad that highly paid professionals can't see what's glaringly obvious to a numpty like me.

 

[rossdapep]

But we didn't get away with anything.

We have more clinical forwards, and are simply a more devastating attacking side.

And Souness implies had they scored they would of won the game.

He's no idea how we would of reacted and how the pattern of the game would of developed.

It's not like they battered us with gilt edged chances either. Hugo had some great moments but a lot of those efforts (reflected in the stats) I'd expect a keeper of his class to save.

On another day they probably do score, but who's to say that wouldn't of sparked a strong reaction from us and we go on to win 4-1 anyway.

I just don't agree with the 'we got away with it' mantra he's spouting.

Especially as had it have been Liverpool, United or Chelsea he'd be saying that that is what big teams do and that they deserved it in the end for being so ruthless.

Years ago we'd often have dozens of chances versus the likes of United and Chelsea, only to get stuffed. And the takeaway was "Have to take your chances".

I remember when United beat us 5-2 after we had been 2 up. We conceded a non-penalty and it gave United the lift. Zero sympathy we got that day, nope, it was totally about how United are winners.

That's all fair and good, but these pundits are not consistent sometimes and it can look like they are biased.

 

[muppetman]

Maybe, just possibly the pundits say this sort of nonsense to gain clicks and attention?

 

[Griff001]

I haven't read through the thread so it may have already been said, but have we seen that Conte has instilled a "Plan B" with the team??

First three goals came from long balls when passing through the press was not working. Just a random thought.

Yep I agree. They said as much on MOTD as well...we went longer in the first half and bypassed their high press, and it lead to our 2nd and 3rd goals.

 

[teedee]

Two or three late challenges very early on led to the Cash out of control tackle that took Doherty out. Mings then did an identical tackle on Deki. Referee didn't even give fouls. Late then on Reggie when he came on. A two footed through the air challenge by Ramsey, he got the ball but was way out of control. Then PEH gets a yellow for a Villa player pretending he was pulled back. The referee was way out of his depth yesterday.

And now Doherty is out for the remainder of the season apparently.

 

[spursram]

Just watched Sonny's 2nd goal from a different camera angle. That headed flick on from Kane to Son had a touch of Gilzean to Greaves about it. For those old enough to remember!

 

[newbie]

We did ride our luck a little in the first half. I think Gerrard was half right about no one being surprised if Villa had gone in at halftime 2 or 3-1 up. They certainly carved out a few good chances that on another day they may have converted. But if Villa had equalised the rhythm of match may have also changed. They may have dropped off a little and we may have pressed more. The early goal had an influence on how the first half played out. We could afford to sit back a bit knowing we would have chances on the break whilst the onus was on Villa, especially as the home side, to come at us.

The second half was completely different. Understandably and predictably Villa were unable to keep up the intensity of their first half performance and the early goal in the second half really took the wind out of their sails.

I think the difference in quality was there for all to see. We broke clinically and took our chances superbly. There was also some fantastic assists as well as goals. Villa by contrast were unable to make their chances pay and could not contain our attacking threat in the second half.

If felt like they trying to Kill the careers of some of our players let's not forget why the balance of the game shifted to villa, Doherty now has one leg, and wont play for the rest of the season, which is a shame as he was really playing well!

If the ref had given out cards to villa players early on I think it would have been a cricket score as we looked good from the kickoff till the leg-breaking tackles started rolling in.

p.s Romero is so good

 

[Serpico]

Villa should ashamed of themselves this morning- thugs , the first half was total thuggery . They were lucky not have a player sent off. We saw it at City. It must be in ( I believe it is) in Liverpool DNA.

 

[hughy]

Just watched Sonny's 2nd goal from a different camera angle. That headed flick on from Kane to Son had a touch of Gilzean to Greaves about it. For those old enough to remember!

All three of you.

 

[Serpico]

All three of you.

Watch Reggie celebrating before he scores , with arms aloft.

 

[Gilzeanking]

Villa should ashamed of themselves this morning- thugs , the first half was total thuggery . They were lucky not have a player sent off. We saw it at City. It must be in ( I believe it is) in Liverpool DNA.

Yup , apologists for Villa are saying that occasionally Romero will do a naughty tackle he shouldn't ,true , but what was different at Villa was that the season ending tackles were coming from the entire Villa team . It was planned thuggery by Gerrard . Pure intimidation...and for 45 it was very successful . Our players were left to decide to either play football and risk serious injury...or duck out of challenges and pass the ball quickly in terror .

Sure Villa succeeded with this career threatening tactic...and a ref so crowd orientated , but I have to register disgust at it and hope other teams don't look at that 1st 45 and think...'this is the way to play Spurs' .

 

[sammyj]

Shouldn’t needhalf a manager to change tactics

 

[sammyj]

Time for a

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

@sammyj You OK sweetheart?

Only ever a message away

 

[EastUpperDK82]

I'll be travelling from Denmark for the Brighton-game... my two young sons first live game... we have to win ?

Well... what the h*** was that ? ... an awful game. A no-show... Typical when bringing my young sons for the first time... I didn't expect us to be so harmless. I had to apologize to my kids... luckily they loved the new stadium and everything else. ???