BAE away, who will be our LB?

[simyid]

Since when? his delivery has largely been shocking. Though I was mildly impressed with the Preston game.

he has a brilliant crossing ability. i agree he has not always shown what he can do but to say it's worse than lennon's a few years back is absurd.

 

[Kendall]

Surely you mean Cox? Cox is the youth team LB; Rose is a CM or LM. Not sure Rose has ever played LB.

Rose is also a terrible player - hugely overrated. Andros Townsend is far superior.

I think the fact that Harry has had him on the bench over GDS recently, played him at left back against Doncaster for 20 minutes and he gets into the England U-21s regularly show this post up to be a bit rubbish.

He's not a terrible player at all. Though Townsend does look tasty.

 

[Kendall]

he has a brilliant crossing ability. i agree he has not always shown what he can do but to say it's worse than lennon's a few years back is absurd.

You think?

Well I would argue Bentley has shown to have great crossing ability in the past, but for us, it has been worse than Lennon's 2 years ago.

Similarly with Bale for me. When he's played and delivered balls into the box they never seem to go near our man.

 

[talkshowhost86]

he has a brilliant crossing ability. i agree he has not always shown what he can do but to say it's worse than lennon's a few years back is absurd.

I like to think that Bale does have good crossing ability because his dead ball delivery suggests that he should be able to stick in a decent ball.

But I don't remember him actually putting in too many decent crosses in his time with us. Granted that's partly because he hasn't played much but I'm still not convinced.

Having said that he did look like a very good left midfielder in the couple of games he got when he first broke into the team. But at left back I'm far from convinced. Probably our best option but I'll be waiting for Benni to come back with baited breath.

 

[DC_Boy]

it may well be the case that bassong can't do a job for us at LB

it's merely a suggestion (from me anyway) at this stage - trying to think of what's the best option

if harry has made up his mind that bale will start at anfield - fine - he's the one who has to face the inquest if the decision backfires

my view is it will be a mistake and will backfire - but harry is an infinitely better football manager than i am - so i'd take his view over mine on matters like this

 

[StartingPrice]

1)It was posted on here a lot at the time, JJ hit the bar, Keane was shocking (what else is new?).

Keane introduced himself as "Robbie Keane...Striker", Defoe as "JD Trouble...Striker" (hense why some on here call him trouble), Luka as "Luka Modric...Midfield, Hutton as "Alan Hutton...Defender", Zokora as "Mr Didier Zokora...Midfield" JJ as "Jermaine Jenas....Dalsim" and interestingly, Giovani as "Giovani Dos Santos....Striker".

Bale, however, said "left side", hense I threw that one into the mix for the 'Bale is a left back' stalwarts to muse over :up:



2)You can keep your poxy article! I have youtube video evidence of Bale saying Left Side! (which may go some way to explaining his crappy positioning, since he has no clue where he's playing other than on the left :up: )



3)Well it was a pretty clear quote from Bale, I'm not sure how I could have illustrated that it was a quote any better (aside from perhaps posting the video clip for clarity, but this would not be possible from work).

For the record, I put a :up: which is essentially ;-) but with an added bonus of a thumb, on which you may now swivel....... ;-)



Tell me more....

4)All this and you still used the word 'if' instead of 'of' in your original 'attempt' at an insult. Hense me not being able to understand what it was you were actually trying to say.... ;-)



5)I felt you jumped on what was a fairly obvious quote from a player in a tonge in cheek like manner excessively. Cretin is pretty throw away by my standard really, I felt it apt, as you were pushing your bile in my face with your condescending opening word.. "look..." as if you're trying to teach me, like some wise old hand teaching a school child. Not on your nelly Mr, I won't very well have it!

1) Like I said, I knew nothing of any crossbar challenege - now I am repeating it. I may come on here from time to time, but not all the time at all times. As I said in my original post, check the OS - so, whether he said he was 'left-sided' in a tongue in cheek way, any who states as a fact that he is a left-winger as you most definitely seemed to do, is just plain wrong.

2) You seem to think this is a bit of a joke, I pretty much felt that you were being abusive without call - so, this point seems pretty pointless. All the evidence other than your YouTube vidoe (which I have alredy dismissed) is that he is a left-winger. I'm not suddenly going to change tack.

3) I've already answered the first part of this - quite a lot of posters who don't know how to use quotation marks do this when they are trying to make a point, and all of the evidence, including direct statements of Bale's are that he is a LB I saw no reason to believe he had suddenly issued a statement that he was in fact a bono fide left-winger, I had no reason to believe you where using the quotation marks to deliver a direct quote. But that isn't the problem, it is that you called me a cretin - if you had made a freindly post in which you had explained he had actually said this but that you were aware that it was tongue-in-cheek there wouldn't have been a problem.

As for the second part, I actually checked your post twice, before responding, and, for whatever reason, on neither occasion (nor, indeed, during the original reading), did I see any (ANY) emoticons whatsoever, other than thumbs up and that is not the way I use a thumbs up, I would use it to sybolize agreement or actuality of statement, not 'tongue-in-cheek-ness' - .Hence my specific statement that if you had used some I may not have taken it so seriously, meaning a :wink:. But that is a usage issue - and I would question your usage of it.

4) That was so obviously a typo - makes me think you are clutching at straws a bit. May I take the opportunity to point out that it is 'hence' with a C, not 'hense' with an S, as you have repeated several times.

5) Obviously, and I have checked your profile, I am a bit older than you, and I can assure you that 'cretin' was considered to be a pretty damning insult for my generation. I cannot see that a 100% factual statement is in any way worthy of the description 'bile'. But there does seem to be some generational language barrier here, because actually the 'Look' was more of a 'this is going to be factual, whereas any statement to the contrary is non-factual' intro - with a slight hint of 'I have had to explain this several times already to poster s who have mistaken GBs beginning on the left-wing as proof that he is a left-winger' (just as I have had to forcibly get the point over about the positional origins, preferences and accepted situation). So, you objected to my usage of 'Look' - whcih I probably wouldn't have used if I had known that you were making a tongue-in-cheek statement (or, indeed, that GB had made that statement and it was tongue-in-cheek) - but then I probably wouldn't have made any response at all. But to all intents-and purposes you seemed to me to be making a mistake that has been made previously, I acted accordingly, utulisiing language to make to clear that there was in fact no argument, GB is basically a LB, and I find it tiresome to have to explain to people what a quick visit to the OS would reveal. In return I took real and serious objection to be being called a cretin for what was to me a fair and objective post.

 

[Pinto]

Is Benny injuried? Wondering if we can maybe have him miss a game or two for us and then come back before he normally would for Cameroon? I would rather lose Bassong for ACN than BAE, we have much more cover for Bassong than we do for BAE. Or at least cover that has experience in the Prem.

 

[BerbatovandKeane]

I think the fact that Harry has had him on the bench over GDS recently, played him at left back against Doncaster for 20 minutes and he gets into the England U-21s regularly show this post up to be a bit rubbish.

He's not a terrible player at all. Though Townsend does look tasty.

No - IIRC correctly we went 3-5-2 after Bassong went off with O'Hara dropping back into the back 4 when we were defending. Rose went to LW and Dos Santos drifted more into the centre with Boateng and O'Hara.

There's been a problem with our youth team over recent season that the big money bought players (Rose, Bostock and Parret) have been getting big favouritism over the home grown players. Yaser Kasim (now at Sheff U) quit the club because of this.

IMO Rose is consistently the worst player in the youth side whenever I watch them.

 

[SpurSince57]

Surely you mean Cox? Cox is the youth team LB; Rose is a CM or LM. Not sure Rose has ever played LB.

Rose is also a terrible player - hugely overrated. Andros Townsend is far superior.

If my informant (an SC member who wishes to remain anonymous, for easily understandable reasons) had meant Cox, he'd have said Cox.

Rose 'terrible'? Since I've hardly seen anything of him, I really couldn't comment. How much of him have you seen, exactly?

 

[yanno]

This is the same Kendall who once declared on SC, IIRC, that Bale might at best make a "steady" LB. Or some such word, which is usually used to describe a plodder.

At 17 and 18, Gareth Bale was terrorizing international defences for Wales, and we competed with manure for his signature. He was the best young attacking LB in European football.

Bale was excellent for us under Jol. Then he got injured. And injured again.

However, he's always had excellent delivery, both from set pieces and in open play. He's also always been learning his trade defensively. Just as other young LBs have done: eg Evra, Clichy, Ashley Cole. Indeed critics said none of that trio could defend, and they've certainly stuffed that down the critics' throats.

As has BAE.

Bale is still just 20. It's ridiculous that some here have already decided he won't make it at the top level.

 

[BerbatovandKeane]

If my informant (an SC member who wishes to remain anonymous, for easily understandable reasons) had meant Cox, he'd have said Cox.

Rose 'terrible'? Since I've hardly seen anything of him, I really couldn't comment. How much of him have you seen, exactly?

About 15-20 youth team games over the past 3 years. I've also got a mate who is a Watford fan (where he failed big time).

Rose is a playmaker really - certainly not tenacious enough to play at fullback, or quick enough to play as a winger.

 

[StartingPrice]

This is the same Kendall who once declared on SC, IIRC, that Bale might at best make a "steady" LB. Or some such word, which is usually used to describe a plodder.

At 17 and 18, Gareth Bale was terrorizing international defences for Wales, and we competed with manure for his signature. He was the best young attacking LB in European football.

Bale was excellent for us under Jol. Then he got injured. And injured again.

However, he's always had excellent delivery, both from set pieces and in open play. He's also always been learning his trade defensively. Just as other young LBs have done: eg Evra, Clichy, Ashley Cole. Indeed critics said none of that trio could defend, and they've certainly stuffed that down the critics' throats.

As has BAE.

Bale is still just 20. It's ridiculous that some here have already decided he won't make it at the top level.

:clap::clap::clap:

As I remember it correctly, Vidic and Evra both arrived at United during a January TW (although Fergie tries not to do business then). Both were villified in the media to the extent that there were taken as evidence of a total colapse of Fergie's powers, and the beginning of his oft predicted decline. This is the same Vidic whom many now consider to be one of the best CBs in the country, Europe and even the World; this is the same Evra who many now consider to be one of the ebst FBs in the country, Europe a or even the World (despite the fac that AL skins him on a regular basis).

The fact that Bale has been injured and played out of position for most of his time at the Lane does not make him a flop. The only negative thing I have ever said in relation to him was when we were competing with United for his sig. and people on here were posting those clips of him from YouTube sscoring goals and free-kiacks. I said I was more interested in his defending, as he is, like, a defender. So, I do have a keen interest in his ability, or otherwise, to defend. I just don't think there is the evidence to declare him flop of the century, or more suited to the left-wing...is all.

 

[StartingPrice]

About 15-20 youth team games over the past 3 years. I've also got a mate who is a Watford fan (where he failed big time).

Rose is a playmaker really - certainly not tenacious enough to play at fullback, or quick enough to play as a winger.

I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure that when we took him from Leeds it was as a left-winger:shrug:

 

[simyid]

This is the same Kendall who once declared on SC, IIRC, that Bale might at best make a "steady" LB. Or some such word, which is usually used to describe a plodder.

At 17 and 18, Gareth Bale was terrorizing international defences for Wales, and we competed with manure for his signature. He was the best young attacking LB in European football.

Bale was excellent for us under Jol. Then he got injured. And injured again.

However, he's always had excellent delivery, both from set pieces and in open play. He's also always been learning his trade defensively. Just as other young LBs have done: eg Evra, Clichy, Ashley Cole. Indeed critics said none of that trio could defend, and they've certainly stuffed that down the critics' throats.

As has BAE.

Bale is still just 20. It's ridiculous that some here have already decided he won't make it at the top level.

:clap:

 

[BerbatovandKeane]

I may be mistaken, but I am pretty sure that when we took him from Leeds it was as a left-winger:shrug:

LM. A playmaker out wide like Modric, Krancjar, Malbranque etc., but not a winger. He was converted into a CM quite quickly by us, though does still alternate between that and LM.

A lot of the misconceptions about him come from him inaccurately being tagged as 'the next Lennon' in the press when he first signed.

 

[yanno]

About 15-20 youth team games over the past 3 years. I've also got a mate who is a Watford fan (where he failed big time).

Rose is a playmaker really - certainly not tenacious enough to play at fullback, or quick enough to play as a winger.

Rose was a winger or striker as a kid. Then, under Ramos, we started playing him as a CM. Which is where he's been played during some of his time on loan.

But Rose has played his England age group football, including for the U21s, as an attacking LM. And he is fast. Very fast.

 

[BerbatovandKeane]

Rose was a winger or striker as a kid. Then, under Ramos, we started playing him as a CM. Which is where he's been played during some of his time on loan.

But Rose has played his England age group football, including for the U21s, as an attacking LM. And he is fast. Very fast.

I think he was played in CM as a developmental thing. I think they eventually fancy him as another Krancjar or Malbranque.

He's also lost a few yards of pace since his big injury, so is having to learn to be cleverer and develop some guile.

 

[simyid]

i know not a good source but BAE might not go to the ACN but may still miss a month of football. http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7503146

 

[SpurSince57]

This is the same Kendall who once declared on SC, IIRC, that Bale might at best make a "steady" LB. Or some such word, which is usually used to describe a plodder.

At 17 and 18, Gareth Bale was terrorizing international defences for Wales, and we competed with manure for his signature. He was the best young attacking LB in European football.

Bale was excellent for us under Jol. Then he got injured. And injured again.

However, he's always had excellent delivery, both from set pieces and in open play. He's also always been learning his trade defensively. Just as other young LBs have done: eg Evra, Clichy, Ashley Cole. Indeed critics said none of that trio could defend, and they've certainly stuffed that down the critics' throats.

As has BAE.

Bale is still just 20. It's ridiculous that some here have already decided he won't make it at the top level.

Who's made it pretty clear he'd be only too happy to have him at Ajax.

I think it's fair to say he's been less than convincing defensively, but then he is only 20, and how many fully-formed 20-year-old defenders can anyone think of?

 

[brett.spurs]

Cameroon have stated that he won`t take part in the tournament and has been replaced by Gilles Augustin Binya, which is a relief as I worried that Sebastien Bassong would get a late call.

Any official links that confirm this?