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Bluto Blutarsky

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Thing is Levy has been in his position for 22 years, he shouldnt need a DOF. Genuinly, if you haven't learned in 22 fucking years i have to conclude he must actually be pretty dense. I could literally be a surgeon in that time
Even so - with Levy clearly being preoccupied with Kane stuff all summer - we need someone at the club who can also handle transfer business. If Paratici was still in a full-time job - I would have expected Levy to take the lead on negotiations with Bayern, while Paratici worked to get players out.

Even knowing that Ange was willing to look at several of the players on tour - we should have been actively talking to teams about loans/sales, and then start to finalize those deals once Ange made his choices known.
 

barry

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Cancelling contracts is pointless unless you can negotiate a vastly improved settlement with the player. You might as well keep them around in case of an injury crisis.
I agree to a point but there's other intangibles (attitude around the squad etc), plus less importantly, extra costs (injury recovery costs, daily human needs, extra staff for extra players etc) that could make it worthwhile
 

KingNick

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But forgive me, why as a stakeholder do you (or indeed others) care so deeply about perceived expenditure?

We aren't going on a Todd Boehly, £500m extravaganza here - far from it - and yet even after selling Kane the narrative that's being peddled is that we are still required to cut our cloth accordingly.

We have the FFP room to absorb the losses without hindering our chances of recruiting reasonable talent for Ange to utilise this season as opposed to the likes of Ndombele, Dier, Tanganga, Spence etc. clogging up the squad and even being a detrimental force for squad harmony.
I don’t care (where have I made any comment about my opinion on whether it’s the right thing or not?).

I’m engaging in a conversation as to why Levy isn’t going to do it, because it makes no sense whatsoever.
 

Scott Spur

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It really is the same shit every year.

Start of the window, nothing but mega encouraging plans.

By the end of the window, yeah we need to get some out before we get some in.

Wtf have we been doing all summer
Living it large on tour in Asia with Donna…….

Can’t expect a chairman to miss out on that, he got to expense a holiday :cautious:
 

yido_number1

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And clubs aren’t going to pay a fee if they know we’ll rip contracts up at the last moment.
It's the hope that kills you. We've had our money's worth from dier and Lloris, we should be letting them go.

Hojbjerg at 20m euros is a profit, ndombele is a write off, tanganga for anything is a bonus, reguillon is only gonna down from whatever is offered after this window.

Just cut and run we made a bumper profit on kane and cut some big wages in the process. Levy has won his finance award for the window and needs to get on with supporting the manager now.
 

barry

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It's the hope that kills you. We've had our money's worth from dier and Lloris, we should be letting them go.

Hojbjerg at 20m euros is a profit, ndombele is a write off, tanganga for anything is a bonus, reguillon is only gonna down from whatever is offered after this window.

Just cut and run we made a bumper profit on kane and cut some big wages in the process. Levy has won his finance award for the window and needs to get on with supporting the manager now.
I agree with everyone bar Hojbjerg. We should hold out for decent money. If we don't sell he's a very good squad player.
 

yido_number1

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I agree with everyone bar Hojbjerg. We should hold out for decent money. If we don't sell he's a very good squad player.
Thats for the hojbjerg thread but it's still a profit at that money and manager doesnt want him. Just cut him lose.
 

Chris Flynn

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Even so - with Levy clearly being preoccupied with Kane stuff all summer - we need someone at the club who can also handle transfer business. If Paratici was still in a full-time job - I would have expected Levy to take the lead on negotiations with Bayern, while Paratici worked to get players out.

Even knowing that Ange was willing to look at several of the players on tour - we should have been actively talking to teams about loans/sales, and then start to finalize those deals once Ange made his choices known.
But how pre-occupied can he be? 'Got an email from Charlie Kane, read it, sent a response.....phew 9:05, anyone fancy a pint?'
 

SuperLuka

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I couldn't care less who goes there, I am worried though that they're going to buy the champion league essentially, get their clubs in it and then it's game over.
I'm guessing this is part of their plan. If European fans say no in the same way we did with the super League, then it's surely never happening.
 

robotsonic

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I'm guessing this is part of their plan. If European fans say no in the same way we did with the super League, then it's surely never happening.
...the CL Euro teams that are having their deadwood bought up by this league funding further acquisitions?
 

rossdapep

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We have basically zero incentive to cancel anyone’s contract until the ass end of the window. If someone comes in for them, even on a free, we save millions of pounds. If not and they want to be able to play before January, they are incentivized to negotiate with us a smaller percentage payout to get it done before the transfer deadline. Canceling contracts won’t help us bring in new players because it’s already the worst-case scenario we are trying to avoid.
True.

But if thats the case, way not sign the players you need to now and then spend the rest of the window trying to flog those unwanted.

The later it gets, the more you drop the fee until eventually you either loan them out or rip up contract.

Being stuck in limbo harms us every fucking window.

Levy and co are far too indecisive and unwilling to be ambitious and worry about selling the old furniture later.

There is ALWAYS an excuse.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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True.

But if thats the case, way not sign the players you need to now and then spend the rest of the window trying to flog those unwanted.

The later it gets, the more you drop the fee until eventually you either loan them out or rip up contract.

Being stuck in limbo harms us every fucking window.

Levy and co are far too indecisive and unwilling to be ambitious and worry about selling the old furniture later.

There is ALWAYS an excuse.

Haven't we already done that in the key areas:

Attacking midfield
Winger
Centre back
Goalkeeper

Yes we could do with a another attacker and centre back but we've been fairly decisive sorting our key positions this window. Trying to flog our deadwood now before a final splurge in the last week(when the majority of business is always done by most teams) or so is not the disaster all you doom mongers are making out to be.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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we've been fairly decisive sorting our key positions this window.
Have we?

Maddison - absolutely.

Vicario - We got it done early, not sure I would call it decisive, with the prior links to Raya. But, I would give you this one.

Van de Ven - pretty much the opposite of decisive

Solomon - good value for the cost of the transfer, but would you say Solomon was the top target at winger for us? Sad commentary, if true.
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Have we?

Maddison - absolutely.

Vicario - We got it done early, not sure I would call it decisive, with the prior links to Raya. But, I would give you this one.

Van de Ven - pretty much the opposite of decisive

Solomon - good value for the cost of the transfer, but would you say Solomon was the top target at winger for us? Sad commentary, if true.
Van de Ven i'll give you.

Maddison - definitely decisive

Vicario - very decisive once the club realised Brentford were being stubborn on their demands

Solomon - we were linked prior to the window opened and seemed like we signed him as soon as we had smoothed things over with Shaktar (announcing a friendly). I think he was a top target for us as squad member. Personally I think he'll surprise a lot of people this season.

Considering in previous seasons most our business has been done in the last couple of weeks once we had sorted our outs this has been decisive window. In fact last summer was fairly decisive as well.

Just because we haven't addressed every single area in the first couple weeks of the window doesn't change that.
 

Guntz

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Still holding out a bit of hope he rejects them, unlikely I know.

 

Wick3d

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Before going to Saudi, he could play at the top level for a few more years. I don't see any player going off to Saudi and returning at a competitive level.

You are effectively going to Saudi for the money; what else does it offer that you can't get where you currently are, as a rich footballer?
 
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