Aymeric Laporte

[WiganSpur]

In general I think it's bad practice to develop a habit or reputation for having firesale prices for unwanted players, but if we were ever just gonna take the hit on the chin and move on, it should be this summer. We're at the beginning of a new project, and none of our deadwood are going to increase in value if we hang on to them - Dier, Lloris, Sanchez, and Perisic (if we want to move him) all in the final year of their contract, and Tanganga, PEH, Reguilon, and Ndombele all with two years left meaning presumably cheaper next summer. I understand it's not smart to regularly "just take what you can," but I think that's the smart move for us this summer even if it's quite a bit less than our valuations.

If it's purely about wages and not transfer fees, then it's even easier to shift these players and we could have done it months ago.

From the list of 10-12 players with question marks over them, DL should have lined up deals for all of them. Agree season long loans where you can't agree permanent deals. Then give Ange the authority to pull plugs after he's made the assessments he needs to. Are you telling me no one would have been interested in Reggie, GLC, PEH, Sanchez, Spence, Japh, Dier on loan deals?

 

[wrd]

We just sold a player for £100M - finances are not holding us back.

We are currently over the non-HG limit of players in the squad - we need to move several out before we can bring any in.

Certainly, we can simply not register some of them - but that still does not solve the long-term problem that is created by having them on the books - some of whom are still on multi-year deals.

Does being faced with the reality they may have a season of not being registered increase the chances of them moving on?

 

[WiganSpur]

Was thinking before....

People often state what a waste of money Ndombele has been - it's true.

I imagine the club feel exactly the same and are worried that they won't make money back.

But that is surely 'cancelled out' by the fact we got these players for incredible fees.
- Bentancur
- Udogie
- Maddison
- Bissouma

All four of these we have ended up paying under market valuation, in fact some (Bentancur) have been absolute steals.

Then you add Solomon (free) Sarr (cheap) to the calculation and SURELY the club can cancel some players contracts and take a hit on them to ensure they get key players in?

Cancelling contracts is pointless unless you can negotiate a vastly improved settlement with the player. You might as well keep them around in case of an injury crisis.

 

[Yid121]

We probs would have finished our window had we got rid of 6/7 but they’re still here . 2 weeks left to bring 3 in and get 7 out running out of time .

I'm imagining the problem being Levy not letting them go for below a price he has in his head and therefore putting off potential suitors?

 

[gio747]

mum assuming we have to shift due to the inflated squad and not just for monetary issues, I don’t see why we can’t get our ducks in and then get rid once we’re sorted? Obvs I’ve no idea how this works.

Neither does Levy

 

[kd2000]

So we need to get rid of 7 to sign 3.
Who genuinely thinks we could do that??
PEH and Lloris were seen as easiest and still here

 

[Bluto Blutarsky]

Does being faced with the reality they may have a season of not being registered increase the chances of them moving on?

I doubt it. I don't think any of them are in a position where they need to be playing to make a national team - so getting paid to train in London is better than getting paid to train somewhere else, I suppose.

Only one that would not apply to is Hojbjerg - but if we don't sell him, I guarantee we register him.

It's Lloris, Reguilon, Spence, Ndombele, Dier, in particular that risk not playing. But, the reality is - we won't bring anyone else in until they leave - so we will register them if they are still here.

 

[WiganSpur]

As usual asking for to much money

It's no coincidence we are good at selling top class players and terrible at selling anyone below that level. DL's one size fits all approach to selling only works when buying clubs don't have an alternative player of equivalent quality they can bring in.

 

[SpursSince1980]

Proper frustrating . Levy needs to be ruthless now it’s becoming a problem

This is beginning to shape into one of the biggest fluster clucks of Levy's reign. Selling Kane. And then not having ducks in a row, is poor planning. Yes, there is two weeks of the window to go, but if the hold-up is getting players out... that's criminally incompetent on Levy's behalf. As we should be front-and-center for Laporte, given our recent windfall. But instead of seizing the moment, we've handicapped ourselves with unrealistic expectations.

I know Levy has fiscal responsibilities. But at what cost? There comes a point where you have to simply accept a loss, and move on. Rather than wait for the right price, and lose out on targets in the process. He's not making life easy for the new manager, that's for sure. And the fans are feeling the brunt of his ongoing limitations when it comes to the footballing side of the club.

There are no excuses. No forgiveness.

He has to go.

 

[WiganSpur]

Players rep has told us he don’t wanna go there but money talks ! Fee from a premier league team will be 25/30 million. Tottenham have to shift players

I have some reservations about Laporte in our system, but fuck me for £25m what the hell are we doing?

 

[Flashp]

If bringing eg. Laporte in finally convinces Dier and Tanganga that they won't get any minutes and thus should leave, it's not impossible that acquiring a new player will actually net lead to fewer players in the squad?

It smells of excuses.

 

[SpursSince1980]

I have some reservations about Laporte in our system, but fuck me for £25m what the hell are we doing?

Apparently, nothing.

 

[Ron Burgundy]

I have some reservations about Laporte in our system, but fuck me for £25m what the hell are we doing?

Indeed. I would imagine our wages on offer are somewhat more meagre though. Moreover, City may have wanted to sell him outside the prem.

It might be that we wanted to get him, but it was never on the cards

 

[Ruffinthepuffin]

I have some reservations about Laporte in our system, but fuck me for £25m what the hell are we doing?

Completely agree, it’s a staggering situation.

 

[funkycoldmedina]

Time to start ripping up contracts

They're not going to rip them till they very last moment, not while there's a chance of any kind of fee

 

[DFF]

They're not going to rip them till they very last moment, not while there's a chance of any kind of fee

And clubs aren’t going to pay a fee if they know we’ll rip contracts up at the last moment.

 

[cjbyid]

Imagine having someone like Laporte pretty much on the tip of our fingers to sign when we are absolutely screaming out for a centre back.

But no we can't sign him cause the likes of Tanganga, Dier etc are still here.

This club. I swear.

 

[felmani26]

That only makes sense if you believe he would pay players off and then replace them with upgrades. I just don’t believe that’s even a remote possibility as it means doubling the expenditure.

But forgive me, why as a stakeholder do you (or indeed others) care so deeply about perceived expenditure?

We aren't going on a Todd Boehly, £500m extravaganza here - far from it - and yet even after selling Kane the narrative that's being peddled is that we are still required to cut our cloth accordingly.

We have the FFP room to absorb the losses without hindering our chances of recruiting reasonable talent for Ange to utilise this season as opposed to the likes of Ndombele, Dier, Tanganga, Spence etc. clogging up the squad and even being a detrimental force for squad harmony.

 

[Chris Flynn]

We are paying the price for not having a DOF in place who could have been driving the process of selling players all summer.

Thing is Levy has been in his position for 22 years, he shouldnt need a DOF. Genuinly, if you haven't learned in 22 fucking years i have to conclude he must actually be pretty dense. I could literally be a surgeon in that time

 

[Chris Flynn]

Cancelling contracts is pointless unless you can negotiate a vastly improved settlement with the player. You might as well keep them around in case of an injury crisis.

if they're not registered it dosnt matter, cant play anyway