Blatter - Fifa rule 6 + 5 rule

[Rocksuperstar]

And besides, surely the fact that these teams pay to compete in a league governed by a private body of non-elected representatives on the board, rules can be set for international competition, such as the European cup competitions? If that was the case then surely A1GP is in breach of the same laws, as would be most olympic teams? :shrug:

 

[we_all_loved_freund]

Illegal? It potentially conflicts with free movement of workers and Article 39, but is certainly not illegal. The case law apparently suggests it could be applicable to professional sportsman but it's not as set in stone as you say.

Absolutely correct! you've also got to consider what sanctions the EU could impose for any contravention... I can't imagine any that would have too much effect :shrug:

 

[Bobbins]

Funny, nothing was announced to stop decades of domination by Italian and Spanish teams. Remember Barca, Real and Valencia all reaching the latter stages of the CL? All we heard was how this was due to the strength of La Liga, not how it should be stopped.

It's true though, never in a million years would the FA or UEFA accept it, and it would never get through the courts, any form of quota system is just asking to be challenged under European employment law.

Ignore it for what it is - the insane ravings of a massively corrupt, power-bought man, with genuine mental health issues.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Illegal? It potentially conflicts with free movement of workers and Article 39, but is certainly not illegal. The case law apparently suggests it could be applicable to professional sportsman but it's not as set in stone as you say.

I'm sorry stoof but certainly where EU players are concerned it is catagorically illegal.

Non EU you are at the behest Immigration who I thnk generally consult and defer to a football based committee

 

[Destroyer]

I agree with this rule totally - there was a ruling years back, but somehow it got over turned. Teams like Arsenal would be screwed under these rules, bring it on !!!

You got my vote !

 

[Stoof]

I'm sorry stoof but certainly where EU players are concerned it is catagorically illegal.

Non EU you are at the behest Immigration who I thnk generally consult and defer to a football based committee

My problem was with the word 'illegal'. Platini can't declare anything anything. :shrug:

I hate EU law, and detested it at Uni - and just about scraped a pretty average mark - but the concept of it being illegal just didn't sound or sit right with me.

 

[JKSpurs]

The best idea Blatter ever came up with was if womens football was to become popular they needed to wear tighter fitting smaller kits.

He should just concentrate on pushing that through as the guy is an idiot. While you have people like him at the helm of world football nothing will ever move on.

I hate governing bodies, such as FIFA and the F.A. They are generally full of people so out of touch and so interested in there own self importance it unbelivable.

Also as a side note, has anyone seen the you tube clip of John Terry spitting at Carlos Tevez ? Why do the media not pick up on this kind of thing ! I hate him with a passion also.... Rant over

 

[Yiddo1982]

You can only play 3 or 4 non-EU nationalities in Spain (and Italy, i think.)
I remember i used to spend millions of pounds on South Americans on Champ Manager, back in the day, not realising that I could only play 3 of them.

So, what's the difference in the eyes of the law between British and EU-based

 

[barkerboy]

I thought British players were well represented in the final, think it is a stupid rule, it should be up to the grass roots to produce better players. simple.

 

[Bronno]

You can only play 3 or 4 non-EU nationalities in Spain (and Italy, i think.)
I remember i used to spend millions of pounds on South Americans on Champ Manager, back in the day, not realising that I could only play 3 of them.

So, what's the difference in the eyes of the law between British and EU-based

Now? Effectively nothing. In principle at least, as a national of a member state of the EU, you are to be treated exactly the same as nationals of the host member state which you are residing in, subject to some exceptions and limitations (so no pedantic comments from certain people...)

 

[houstonspur]

I like the rule, but a downside is that it would inflate the prices of British/English players even more than they are currently.

 

[Bingy]

English talent is in no way going to prosper....we have just had it for 100 years and with what reward 1 WC (at home with a dodgy Ref)? The EPL needs the foreign imports to stay where it is. Why not just go the3 whole hog and ban all foreigners at (or non whites for that matter!). A clean....WHITES ONLY will work....DREAM ON mes braves! lol. We will have an EPL full of Terry's and Beckhams while the Berby's and Ronaldo's go where the World Class players are....Spain, Italy etc! It did not work in the past and I DOUBT that it will work in the future. Home grown MUST exclude the Welsh, Scots and Irish (both varieties). It brings us back to the GB team discussion?
It will soon be time to dispose of the 3 Home Nations...at last and implement the ONE Team - ONE Nation....or visa versa? Time may be up for the FA/SFA and WFA?
So which do you prefer? I just want ONE Spurs....with the cream of the world talent at its centre.....COYS!

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I thought British players were well represented in the final, think it is a stupid rule, it should be up to the grass roots to produce better players. simple.

but all the money that's needed to find and "nurture", for want of a better word, talent isn't there, it's all being eaten up by the premiership - the major clubs are now businesses which means they consider the other clubs as competitors, in which case they will do all they can to attract as much of the money to themselves and starve the opposition. If it carries on like this, with profit margins dictating success over results, i can see a lot of the lower league teams really struggling in the next few years, unless they have some owner with bottomless pockets, prepared to shell out.

The wealth needs to be redistributed but, because of shareholders and directors demanding their cut, the wealth is lumped into a few pockets and everyone else has to scrabble around for scraps.

 

[Teofilo-Stevenson]

It's not illegal as players can still be 'employed' by the club, it's just they can't merely be picked for the starting 11

No, it wouldn't be illegal because players 'couldn't be employed' - it would fall foul because it impinges on the freedom of EU nationals to seek employment anywhere in the EU without discriminatory conditions.

We, as UK citizens can freely seek employment in any EU country without discrimination as to nationality, conversely any EU national can seek employment in the UK.

The 6+5 rule would disadvantage non-UK players (to the benefit UK players) when it came to seeking work in the UK and would therefore fall foul of European employment law.

A quota of non-EU players could leagally be upheld, as they do not enjoy the same level of protection from Brussels - a similar rule has been in use in Spain for some time now.

 

[whatsappnin]

Blatter in the past has stated british talent would qualify

The only proof you have is your Passport and so British we are! simple really.

 

[llamafarmer]

No idea about the legitimacy of it, but I think it needs to be done. Would have to be brought in gradually though.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

My problem was with the word 'illegal'. Platini can't declare anything anything. :shrug:

I hate EU law, and detested it at Uni - and just about scraped a pretty average mark - but the concept of it being illegal just didn't sound or sit right with me.

Right on cue, well a little late actually but:


http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_3621074,00.html

 

[DC_Boy]

I just hope we can see a bit more equal treatment (as has already been alluded to by BC I think) re dishing out work permits - it's scandalous the way other EU countries are able to tap into a whole pool of cheap but good talent denied to English clubs

 

[Rocksuperstar]

I don't understand how a privately funded and run sporting event can have these rules applied, yet A1GP, F1 and even darts are all played at a professional, competitive level and are ignored - surely, if for inter-european competitions only, UEFA can argue that?

 

[worcestersauce]

I caught a bit on this on Sky sports this morning and they kept referring to home grown players being English players.
Does anyone know if there has been any official claryfication on whether this encompasses all of the home countries not just England?
Previously it did but I trust Blatter about as much as I trust chelsea not to cheat so beware the smiling gnome from zurich.
This could affect us as much as anyone else if Welsh, Scots and Irish are not included!
Plus as I recall last time there were quotas average English players were going for stupid money 3 times what a non English player was fetching.

Is this really a good thing?
Is it really the answer or just a well meaning amateurish bureacratic nonsense doomed to fail.
Or is it something more sinister?

As it happens I think it will only take one club to refer it to the EU tribunal and it will be blown out of the water.





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