And while England will lose Arsenal from the Champions League, Italy could lose Milan and Germany Schalke tomorrow. Regardless, what is the an untapped gold mine for England when it comes to the coefficient is the Europa where there are still four clubs. People underestimate it. But Germany used that competition to overtake Italy and it's why Spain is ahead of England now. England still has four sides (Liverpool being in the worse condition with a 2-0 away leg) while Italy has 3 (Napoli lost their home leg 3-0 and Lazio drew Gladbach 3-3) and Germany has 4 (aside from Gladbach, Leverkusen drew 1-1 home to Genk, Hannover lost 3-1 at Anzi and Stuttgart lost 1-0 at home). So there is where England could offset Germany and keep ahead of Italy.
Arsenal were never going to beat Bayern, especially over 2 legs.
Bayern define german efficiency, as proved last night. They are a well oiled machine, who I'd rated 2nd best in the world behind Barca
OK I'll put it out there, I know it's lurking deep within the recesses of your minds.
Could we get 4th and lose out again by Arsenal winning the Champions league?
What's the chances?
Absolutely none. But I said that when Gareth lined up the second free kick against Lyon.
Can't happen mate let Walker have a go.
But there's plenty of people struck by lightning twice in their lives, if they survive the first one.
So now England got full points today and have four sides still in Europa. Spain are down to one, Germany are down to one and Italy two (and we can take care of one of them in the next round). With Spain looking surprisingly in bad shape, I think we could see them come as low as 4th this year with England actually catching them a little.
Liverpool are out.