Ched Evans Jailed...

[tototoner]

scored over 30 goals this season for Sheffield Utd

I think he'll appeal

 

[thinktank]

That's in no way the same thing, he accepted there was no force involved, he didn't accept that she said yes whilst knowing what she was saying. That's the entire basis for the conviction. Given she hasn't agreed she said yes ( at least not form the media reports ) the ruling that there was no force involved could equally mean she was flat out unconscious. Not much force needed to fuck an unconscious body is there? Targeting and premeditation have no bearing on anything other than mitigation in terms of sentencing.

But how can that possibly be established without a concrete witness to her actually being unconscious; if she even was??

There just appears to be too much supposition and assumption here for there to be such a verdict.

This isn't right and I'm convinced many many people feel a deep unease at this particular area of the law.

 

[gilzeantheking]

This case is all about consent. Enough of the facts have been released to point to this case being balanced on how that consent was established. And enough has been released to indicate the conditions under which that consent was given was the central pillar of the prosecution's case.

Don't need to be a fly on the wall in court to have solid opinion on this...enough details are out to warrant a hell of a lot of justified questions.

No consent = rape

consent for one but not the other = rape

inability to consent (eg through drink or drugs) = rape

No wonder most women don't report sexual offences.

 

[jimtheyid]

If twelve members of the public, having seen all the evidence, believe that it is rape. Then who am I to argue.

 

[thinktank]

No consent = rape

consent for one but not the other = rape

inability to consent (eg through drink or drugs) = rape

No wonder most women don't report sexual offences.

That one.

The other two are obviously very problematic.

 

[SugarRay]

She is a slag without a doubt but slags can also get raped.

 

[vavaboom]

She is a slag without a doubt but slags can also get raped.

Now there is a sentence I've never seen before

 

[Welshiespursboyo]

Until it has been proven otherwise, having NOT been in court to hear everything, then I can only assume there was enough evidence for the Jury to convict him 'beyond reasonable doubt' - which makes him a **** of the ****iest variety.

Of course, things may change on appeal.

 

[SugarRay]

Now there is a sentence I've never seen before

My way of saying just because her morals and levels of self respect are somewhat questionable, it still doesn't mean she can't be raped.

Too many people these days seem quick to imply the girl brought it upon herself.

 

[tototoner]

He was named in PFA League 1 Team of the Season last night

http://www.teamtalk.co.za/league-one/7694094/PFA-Team-of-the-Year-League-One

 

[dav3j]

Sheffield United fans online are coming out with the sort of responses you'd expect them to. Quite sickening really.

 

[miles_64]

Does anyone know who was responsible for naming the girl? Was it a team-mate?

 

[MattyP]

Does anyone know who was responsible for naming the girl? Was it a team-mate?

I think it was her parents.

 

[FinnYid]

Until it has been proven otherwise, having NOT been in court to hear everything

Dunno why press would not publish all key issues here?

 

[hellava_tough]

Dunno why press would not publish all key issues here?

You can make a Freedom of Information Act request if you want

 

[$hoguN]

Cases like this are tough as it is basically one persons word against the other.

This is further muddied by the addition of large quantities of alcohol.

If she gave consent to the other guy, then how much more alcohol did she consume between then and when Evans was on the scene? However, it is stated that she has said she has no memory of how she got to them room. If that is the case how can she remember who she gave consent too, and how can it be decided when she said yes to one she was sober enough but too drunk for evans??

It seems the reasoning for the judgement is leaving a hole in it big enough to drive a lorry through it. Released pretty quickly on appeal i think.

This is just a guess, but the fact she was seen happily going back to guys room who was not convicted probably suggests that there was a level of consent

 

[nailsy]

This is just a guess, but the fact she was seen happily going back to guys room who was not convicted probably suggests that there was a level of consent

That would be my guess as well - although wasn't there CCTV footage of her being clearly shitfaced and hardly able to walk before going to the hotel? I can see why he was let off and the other bloke who just turned up in the hotel room to shag a half conscious girl was locked up.

 

[$hoguN]

That would be my guess as well - although wasn't there CCTV footage of her being clearly shitfaced and hardly able to walk before going to the hotel? I can see why he was let off and the other bloke who just turned up in the hotel room to shag a half conscious girl was locked up.

Yeah, but in the footage she is does seem to be happily going with the guy and is not fighting him off.

It strikes me as fairly obvious why the second guy was locked up too, but like I said I'm not privy to all the facts.

 

[beats1]

If twelve members of the public, having seen all the evidence, believe that it is rape. Then who am I to argue.

Exactly, its amazing how many people still think they know better than the law despite not seeing all the evidence and his girlfriend is a idiot as well, starting a Facebook campaign to free her boyfriend, just fucking appeal, stupid cow

Yeah, but in the footage she is does seem to be happily going with the guy and is not fighting him off.

It strikes me as fairly obvious why the second guy was looked up to, but like I said I'm not privy to all the facts.

Surely the video proves she wasn't in a fit state to give consent rather than the question if she went willingly

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

Ched Evans will be remembered at Sheffield United’s Bramall Lane ground this afternoon with a round of applause in the ninth minute of the televised home game, and in the 35th minute.​

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