Christian Eriksen - Completed

[Blackcanary]

I would be disappointed if we paid a penny over 10m for him. He is not the immediate answer, and he represents extremely poor value at this point in time.

I think this is dead on. The player himself has said recently that he thinks he still has a way to go to be consistently good and it wouldn't be a case of getting him as a little known bargain - he's very highly-rated and will cost accordingly. I can't believe we'd shell out a fortune for a player who we'll have to develop.

 

[deselina]

From Spurs perspective: If we are going to spend that much money on him as is being rumored, then we want a pretty solid product. Eriksen has shown flashes of greatness but on the whole season has not been great. Consistency is something that separates the good players from the great. I'm sure if we intend on dishing out 20m, we want that player to be of the 'great' variety. Also, I'm sure a Summer of training will do him good to get acclimated into the squad. I'm not sure how well he would transition immediately, and for me, that's what the January window is primarily about.

He's pretty consistant. Last season was below standard for him according to everyone, but Narsingh (most in Eredivisie) only had 1 assist more than him. I think his performances against City have shown that he has what it takes to succeed in the PL. Don't forget that Ajax have won in Manchester before against United in the EL, they only went out on goal difference.

 

[deselina]

However, 20m is a lot for any club, and we do have a lot of attractiveness that we can bring to the table with Eriksen (Vertonghen for example) that might hold up against other clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool.

Can't use Vertonghen as a factor. Arsenal have Vermaelen and Liverpool have Suarez.

 

[deselina]

ook at how much we paid them for Vertonghen, and he was the Eredivisie player of the season.

Key difference though is that there's more interest in Eriksen. Ajax defenders (or defenders in general) are usually going for a lot less than the midfielders and forwards. Vermaelen, Heitinga, VDW, Maxwell, Anita etc. went for peanuts compared to Huntelaar (27m to Real Madrid), Sneijder (27,5 to Real Madrid) and Suarez (26,5 to Liverpool).

 

[Hitch]

Key difference though is that there's more interest in Eriksen. Ajax defenders (or defenders in general) are usually going for a lot less than the midfielders and forwards. Vermaelen, Heitinga, VDW, Maxwell, Anita etc. went for peanuts compared to Huntelaar (27m to Real Madrid), Sneijder (27,5 to Real Madrid) and Suarez (26,5 to Liverpool).

Indeed, but the reason why I flagged Vertonghen as a comparison is because he was in a similar contractual situation to the one that Eriksen will find himself in this Summer with one year of his contract remaining. His reputation and position is why, as I said, I expect him to go for around £12m as opposed to the £7-8m we paid for Vertonghen.

That price could potentially inflate to something like £15m if a significant bidding war erupts but I don't expect clubs to go in too high for him unless he has a barnstorming second half of the season. RVP went for only £22m and he was already proven as the best player in arguably the best league and had tons of top clubs interested in taking him on. Eriksen will have interest but I don't expect it will be from the elite.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

12-15m represents reasonable money for a player of Eriksen's ability, skilset and potential. Creative players always come at a higher premium, and players like him are pretty rare. Intelligent creatives. If we don't get him Wenger will, he's just his type. Chelsea and ManC would pay over the odds just to sit him on their benches.

 

[Misfit]

Eriksen, as tidy a player as he is right now, is still mostly just potential. He'll not be going for too much more than £10m if his contract sitch stays as is. There'll be no bidding war by European giants. A Sneijder he ain't.

I'm almost hoping we don't have a chance of signing him. We'll potentially miss out on a superior player otherwise and I'm not sure we have the 2 or 3 seasons we'd have to wait for him to grow into the role. At which point he'll promptly fuck off to Milan or Citeh or Barca anyway.

Still worse case scenario - we have our midfield as is or with the addition of Eriksen. Not sure I could be unhapy with the addition of his nibs in those circs. I'd welcome it in fact. Just hope he surprises me and doesn't spend the first 18 months watching games pass him by/getting the shit kicked out of him by Stoke, WHam etc if it happens.

 

[Misfit]

12-15m represents reasonable money for a player of Eriksen's ability, skilset and potential. Creative players always come at a higher premium, and players like him are pretty rare. Intelligent creatives. If we don't get him Wenger will, he's just his type. Chelsea and ManC would pay over the odds just to sit him on their benches.

Would they pay over the odds? Not sure they would tbh, not unless he's on a longer contract. Then again this is the chanvs and citeh we're talking about.

I could see Fergie taking a punt though.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Eriksen, as tidy a player as he is right now, is still mostly just potential. He'll not be going for too much more than £10m if his contract sitch stays as is. There'll be no bidding war by European giants. A Sneijder he ain't.

I'm almost hoping we don't have a chance of signing him. We'll potentially miss out on a superior player otherwise and I'm not sure we have the 2 or 3 seasons we'd have to wait for him to grow into the role. At which point he'll promptly fuck off to Milan or Citeh or Barca anyway.

Still worse case scenario - we have our midfield as is or with the addition of Eriksen. Not sure I could be unhapy with the addition of his nibs in those circs. I'd welcome it in fact. Just hope he surprises me and doesn't spend the first 18 months watching games pass him by/getting the shit kicked out of him by Stoke, WHam etc if it happens.

I couldn't disagree more. Now is the perfect time for us to buy Eriksen. If he's fulfilled his potential, it's too late for us. If he fulfils it with us, we get 3/4 years or a great little player in a position we desperately need and the type of player we desperately need (i.e. one with a brain) then we inevitably turn a fat profit when Real Madrid come calling.

It is exactly when, who (type) and how we should be doing business.

 

[Misfit]

I couldn't disagree more. Now is the perfect time for us to buy Eriksen. If he's fulfilled his potential, it's too late for us. If he fulfils it with us, we get 3/4 years or a great little player in a position we desperately need and the type of player we desperately need (i.e. one with a brain) then we inevitably turn a fat profit when Real Madrid come calling.

It is exactly when, who (type) and how we should be doing business.

You may disagree with me but I don't disagree with you. I think. My worry is exactly that. Is he ready enough? I'm really not sure he is. Not in terms of talent. He obviously has intelligence and vision, qualities I know you agree with me that come top of the list.

You sound more willing to roll the dice on this one. Fair enough. As it stands he'd strengthen our midfield, no doubt about it.

A Mouts though, if at all doable, would make us far more money in the next 3 r 4 yrs than selling Eriksen on for a phat profit would. 3 or 4 multiplied by £20m-£30m is a lot of moolah and I firmly believe we'd get top 4 with a Mouts in the side. A CM coming just into peak who is ready-made.

Then I find myself, even if hypothetically, entertaining the notion of us actually paying up for Mouts and begin crying when I realise my delusions ans fantasies have come back to haunt me.

Eriksen it is then. I can live with that.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

You may disagree with me but I don't disagree with you. I think. My worry is exactly that. Is he ready enough? I'm really not sure he is. Not in terms of talent. He obviously has intelligence and vision, qualities I know you agree with me that come top of the list.

You sound more willing to roll the dice on this one. Fair enough. As it stands he'd strengthen our midfield, no doubt about it.

A Mouts though, if at all doable, would make us far more money in the next 3 r 4 yrs than selling Eriksen on for a phat profit would. 3 or 4 multiplied by £20m-£30m is a lot of moolah and I firmly believe we'd get top 4 with a Mouts in the side. A CM coming just into peak who is ready-made.

Then I find myself, even if hypothetically, entertaining the notion of us actually paying up for Mouts and begin crying when I realise my delusions ans fantasies have come back to haunt me.

Eriksen it is then. I can live with that.

Eriksen would strengthen our attack, Moutinho our midfield. I'd love both but Eriksen financially makes much more sense. One player never guarantees you CL. Having Modric didn't for 3 out of 4 years, and he's better than Moutinho.

 

[only1waddle]

I couldn't disagree more. Now is the perfect time for us to buy Eriksen. If he's fulfilled his potential, it's too late for us. If he fulfils it with us, we get 3/4 years or a great little player in a position we desperately need and the type of player we desperately need (i.e. one with a brain) then we inevitably turn a fat profit when Real Madrid come calling.

It is exactly when, who (type) and how we should be doing business.

You may disagree with me but I don't disagree with you. I think. My worry is exactly that. Is he ready enough? I'm really not sure he is. Not in terms of talent. He obviously has intelligence and vision, qualities I know you agree with me that come top of the list.

You sound more willing to roll the dice on this one. Fair enough. As it stands he'd strengthen our midfield, no doubt about it.

A Mouts though, if at all doable, would make us far more money in the next 3 r 4 yrs than selling Eriksen on for a phat profit would. 3 or 4 multiplied by £20m-£30m is a lot of moolah and I firmly believe we'd get top 4 with a Mouts in the side. A CM coming just into peak who is ready-made.

Then I find myself, even if hypothetically, entertaining the notion of us actually paying up for Mouts and begin crying when I realise my delusions ans fantasies have come back to haunt me.

Eriksen it is then. I can live with that.

Tell DL to get both

 

[Misfit]

Eriksen would strengthen our attack, Moutinho our midfield. I'd love both but Eriksen financially makes much more sense. One player never guarantees you CL. Having Modric didn't for 3 out of 4 years, and he's better than Moutinho.

Indeed. For me though, Mouts in AVB's system would be much more effective than Modric was being shoehorned into a midfield 2. If only we'd been able to see Modric's full potential in a Spurs shirt. We were never able to, imo, and he was pretty fucking good even so.

 

[Misfit]

Tell DL to get both

And I thought madness was taking grip of my mind...

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Indeed. For me though, Mouts in AVB's system would be much more effective than Modric was being shoehorned into a midfield 2. If only we'd been able to see Modric's full potential in a Spurs shirt. We were never able to, imo, and he was pretty fucking good even so.

I agree about Modric, I think we saw a great player, but I think spending so much time in a cm2 water carrying was a waste a lot of the time.

The odd thing is Moutinho is better in a 433 too, and would also be wasted in cm2 IMO. He plays in a 433 for Porto and Portugal.

I would hope that if - miracle - we did sign Moutinho, AVB would switch to a 433.

 

[JayB]

I agree about Modric, I think we saw a great player, but I think spending so much time in a cm2 water carrying was a waste a lot of the time.

The odd thing is Moutinho is better in a 433 too, and would also be wasted in cm2 IMO. He plays in a 433 for Porto and Portugal.

I would hope that if - miracle - we did sign Moutinho, AVB would switch to a 433.

It goes without saying that we'd switch to 433 if we got Moutinho, that's precisely the reason why AVB is so desperate to buy him.

 

[We'llWinThePrem]

Imo, Eriksen is our back up if we don't get Moutinho

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Imo, Eriksen is our back up if we don't get Moutinho

Different players who play in different positions. Rumour has it that Sherwood/scouts are whispering Eriksen's name to Levy but AVB is less keen. That's what I read on here somewhere anyway.

 

[DotNetCoder]

Different players who play in different positions.

Agreed, but they're not vastly different.

A fallback bid could still be for a player who doesn't cover the exact same role, but still offers great footballing ability for the money.

 

[Misfit]

Different players who play in different positions. Rumour has it that Sherwood/scouts are whispering Eriksen's name to Levy but AVB is less keen. That's what I read on here somewhere anyway.

I vaguely remember something similar to that myself. If those rumours are true then DL should obviously back the man he trusts, sack AVB and install Timothy as manager ASAP. If he doesn't do that I'll have to assume DL is a fucking imcompetent to not only be that indesicive but also be so willing to repeat past costly mistakes so readily or that those rumours might be a little overblown.

We'll find out soon I guess. Maybe, I know the absence of some kind of agenda or politiking make this rather unsexy but here goes, AVB really wants Mouts but if the financials don't add up then he's happy enough/OK with Eriksen being the fall back option.