nailsy
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That's brilliant. I was thinking earlier that a few recently retired players could do worse than go out there and play for a season.
Brazilian plane crash.
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That's brilliant. I was thinking earlier that a few recently retired players could do worse than go out there and play for a season.
rossdapep
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There's a bit of uproar as the President of the Brazilian FA (CBF), Marco Polo Del Nero, hasn't bothered to fly out to Medellin to pay his respects or represent the Chapecoense players and staff. Instead he is persisting that Chape must finish the season and play their remaining game.
Not only is this guy corrupt prick (ex-FIFA) he's also an insensitive corrupt prick. The pundits on TV are rightly laying into him right now.
Not only is this guy corrupt prick (ex-FIFA) he's also an insensitive corrupt prick. The pundits on TV are rightly laying into him right now.
rossdapep
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This would be awesome, well, as long as Ronaldinho put in the effort and doesn't treat it like some exhibition matches.
The pilot repeatedly advising low fuel doesn't prioritise them. The pilot should have declared a Mayday call. The reports states at no point did he follow the procedure for an emergency situation. By not declaring an emergency in the international language, the ATC would have assumed the situation was not critical. Most airlines are struggling with the costs of aviation fuel so its very common for planes to run low on fuel. Ryan Air have had to log several incidents where their pilots have reported low fuel recently because their policy is to carry only just enough fuel to make the flight. An ATC will probably have several reports of low fuel every day. Infact, the plane that was cleared before this one was also reporting low fuel and a fuel leak.
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Greed
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Looks like this was made up. Infuriates me how Facebook and Twitter accounts will make stuff up in order to get as many RTs and Likes as possible.
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http://www.independent.co.uk/travel...nair-cut-fuel-levels-for-flights-8749046.html
This has been highlighted years ago and nothing has been done about it. Unfortunately the scenario warned about in this article, where two planes are critically short of fuel approaching the same airport at the same time forcing ATC to prioritise and with a bit of miscommunication thrown in and you have a disaster.
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Madness really. Someone should just enforce the airlines to carry a sufficient amount of fuel, similar to how lorry drivers are limited to how long they can drive for. it shouldn't be down to the airliner.
I think companies like Ryan Air have the attitude of what can we get away with rather than how safe can we make our passengers.
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This was a privately chartered flight unless I'm very much mistaken
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Private haulage firms still have to adhere to the laws. Make it law and they will have no choice.
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When I was getting a flight last Wednesday there was a delay as the plane refuelled. Some of the other passengers were getting pretty irritated by it all. This was Easy Jet, so my view was every drop counts and let's not rush them. Wouldn't say I was worried, but I was sat there thinking about how dumb it is that these planes fly at the minimum fuel when it's a pretty crucial aspect of flight safety. Even short flights should have to carry a surplus for emergencies.
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there's this:
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/colombia-plane-crash-what-we-know-about-avro-rj85-n689426
range of that plane with standard tanks is 1842 miles, distance of flight was 1848 miles. surely they knew that, right?
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/colombia-plane-crash-what-we-know-about-avro-rj85-n689426
range of that plane with standard tanks is 1842 miles, distance of flight was 1848 miles. surely they knew that, right?
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-38178673
The pilot of a charter plane that crashed in Colombia on Monday had been warned before taking off from an airport in Bolivia that he might not have enough fuel, a reports say. An airport official raised the concern after checking the plane's flight plan, Bolivia's Deber newspaper said.
Colombian authorities have said evidence is growing that the British-made BAE 146 Avro RJ85 aircraft ran out of fuel as it tried to land at Medellin airport. Experts say it was flying at, or very near, its maximum range. In a leaked tape, the pilot, Miguel Quiroga, can be heard warning of a "total electric failure" and "lack of fuel".
On Thursday, Bolivia's aviation authority suspended the operating licence of charter airline LaMia, which was part-owned by Mr Quiroga, and two other aviation officials.
Its a dangerous game playing 'guess the reason' before the full facts emerge but this doesn't look good.
The pilot of a charter plane that crashed in Colombia on Monday had been warned before taking off from an airport in Bolivia that he might not have enough fuel, a reports say. An airport official raised the concern after checking the plane's flight plan, Bolivia's Deber newspaper said.
Colombian authorities have said evidence is growing that the British-made BAE 146 Avro RJ85 aircraft ran out of fuel as it tried to land at Medellin airport. Experts say it was flying at, or very near, its maximum range. In a leaked tape, the pilot, Miguel Quiroga, can be heard warning of a "total electric failure" and "lack of fuel".
On Thursday, Bolivia's aviation authority suspended the operating licence of charter airline LaMia, which was part-owned by Mr Quiroga, and two other aviation officials.
Its a dangerous game playing 'guess the reason' before the full facts emerge but this doesn't look good.
There was a scheduled refuelling stop that they missed due to a delayed departure. The pilot should have then diverted to Bogota to refuel. For reasons probably known only to him he didn't. I think probably the thoughts of his bosses and who he had on board maybe played on his mind?
IfiHadTheWings
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Wow that is hard viewing. Tragic.
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Read my previous post. It seems he was the boss, or one of them at least.
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It amazes me how quickly Easyjet turn flights around, and how many miles those planes fly in a day.
Every so often I travel to Geneva for work, and usually catch the last flight of the day back to Luton.
I've previously tracked the plane and it's done three, if not four, flights before it gets to Geneva.
It usually arrives into Geneva from Luton around 9pm and by 9.20 we're leaving!!!
