Best XI...

[hodsgod]

Because the alternative is Lennon, and lets face it, he is got enough.

You got two choice, stick with the old who has been woefully inconsistent or bed the new and exciting in. This being either Lamela or Fredrisks (who was originally a winger).

Even if have a new manger (Who I really don;t like and trust), lets move things forward on the pitch too.

I would like to see an improvement on Lennon, I just don't understand why you put a player in the best 11 when you dont know if he is one of the best or not.

 

[TheGreenLily]

I would like to see an improvement on Lennon, I just don't understand why you put a player in the best 11 when you dont know if he is one of the best or not.

And he will never be the best unless he gets his chance and a long run of games to develop.

Lennon has be here for how many years? And he has been luck he has had very little competition.

 

[jezz]

I would like to see an improvement on Lennon, I just don't understand why you put a player in the best 11 when you dont know if he is one of the best or not.

i imagine because hes produced more than lennon.

 

[yusrisafri]

I would like to try Holtby, Lamela and Eriksen play together from the start. Holtby to play from deep to provide the running on top of his penchant for the wonderful pass, Eriksen to provie the link up and Lamela to provide the flair. Im sure these 3 would be able to play well together.

Put in Adebayor up top and Im sure we will see our goals coming from these 4 players.

Sandro or Capoue to be the anchorman and maybe put Townsend on the left.

Something like this maybe

......................................Lloris.......................................
Walker............Vlad......................Verts....................Rose
.......................Sandro...........Holtby...............................
....Lamela.......................Eriksen....................Townsend
...................................Adebayor..................................

 

[SamR]

Im just posing the question...is our first team all its cracked up to be? All this talk of top 4 is a bit much in my eyes. Some of you would have seen a lot more of the new boys...but I havent seen anything special yet to pick a stand out first 11. Only Lloris, vertonghen, walker and sandro (and Dembele on form) are guaranteed starters on merit for me.

 

[hodsgod]

And he will never be the best unless he gets his chance and a long run of games to develop.

Lennon has be here for how many years? And he has been luck he has had very little competition.

You are arguing a different point, I only commented on the logic of putting a player in a theoretical best eleven that we haven't seen. I actually made the same point in august.

 

[hodsgod]

i imagine because hes produced more than lennon.

In who's imagination?

 

[hodsgod]

Im just posing the question...is our first team all its cracked up to be? All this talk of top 4 is a bit much in my eyes. Some of you would have seen a lot more of the new boys...but I havent seen anything special yet to pick a stand out first 11. Only Lloris, vertonghen, walker and sandro (and Dembele on form) are guaranteed starters on merit for me.

I agree, when you compare the players to Bale, VDV , Modric, king. We done have the same quality. Vertonghen I'd excellent, Vlad is looking promising, but a lot of them just aren't doing it yet. I just hope under a new system we will see some better performances that reflect the players reputations and price tag.

 

[jezz]

In who's imagination?

Care to enlighten me on how Lennons produced, well anything to be frank?

 

[kd2000]

personally id go with
Lloris
Walker
Kaboul
Verts
Rose
Sandro
Dembele
Townsend
Lennon
Lamela
Soldado

I'd free up Lamela to float around and roam between the oppositions defence and midfield. He can be alternated with Eriksen. Holby/ Paulinho/ Capoue as alternatives to Sandro and Dembele and Vlad as our 3rd choice CB. I'd also forget talk of Assou Ekotto and give fryers more of a chance. I also think Kane should get more game time and chances.

 

[idontgetit]

Im just posing the question...is our first team all its cracked up to be? All this talk of top 4 is a bit much in my eyes. Some of you would have seen a lot more of the new boys...but I havent seen anything special yet to pick a stand out first 11. Only Lloris, vertonghen, walker and sandro (and Dembele on form) are guaranteed starters on merit for me.

Yes we do. Get our best defenders fit and we'll have classy cb's and two of the prems fastest wingbacks playing in front of the best sweeper keeper in the world. We've an absolute beast of a defensive midfielder in Sandro and a powerful classy one in Capoue. We've got one of the best and most dominant ball carriers in Dembele and a pretty decent well rounded midfielder in Paulinho. The less know part of the side is the attack. I genuinely believe though that once the likes of Holtby, Erikson, Lamela, Townsend, Soldado and Adebayor start playing regularly with each other we will have one of the most effective and watchable attacks going. I'm just gutted that AVB's wasted nearly half the season that those attacking players could have been gelling. On the bench we'll have the pace of Lennon to come on and harass tired defences, a good option in Chadli and I think a very underestimated player in Sig.

Used right our side can be fucking awesome. We need our best back four getting fit quick though before too much damage is done

 

[Monkey Bastard Hands]

Frankly i've not seen enough of our new players to really say who should be in our best XI. Now i've had a couple of days to think about it, AVB's team selection was incredibly inconsistent and it's no surprise how we failed to gel when he kept chopping and changing things. Based on what I THINK should be our best XI, I would say:

Lloris
Walker Vertonghen Chiriches Rose
Sandro Ericksen Capoue
Lennon Soldado Lamela

 

[hodsgod]

Care to enlighten me on how Lennons produced, well anything to be frank?

I never ever spoke about Lennon, you are deviating from the subject.

My point has always been, if you haven't seen a player how can you pick him in the best eleven. It defies any sort of logic.

In answer to your question, Lennon hasn't played much this season through injury, however I do remember boos when he was taken off against Man U.

 

[jezz]

I never ever spoke about Lennon, you are deviating from the subject.

My point has always been, if you haven't seen a player how can you pick him in the best eleven. It defies any sort of logic.

In answer to your question, Lennon hasn't played much this season through injury, however I do remember boos when he was taken off against Man U.

Really?
Ive seen him play and he looks the best option on the right, thats my logic.
Lamela gave a virtuoso performance against Sherriff.
Lennon got subbed because he went missing in the second half.

 

[SEANSPURS1975]

Don't think Lamela is ready. Not convinced by Soldado yet. Harsh on Paulinho, but prefer Dembele. Ekotto's still our player so he gets in.
All fit and on form I'd go:-

Lloris; Walker, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Ekotto; Lennon, Sandro, Dembele, Eriksen, Townsend; Adebayor

Not a bad 2nd team:-
Gomes/Friedel; Naughton, Dawson, Chiriches, Rose; Lamela, Capoue, Paulinho, Sigurdsson/ Holtby, Chadli; Soldado/Defoe

 

[Cyspurs]

I thought our youth all played 433/4231... Our am I mistaken? What makes you think TS will go 442? Genuine question.

Our youth played that system, because the First team played that way. So they had to play that way in order to fit in to first team when and if needed.

 

[Bowlesinho]

Personally....

------------------Lloris-----------------
--Walker--Kaboul--Vertonghen--Rose
----------------Sandro-----------------
-----------Holtby----Eriksen----------
--Lamela------------------Townsend--
----------------Soldado----------------

Would consider dropping Townsend, moving Eriksen to LW (cutting in) with Dembele/Paulinho coming in to CM for tougher games.

 

[Legend10]

The difference is we don't have an intelligent striker to come back and link play. We don't have anything near a Suarez, Aguero or Rooney who basically play like number 10's so their teams don't get out numbered in midfield.

None of the strikers in our squad have shown they are able to perform this role in their careers. Plus we have players who are specialists at the number 10 role. So why ask a striker to perform a role he is not comfortable with when we have others players who have been coached in that position their whole life?

If you're asking me I would play a system which best suits the players available!

And IMHO we are best suited to playing with Adebayor & Soldado up front. I would be playing with 2 CB's, 2 sitting CM players and be attacking from wide areas to get crosses in or feed balls in for Ade & Soldado.

My first choice line up would be:

..........................Lloris......................

Walker.......Vlad............Verts........Rose

..............Sandro........Moussa............

......Lamela.........................Eriksen......

................Ade..........Soldado.............


To me that's a 442, but I would be looking to my 2 CM players to mainly protect, break up play and pass quickly, whilst tucking Lamela & Eriksen in slightly to feed balls wide for the FB' to get round the outside and deliver crosses or for Lamela & Eriksen to slide balls in or down the sides for Ade & Soldado.

You would never have a defensive block of less than 5 but at the same time you have the opportunity to attack with both pace and craft plus the advantage of having 2 targets to hit when under pressure. When you don't have the ball it allows you to press right from the front as you have more than one player to share the work load and if you don't win it back quickly then Lamela & Eriksen drop into more conventional roles and one forward just drops in 10 yards.

I think it gives you such a solid defensive base of the 2 in front of the 2, plus it allows you to move the ball quickly and get your most creative players on it. The 2 FB's have massive roles to play and Walker certainly fits this system perfectly and in the main so does Rose.

But it also allows you to drop players in and out and play the same way, for Vlad & Verts drop in Kaboul & Dawson, for Sandro & Moussa drop in Pauly &Capoue, for Lamela & Eriksen drop in Siggy/Holtby & Townsend/Lennon, for Ade & Soldado drop in Kane & Defoe. The only problem is we don't have ideal drop in FB's although at a push and at home Townsend could possibly provide the left one.

So again if it was me in January I would be looking for 2 back up FB's who have these qualities.

For me this is the best system that we could play to suit the players that we have available, it's offensive, has creativity, pace, a physical threat, 2 forward players working in tandem and still retains a solid base.

 

[rockyhotspur]

--------------Lloris------------
Walker---Chiriches--Jan---Rose
--------------Capoue----------
Lennon--Eriksen----Paulinho--Townsend
--------------Soldado----------

At the moment the back 5 really picks itself.

We only need one holding midfield player and it really is a close thing between the Beast and Capoue. I give it to Capoue as I prefer him on the ball to Sandro. I also think that Holtby could do a really good job in this position.

The midfield is our biggest conundrum. On current form I would go with some pace out wide with Lennon on the right and Townsend on the left with Eriksen and Paulinho playing more advanced than they have done so far this season. Hopefully this system would create more opportunities for Soldado who I rate very highly.

 

[Syn_13]

If you're asking me I would play a system which best suits the players available!

And IMHO we are best suited to playing with Adebayor & Soldado up front. I would be playing with 2 CB's, 2 sitting CM players and be attacking from wide areas to get crosses in or feed balls in for Ade & Soldado.

My first choice line up would be:

..........................Lloris......................

Walker.......Vlad............Verts........Rose

..............Sandro........Moussa............

......Lamela.........................Eriksen......

................Ade..........Soldado.............


To me that's a 442, but I would be looking to my 2 CM players to mainly protect, break up play and pass quickly, whilst tucking Lamela & Eriksen in slightly to feed balls wide for the FB' to get round the outside and deliver crosses or for Lamela & Eriksen to slide balls in or down the sides for Ade & Soldado.

You would never have a defensive block of less than 5 but at the same time you have the opportunity to attack with both pace and craft plus the advantage of having 2 targets to hit when under pressure. When you don't have the ball it allows you to press right from the front as you have more than one player to share the work load and if you don't win it back quickly then Lamela & Eriksen drop into more conventional roles and one forward just drops in 10 yards.

I think it gives you such a solid defensive base of the 2 in front of the 2, plus it allows you to move the ball quickly and get your most creative players on it. The 2 FB's have massive roles to play and Walker certainly fits this system perfectly and in the main so does Rose.

But it also allows you to drop players in and out and play the same way, for Vlad & Verts drop in Kaboul & Dawson, for Sandro & Moussa drop in Pauly &Capoue, for Lamela & Eriksen drop in Siggy/Holtby & Townsend/Lennon, for Ade & Soldado drop in Kane & Defoe. The only problem is we don't have ideal drop in FB's although at a push and at home Townsend could possibly provide the left one.

So again if it was me in January I would be looking for 2 back up FB's who have these qualities.

For me this is the best system that we could play to suit the players that we have available, it's offensive, has creativity, pace, a physical threat, 2 forward players working in tandem and still retains a solid base.

I actually quite like that. I know you said it's a 4-4-2 and, without wanting to go too much into formation semantics, it's quite like a Pellegrini-style 4-2-2-2. I reckon we could do that pretty well with those players. Lamela and Eriksen can play wider and are creative players. I'd like to see Ade link up with Soldado, it's worth a go.