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You're not bad if I'm honest but there are some really funny posts by a lot of others.
Oh and that @Bus-Conductor post to slap down Mullers was pure sex
Best compliment since the wife left
You're not bad if I'm honest but there are some really funny posts by a lot of others.
Oh and that @Bus-Conductor post to slap down Mullers was pure sex
You're not bad if I'm honest but there are some really funny posts by a lot of others.
Oh and that @Bus-Conductor post to slap down Mullers was pure sex
They dont really do anything different to ENIC though, they just happened to to hire good managers.I don't think all american are as bad as Glazer. John W Henry has done a great job for Liverpool, as well as those American owners in Roma.
Yes and no, they took over within the last two years and won their division and they got to the national league championship series last year but lost in 6 games. The NLCS is kind of like the champions league semi finals. It's the championship game for the national league, with the winner going to the world series. So they won their division (5 teams) and got 2nd in their league (15 teams)But have they won trophies or sacked coaches?
They dont really do anything different to ENIC though, they just happened to to hire good managers.
Eh? I was talking about Fenway and how they have run Liverpool so far. I haven't got a clue what you're going on about.Sorry. They buy projects for value; Arab, Yank and German development for property gain.
ENIC cannot cope with this and Joe Lewis would be daft to NOT let it happen.
This group seem to be intent in investment and THFC is perfect for all of them.
Which is brilliantly put considering your username!This thread is funny, so many people talking in terms they don't actually understand
Tottenham sale: Cain Hoy approach "very serious" as experienced investors eye bid
The American investment firm are eyeing a move for the Premier League side and are said to be optimistic a deal can be reached
Spurs are set to be the subject of a sensational cash takeover by an American investment firm.
It comes just days after Mirror Sport exclusively revealed that Tottenham owner Joe Lewis is ready to sell and that the asking price has been set at £1billion.
Cain Hoy, owned by a group of wealthy US businessmen, have confirmed they are seriously considering a move and have until October 10 at 5pm to confirm a formal bid.
A source told Mirror Sport on Friday: “This is a very serious approach from experienced investors with several billions behind them.”
Cain Hoy Enterprises was launched on Thursday and focuses on global real estate, retail, media and entertainment.
Head of the company’s European investments is London-born Jonathan Goldstein, a Spurs fan and season ticket holder.
A statement said: “Cain Hoy confirms that it is at the preliminary stages of assessing a cash offer for Tottenham Hotspur.”
Chief executive of the firm is US-based Henry Silverman, a self-made hotels and car-rental multi-millionaire.
Spurs - who claimed on Thursday not to be in talks over a takeover - have admitted speaking to Cain Hoy but insisted it was part of “discussions with multiple providers of finance” for their new £400million stadium project.
The north Londoners added: “There are no ongoing discussions with Cain Hoy.”
Cain Hoy, however, are optimistic a deal can be reached.
So many posts, so little knowledge.
I can't count the number of one or two line posts confidently [arrogantly] asserting what people 'feel' or 'know', based on a total absence of information, a surfeit of cynicism and a wrong-headed application of football principles to finance and investment.
It's the most ignorant collective contribution I've ever seen on SC - and that's a major achievement.
I'm emphatically not going to tell everyone what I 'know' or 'feel' is going to happen, because it's as uncertain to me as it ought to be to everyone else. I am going to continue to try to read the runes and indications and use some logic to work out what the motivations of the players might be, as opposed to the ludicrously simplistic versions of ENIC's intentions that litter this thread.
The initial story was incompetent nonsense. It implied a hostile takeover, which is an impossibility, and repeatedly confused THFC with a listed company, which it isn't. It took a scrap of tittle-tattle and built a whole edifice of mythical imminent dealings around it.
Back in the real world, if someone is daft enough to offer ENIC a multiple of the current value of the club, then they would be foolish not to sell, because buying, adding value and then selling at the opportune moment is what they do. But no one is likely to make such an offer, certainly not canny financiers of the kind whom ENIC has been approaching to fund the NDP (which includes Cain Hoy).
If no one offers them idiot-money, then it would be against ENIC's business model to sell, because they have a pending project that would add a huge amount of value to the asset. There's no profit in abandoning a project before it adds value to your asset. You have to add the value first and then sell promptly.
That's what I meant by 'use some logic to work out what the motivations of the players might be'. Use your fucking heads, people! Preferably before you post.
I can guarantee that those to whom you refer will read this, shake their hands and say to themselves "He don't mean me"This thread is funny, so many people talking in terms they don't actually understand
Please don't put a spoiler on this. It's our chance to get carried away and believe someones going to come in and buy everyone making us the greatest team the world has ever seen. With a million capacity stadium, that has lap dancers at half time.
Don't take it away from us.
Please don't put a spoiler on this. It's our chance to get carried away and believe someones going to come in and buy everyone making us the greatest team the world has ever seen. With a million capacity stadium, that has lap dancers at half time.
Don't take it away from us.
No.
Levy expected Jol to get champions league football on a shoestring budget with Carrick and Jenas in midfield.
So if Levy doesn't appreciate that our ability to compete financially has some bearing, why the hell should I?
It's not entirely his fault, coaches, players take the responsibility too. Levy appoints the coach thus takes blame as well as credit.
Then either he should get the hell out or stop placing unrealistic expectations on coaches
I am measuring Levy by his own standards which he sets out for coaches, he expected to Jol to get 4th on a shoestring budget after he had taken us from 9th to 5th which was our best finish in the premiership.
For Jol there wasn't any sob story/excuses, it was a text at half time from his nephew telling him he doesn't have a job any more.
Sarcastic? No one's being sarcastic.I expect you're being sarcastic, but that really isn't the tone of the thread. It's mainly paranoia and ill-informed fear. That and an opportunity for people to air their thoughtless cynicism about ENIC and their total lack of understanding about how development, investment and asset-management work. I'm no expert on high finance, but I work alongside them and often for them, so I get to see how their minds work, plus I was the hands-on working treasurer of a non-profit for 20 years.
The snap-judgments that are all over SC today just aren't realistic versions of how these people operate. It's like a pinhead's view of finance, writ large and writ repeatedly.
How many times does it have to be said that if it wasn't for those two receiving free power-ups, we'd have been a top 4 fixture for years along with United, Arsenal and Liverpool?
They won the lottery, and there's nothing we could've or can do about it.