Clinton N'Jie SIGNED

[Joely410]

If we sign this fella at the expense of not signing berahino then I fucking give up, always potential instead of someone to come in hit the ground running.........ill be royally pissed off!!

1) This guy is basically on the same level as Berahino when it comes to Current Ability vs Potential. I'd love both but market economics dictate certain patterns will always emerge.

2) Your breaking point comes up at us spending money on a position we are begging for reinforcements in? So you'd rather we just sat on our hands?

 

[joelstinton14]

Watching the videos of the st etienne and the bordeaux matches, i can see why we are *apparently* after him. Seems Lyon play as what Poch is trying to install into our team, Quick high pressing and attacking in numbers. A lot of their plays (ugh so NFL) are similar to ours.

The kid as good attributes, and ones that don't really have in our team - pace and his off the ball runs into channels and across defenders.

 

[Drexl]

FML, this thread has turned into a monster. It's absolutely shocking in here.

People are desperately trying to pick the bones out of the kid before he's even signed for us. Who'd be a footballer hey. I said it in the Hernandez thread and I'll say it here, this website is seemingly full of wannabe experts who most, in reality, haven't even seen a single minute of football from Clinton N'Jie and yet they've already written him off. It's embarrassing.

Read some comments from Lyon fans if you like, I couldn't give a flying crap what they think. Lyon are a selling club nowadays and that's not likely to change for a while. Their fans are used to losing their best players so have no doubt learnt how to detach themselves from caring about their players as they know just as they start to love them they'll be gone. I wouldn't expect them to be singing his praises anyway as he's only just broken through. Our new scouting system is clearly picking up on his potential more than anything else and see enough to want us to spend the money on him. Every signing has a risk attached to it, even when you'd consider it to be a slam dunk good deal it can go south on you, we all know this.

I've watched N'Jie play and whilst he absolutely is raw and has no doubt had some bad games, so has every single player in our current squad. The kid has clear ability and is nothing like any player we have right now.

If Kane gets injured then our season rests on this guy if he is bought in, it is not unreasonable to analyse what he would bring to the team, positive and negative

 

[mil1lion]

I reckon if we sign this guy then it's because we failed to sign Berahino. It's certainly a more risky one albeit a lot less money.

I don't know anything about the kid but it's the type of signing Southampton would make and people would look at his stats and think nothing of him. Then he'd end up doing wonders for them and people would moan that we didn't get him. For all we know he could be shit for Lyon and do great for us. Some players just click with the right team and if Pochettino sees him as the right choice for his system then we should have faith.

 

[SHaRD]

I'm pretty sure Nigel will be in addition to Berahino, not instead of him.

Remember they will be replacing all 3 of Ade, Soldado and Lennon

 

[DaSpurs]

I reckon if we sign this guy then it's because we failed to sign Berahino. It's certainly a more risky one albeit a lot less money.

I don't know anything about the kid but it's the type of signing Southampton would make and people would look at his stats and think nothing of him. Then he'd end up doing wonders for them and people would moan that we didn't get him. For all we know he could be shit for Lyon and do great for us. Some players just click with the right team and if Pochettino sees him as the right choice for his system then we should have faith.

I still think we missed a trick on Mane. I think he'd have been perfect for our needs.

I'm not sure about a failure to sign Berahino though. I still think we'll look for two pacey attackers in this window, as even one addition would still leave us a bit predictable.

 

[barry]

I read the Lyon forum. Most said he was shit to begin with but he had a meteoric rise and by the end he was decent (said he had 4-5 very good games at the end of the season) . This shows he can be taught and worked hard to improve.
They said his decision making was dubious but again might get better as he acclimatises to his team.
One poster made a valid point in stating he's a 21 year old kid 10000 km from home, which could definitely play a part in his inconsistent displays.
Another said the great lacazette at 21 didn't get near the stats this guy got. Another fair point
Lyon fans are happy to take the money on potential because it means they can strengthen other parts of the squad, and some just don't rate him.
I truly believe they'll miss him once he's gone, for all his faults his pace was an immense weapon in a team that plays like Lyon.
It's a gamble for sure, but his pace alone means it's one I'm willing to take.

 

[robin09]

'Raw' seems like estate agent speak. From the limited clips I've seen, 'raw' equates to erratic, inconsistent first touch and final ball. Is there potential? Yeah, he's quick, he plays in exactly the areas we are lacking, and his stats suggests he can score and assist.

Would I rather have a more complete player? Of course, but we can't afford the Depays of this world, so we have to keep going for 'raw' players and hope that a percentage of them are successful.

Sign him up, along with a couple of other attackers, but we'll have to be patient with him.

 

[JonnySpurs]

If Kane gets injured then our season rests on this guy if he is bought in, it is not unreasonable to analyse what he would bring to the team, positive and negative

No it won't, he's not being signed as the main backup to Harry Kane. He'll be an option sure but not his one and only backup.

Analysing is one thing but that's not what I've been reading in here.

 

[neilp]

I have followed his career and honestly I am a bit surprised Lyon are letting him leave if the rumours are true, I am more surprised with the price tag. Hey, our again is their loss.

pros- pace, intelligence, assist, scores, young, price tag is not crazy. Reseller value check ( happy days for levy)

cons - lacks physical attribute however you don't need to be a monster to succeed in this league, new to EPL.

I've "bumped" this comment as it seems to be completely ignored by most in here despite being more informative than all those writing him off over you tube clips

 

[JerryGarcia]

This is the mentality of a lot of posters nowadays, clamour for this guy then when hes about to sign pick him to pieces, it is genuinely shocking to think some people on here must actually smile in a day, let alone keep an open mind! and im not talking about having opinions or fears, I am talking about people forming preconceived notions before the guy has even signed! (He HAS a terrible touch, he HAS no vision) opinions are fine but how about we wait and see on the nuances of his game once he signs yeh?

The biggest judge you can often have of a player is what his fans think of him, and as far as ive seen he's almost universally praised by Lyon fans, his contribution is not under question

You know they'd be first in line to shoot you down if you made a positive post based on a youtube clip as well. The mind boggles

 

[mil1lion]

I still think we missed a trick on Mane. I think he'd have been perfect for our needs.

I'm not sure about a failure to sign Berahino though. I still think we'll look for two pacey attackers in this window, as even one addition would still leave us a bit predictable.

I just think we would have signed Njie by now if he was a priority. It just smacks of missing out on our top target (Berahino) and moving onto the next on the list (Njie)

I would actually prefer we sign Austin and Njie than Berahino and Njie though, I think they have better variety.

 

[degoose]

I've "bumped" this comment as it seems to be completely ignored by most in here despite being more informative than all those writing him off over you tube clips

cheers for that. I have heard of the guy before but not seen anything of him but he does seem to be a pacy player who can play on the wing and up front so it's definitely something we need. If we do sign him well we then just have to wait and see how he does.

 

[thelak]

Common denominator here is we sold or will sell all those at a profit.

To do is to dare!

 

[DaSpurs]

I just think we would have signed Njie by now if he was a priority. It just smacks of missing out on our top target (Berahino) and moving onto the next on the list (Njie)

I would actually prefer we sign Austin and Njie than Berahino and Njie though, I think they have better variety.

Yeah, I can't deny the possibility of what you propose, but of course there's all sorts of reasons which could be involved such as N'jie had to be convinced himself, Lyon were dragging feet, etc.

I think it more important we have variety with the collective whole of what we already have vs better variety just among the newcomers. Fact is, we already have plenty of not-quick attackers and have two of them capable of winning the ball in the air. What we lack severely is someone capable of beating a man both with or without the ball, and someone who likes to get in behind the opposition's back line rather than receive the ball in front of it and try to pass around it.

 

[dwaynedibley]

1) This guy is basically on the same level as Berahino when it comes to Current Ability vs Potential. I'd love both but market economics dictate certain patterns will always emerge.

2) Your breaking point comes up at us spending money on a position we are begging for reinforcements in? So you'd rather we just sat on our hands?

not on the same level as berahino at all, that is exactly my point, berahino is proven in the PL as well, he could come in and hit the ground running, at some point we need to start buying proven players and not potential all the time!!

 

[Spurrific]

not on the same level as berahino at all, that is exactly my point, berahino is proven in the PL as well, he could come in and hit the ground running, at some point we need to start buying proven players and not potential all the time!!

In the last few windows we've signed Dembele, Dempsey, Lloris, Vertonghen, Soldado, Capoue, Paulinho, Adebayor, Alderweireld, Trippier, Vorm, Davies, Chadli and probably a few I've forgotten. Hardly a bunch of unproven kids. The only true punts on potential I'd say we've made have been Eriksen and Lamela. Your gripe is irrational and unfounded.

 

[The Long Suffering One]

Seems like Valbuena is signing for Lyon.. replacement for Njie perhaps?

 

[St José Dominguez]

Anyone mentioned fact Valbuena signed for Lyon today?

 

[kitchen]

'Raw' seems like estate agent speak. From the limited clips I've seen, 'raw' equates to erratic, inconsistent first touch and final ball. Is there potential? Yeah, he's quick, he plays in exactly the areas we are lacking, and his stats suggests he can score and assist.

Would I rather have a more complete player? Of course, but we can't afford the Depays of this world, so we have to keep going for 'raw' players and hope that a percentage of them are successful.

Sign him up, along with a couple of other attackers, but we'll have to be patient with him.

He's got more of the qualities that we need than Depay. Depay is stronger, with better long shots, and better close control and dribbling. N'jie is quicker, better acceleration and better off-ball runs (Depay is more of a carrier than a player that runs in behind) and more likely to stretch the opposition back line. This is all about team balance and I can see why poch would want N'jie despite his current weaknesses in certain areas.