Baldini resignation rejected
- Thread starter L-man
- Start date
Original # 10
Well-Known Member
- Aug 13, 2008
- 1,013
- 1,609
AVB our best manager in 20 odd years and the fans the reason we lost 5-0 and 6-0
Am I tripping?
Am I tripping?
THFCSPURS19
The Speaker of the Transfer Rumours Forum
- Jan 6, 2013
- 37,900
- 130,567
Another article by Burt: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...os-when-Franco-Baldini-offered-to-resign.html
Tottenham Hotspur plunged into utter chaos when Franco Baldini offered to resign
Daniel Levy’s grand plan almost fell apart at the seams when their technical director offered to follow Andre Villas-Boas out the exit door
It was just before Franco Baldini had reached Tottenham Hotspur’s state-of-the-art training ground in Enfield last Monday that the news broke. Andre Villas-Boas had been sacked as Spurs’ head coach.
Baldini, hired as technical director partly on Villas-Boas’s recommendation, then, according to club sources, offered his own resignation to Spurs’ chairman Daniel Levy. It was immediately refused. If it had been accepted then Spurs’ new, modern structure would have fallen apart at the seams in one eventful morning.
Levy wants to run his club along the lines of a head coach and a director of football and has craved it ever since the disaster of signing Sergei Rebrov for a then club record £11 million in 2000 under manager George Graham only for the Ukrainian to be frozen out under Glenn Hoddle.
Never again, Levy vowed: he duly used Hoddle in tandem with David Pleat and then Juande Ramos with Damien Comolli.
Levy wants a coach who works on the training ground with the players that the club buys and does not want a manager who has too much power. He wants value for money; he want to sweat the club’s assets – with the accusation that then follows that he is a ‘numbers man’ first and foremost.
It is why Levy fretted over the sight of Emmanuel Adebayor, Spurs’ highest earner, being frozen out by Villas-Boas.
The trio had been due to hold further talks on Villas-Boas’s future, after a brief, tetchy meeting immediately after the 5-0 humiliation at home to Liverpool, but it was not necessary. Villas-Boas wanted to go; Levy wanted him to go and so the two reached agreement without Baldini.
Villas-Boas delivered Christmas presents to Spurs’ staff, as he had planned, and called the first-team squad together.
“He wanted to see everybody and, in front of the squad, he said it was the decision of the club and it’s not an easy situation for everybody but we have to respect that and continue our ways and our work because Tottenham have a lot of ambition this year,” goalkeeper Hugo Lloris said.
Baldini’s offer to then go himself was understandable but it also highlighted the apparent state of chaos at the club, which had hoped a high-powered triumvirate of chairman, technical director and head coach could drive Spurs’ forward into the Champions League places and eventually into Premier League title contention. Given the drive and ability possessed by all three men it could — should – have succeeded but the personality clashes hurt.
Baldini offered to go because he had to assume part of the responsibility for what happened with Villas-Boas and because he oversaw the £107 million spending spree last summer, which overhauled the Spurs squad with the proceeds from selling Gareth Bale to Real Madrid for £85 million.
So frantic was that activity that on the final day of the transfer window last August Baldini was in a whirl of meetings at the training ground finalising the signings of Christian Eriksen, Erik Lamela and Vlad Chiriches. It was a risky strategy but an understandable one and was initially hailed as turning a potential negative into a positive. All the players are talented, and Baldini retains faith that his signings will work.
But not all the seven were the ones wanted by Villas-Boas. The Portuguese had hoped the club would keep Bale and bring in David Villa and Hulk to form a new strike force. He had wanted Paulinho, Étienne Capoue and Roberto Soldado and was bitterly disappointed that Willian went to Chelsea.
The transfer deals were a source of tension, as detailed last week by The Telegraph, as was the club’s reluctance to implement changes to the medical department that he had recommended. Villas-Boas also clashed with the club in the row over Lloris’ head injury and, of course, the handling of Adebayor who Villas-Boas wanted out.
There was friction after Paris St-Germain made an approach to hire Villas-Boas and appeared willing to pay the £10 million compensation in his release clause. The coach decided to stay, there were murmurings over a new contract – but in the end nothing happened.
So what now for Spurs? Tim Sherwood was the obvious choice as interim head coach, not least because he has not been slow to voice his own opinion as to what should be done, including some forthright criticism of Villas-Boas.
The Capital One Cup defeat at home to West Ham United was a baptism of fire for the 44-year-old with his substitutions – withdrawing a striker for a midfielder – backfiring spectacularly.
He wants the job on a permanent basis and he is highly-rated by Levy who has allowed Sherwood a great deal of autonomy in signing players for Spurs’ development squads in his role as the club’s technical coordinator. Indeed Sherwood was considered, before Baldini’s appointment, to become technical director but it was decided he lacked experience.
He has no experience as a head coach, either, but will be given every chance to succeed having also toured Europe, spending time in Spain and Holland learning how other clubs operate, even if he has yet to find the time to gain a Uefa Pro Licence, which is a requirement of every Premier League manager.
“We know Tim because he’s worked for the club for a long time now,” Lloris said. “He has the philosophy of the club and he’s tries his best to put all the players in their best condition with his staff.”
Sherwood has apparently committed to a 4-4-2 formation for Spurs – he encouraged the same system with the club’s under-21s and under-18s – and Lloris said his first training session had ended with the demand to “just play our game and play on joy and try to keep the philosophy of the club, to attack”.
Understandably Sherwood has also already called for stability – something the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust has demanded as it has asked Levy to “explain the rationale” behind Villas-Boas’s dismissal. That would presumably start with him being installed as the club’s next head coach. He has every chance to stake his claim over Christmas.
Spurs contenders
Tim Sherwood: The man in possession, and could well land the job if he impresses in the short-term. He would also provide continuity, reassuring amid all the upheaval at Spurs. The cons are obvious: a lack Uefa Pro Licence – and, more seriously, a lack of high-level coaching experience which would appear to make him ill-suited for a club of Tottenham’s ambition.
Murat Yakin: The coach of Swiss club Basle is keen to be linked to Spurs but it also, definitely, on their shortlist. He will have to take a crash course in English, not speaking the language, and the chances are Spurs would wait until the summer should they want to make a move. But the 39-year-old former defender, of Turkish descent, is highly regarded.
Roberto Mancini: The Italian has a strong relationship with Spurs’ technical director Franco Baldini and would like to work again in the Premier League despite having only recently joined Turkish club Galatasaray. Whether the former Manchester City manager fits the mould of the kind of head coach Spurs want is another matter.
Mauricio Pochettino: There is little chance that the Southampton manager will leave this season but the Argentine is hugely admired by Spurs for the style of play he demands and his present club may have to tie him down to a new deal to fend off any interest.
Tottenham Hotspur plunged into utter chaos when Franco Baldini offered to resign
Daniel Levy’s grand plan almost fell apart at the seams when their technical director offered to follow Andre Villas-Boas out the exit door
It was just before Franco Baldini had reached Tottenham Hotspur’s state-of-the-art training ground in Enfield last Monday that the news broke. Andre Villas-Boas had been sacked as Spurs’ head coach.
Baldini, hired as technical director partly on Villas-Boas’s recommendation, then, according to club sources, offered his own resignation to Spurs’ chairman Daniel Levy. It was immediately refused. If it had been accepted then Spurs’ new, modern structure would have fallen apart at the seams in one eventful morning.
Levy wants to run his club along the lines of a head coach and a director of football and has craved it ever since the disaster of signing Sergei Rebrov for a then club record £11 million in 2000 under manager George Graham only for the Ukrainian to be frozen out under Glenn Hoddle.
Never again, Levy vowed: he duly used Hoddle in tandem with David Pleat and then Juande Ramos with Damien Comolli.
Levy wants a coach who works on the training ground with the players that the club buys and does not want a manager who has too much power. He wants value for money; he want to sweat the club’s assets – with the accusation that then follows that he is a ‘numbers man’ first and foremost.
It is why Levy fretted over the sight of Emmanuel Adebayor, Spurs’ highest earner, being frozen out by Villas-Boas.
The trio had been due to hold further talks on Villas-Boas’s future, after a brief, tetchy meeting immediately after the 5-0 humiliation at home to Liverpool, but it was not necessary. Villas-Boas wanted to go; Levy wanted him to go and so the two reached agreement without Baldini.
Villas-Boas delivered Christmas presents to Spurs’ staff, as he had planned, and called the first-team squad together.
“He wanted to see everybody and, in front of the squad, he said it was the decision of the club and it’s not an easy situation for everybody but we have to respect that and continue our ways and our work because Tottenham have a lot of ambition this year,” goalkeeper Hugo Lloris said.
Baldini’s offer to then go himself was understandable but it also highlighted the apparent state of chaos at the club, which had hoped a high-powered triumvirate of chairman, technical director and head coach could drive Spurs’ forward into the Champions League places and eventually into Premier League title contention. Given the drive and ability possessed by all three men it could — should – have succeeded but the personality clashes hurt.
Baldini offered to go because he had to assume part of the responsibility for what happened with Villas-Boas and because he oversaw the £107 million spending spree last summer, which overhauled the Spurs squad with the proceeds from selling Gareth Bale to Real Madrid for £85 million.
So frantic was that activity that on the final day of the transfer window last August Baldini was in a whirl of meetings at the training ground finalising the signings of Christian Eriksen, Erik Lamela and Vlad Chiriches. It was a risky strategy but an understandable one and was initially hailed as turning a potential negative into a positive. All the players are talented, and Baldini retains faith that his signings will work.
But not all the seven were the ones wanted by Villas-Boas. The Portuguese had hoped the club would keep Bale and bring in David Villa and Hulk to form a new strike force. He had wanted Paulinho, Étienne Capoue and Roberto Soldado and was bitterly disappointed that Willian went to Chelsea.
The transfer deals were a source of tension, as detailed last week by The Telegraph, as was the club’s reluctance to implement changes to the medical department that he had recommended. Villas-Boas also clashed with the club in the row over Lloris’ head injury and, of course, the handling of Adebayor who Villas-Boas wanted out.
There was friction after Paris St-Germain made an approach to hire Villas-Boas and appeared willing to pay the £10 million compensation in his release clause. The coach decided to stay, there were murmurings over a new contract – but in the end nothing happened.
So what now for Spurs? Tim Sherwood was the obvious choice as interim head coach, not least because he has not been slow to voice his own opinion as to what should be done, including some forthright criticism of Villas-Boas.
The Capital One Cup defeat at home to West Ham United was a baptism of fire for the 44-year-old with his substitutions – withdrawing a striker for a midfielder – backfiring spectacularly.
He wants the job on a permanent basis and he is highly-rated by Levy who has allowed Sherwood a great deal of autonomy in signing players for Spurs’ development squads in his role as the club’s technical coordinator. Indeed Sherwood was considered, before Baldini’s appointment, to become technical director but it was decided he lacked experience.
He has no experience as a head coach, either, but will be given every chance to succeed having also toured Europe, spending time in Spain and Holland learning how other clubs operate, even if he has yet to find the time to gain a Uefa Pro Licence, which is a requirement of every Premier League manager.
“We know Tim because he’s worked for the club for a long time now,” Lloris said. “He has the philosophy of the club and he’s tries his best to put all the players in their best condition with his staff.”
Sherwood has apparently committed to a 4-4-2 formation for Spurs – he encouraged the same system with the club’s under-21s and under-18s – and Lloris said his first training session had ended with the demand to “just play our game and play on joy and try to keep the philosophy of the club, to attack”.
Understandably Sherwood has also already called for stability – something the Tottenham Hotspur Supporters Trust has demanded as it has asked Levy to “explain the rationale” behind Villas-Boas’s dismissal. That would presumably start with him being installed as the club’s next head coach. He has every chance to stake his claim over Christmas.
Spurs contenders
Tim Sherwood: The man in possession, and could well land the job if he impresses in the short-term. He would also provide continuity, reassuring amid all the upheaval at Spurs. The cons are obvious: a lack Uefa Pro Licence – and, more seriously, a lack of high-level coaching experience which would appear to make him ill-suited for a club of Tottenham’s ambition.
Murat Yakin: The coach of Swiss club Basle is keen to be linked to Spurs but it also, definitely, on their shortlist. He will have to take a crash course in English, not speaking the language, and the chances are Spurs would wait until the summer should they want to make a move. But the 39-year-old former defender, of Turkish descent, is highly regarded.
Roberto Mancini: The Italian has a strong relationship with Spurs’ technical director Franco Baldini and would like to work again in the Premier League despite having only recently joined Turkish club Galatasaray. Whether the former Manchester City manager fits the mould of the kind of head coach Spurs want is another matter.
Mauricio Pochettino: There is little chance that the Southampton manager will leave this season but the Argentine is hugely admired by Spurs for the style of play he demands and his present club may have to tie him down to a new deal to fend off any interest.
jonathanhotspur
Loose Cannon
- Jun 28, 2009
- 10,292
- 8,250
You will come back as a toilet brush for this piece of insolence, indianspurs.
sherbornespurs
Well-Known Member
- Dec 9, 2006
- 3,783
- 9,345
And Mussolini, who I believe was strung up by his heels I believe.
nightgoat
Well-Known Member
- Sep 12, 2005
- 24,604
- 21,898
Well that should please just about everyone.
He could be in the process of getting the license as we type or could do it over the summer in order to be manager...
nightgoat
Well-Known Member
- Sep 12, 2005
- 24,604
- 21,898
Way to piss on my bonfire...
Gedson100
Well-Known Member
- Feb 13, 2012
- 4,487
- 14,648
Lloris said his first training session had ended with the demand to
“just play our game and play on joy and try to keep the philosophy of the club, to attack”.
^This is tactics?
Here is ball. Run around a bit.
Get tired. Lose to West Ham.
I fear for tomorrow.
BUT IT IS JUST AVB STICKING THE BOOT IN VIA BURT, ISN'T IT? ISN'T IT?
“just play our game and play on joy and try to keep the philosophy of the club, to attack”.
^This is tactics?
Here is ball. Run around a bit.
Get tired. Lose to West Ham.
I fear for tomorrow.
BUT IT IS JUST AVB STICKING THE BOOT IN VIA BURT, ISN'T IT? ISN'T IT?
Last edited:
It's fine that people have a critical stand towards Jason Burt and what he writes, but it's not like all of it has to be one great manipulation, because he coincidentally has sources close to AVB and/or the club.
If you go into the substance there have been other articles and columnists providng a much more positive stand towards AVB in their articles, and a much more critical stand towards Levy.
I have always considered him a good and sophisticated journalist, and I can't see why he would risk his entire reputation being som secret agent following AVB's agenda. I think that is highly unlikely.
If you go into the substance there have been other articles and columnists providng a much more positive stand towards AVB in their articles, and a much more critical stand towards Levy.
I have always considered him a good and sophisticated journalist, and I can't see why he would risk his entire reputation being som secret agent following AVB's agenda. I think that is highly unlikely.
Gedson100
Well-Known Member
- Feb 13, 2012
- 4,487
- 14,648
I don't really want my abiding hope for winning a football match to be 'We have better players than you.'
It would be nice to know that some tactical and strategic thought had been instilled in some of the player's minds too. Playing on 'joy' might not be enough in the modern game.
It would be nice to know that some tactical and strategic thought had been instilled in some of the player's minds too. Playing on 'joy' might not be enough in the modern game.
beats1
Well-Known Member
- Feb 22, 2010
- 30,040
- 29,630
Spurs U21's and U18's never played 442 ever!
Gedson100
Well-Known Member
- Feb 13, 2012
- 4,487
- 14,648
He has always written articles supportive of AVB and has often acted as an unofficial mouthpiece, since he's mates with Andre. I question the list of potential managers given that his source is clearly AVB not anyone else at the club, and it looks unrealistic. His reputation isn't based around Spurs anyway. I thought he covered Chelsea and followed AVB from there so logically covered some SPurs stuff after.
He's no loyalty or interest in Spurs after all.
beats1
Well-Known Member
- Feb 22, 2010
- 30,040
- 29,630
I think that is taken out of context, watch the U21's and they never run around abit like HarryLloris said his first training session had ended with the demand to
“just play our game and play on joy and try to keep the philosophy of the club, to attack”.
^This is tactics.
Here is ball. Run around a bit.
Get tired. Lose to West Ham.
I fear for tomorrow.
BUT IT IS JUST AVB STICKING THE BOOT IN VIA BURT, ISN'T IT? ISN'T IT?
Isnt the words "just play your game and enjoy yourself" what every manager says.
Lloris is hardly going to say yea he trying to change the system to a more attacking one which is more slightly more direct and to get at teams, and etc. and etc.
He also said the philosophy of was to attack, do you want him to say its to defend?
gibbospurs
SC Supporter
- Aug 28, 2010
- 5,017
- 6,663
They are a bunch of world class footballers. (some of them) put them in there best positions together and they will come good. do you really think when they have the ball at their feet they are thinking about tactics, and what the manager said to them before the game?? They need to play their own game and work out how their team mates play, then we will be rockin. Tactics are overated, formations are overated to a certain extent. Making the right decisions on the park is not in the hands of a manager.Lloris said his first training session had ended with the demand to
“just play our game and play on joy and try to keep the philosophy of the club, to attack”.
^This is tactics.
Here is ball. Run around a bit.
Get tired. Lose to West Ham.
I fear for tomorrow.
BUT IT IS JUST AVB STICKING THE BOOT IN VIA BURT, ISN'T IT? ISN'T IT?
beats1
Well-Known Member
- Feb 22, 2010
- 30,040
- 29,630
So why would he lie in his article?
only1waddle
Well-Known Member
- Jun 18, 2012
- 8,243
- 12,538
After a few humiliating defeats i hope to god it's just a confidence boosting exercise, rather than the basis of his philosophy or tactical acumen.
Last edited:
davidmatzdorf
Front Page Gadfly
- Jun 7, 2004
- 18,106
- 45,030
That bit has a ring of veracity about it. Especially if Burt is as tapped into Villas Boas as people are claiming.
only1waddle
Well-Known Member
- Jun 18, 2012
- 8,243
- 12,538
Park football maybe, not at the top level, drilling movement and formation and instruction into players at this level is crucial.
Your right, I'm sorry. The AVB-Mafia is in complete control of Jason Burt and has made it their number one objective that he lies about the system Sherwood wants too play.
Similar threads
