Danny Ings to Liverpool

[y1dk1d]

Well we've already established it's not a free due to his age and will be a substantial bid to let burnley agree and him talk to us. Townsend is not close to the damage bolasie can do. Game vs Sydney showed that. He's bloody awful

Yeah tbf Ings isn't free, forgot about that. I just believe that Ings would be a much more useful signing than Bolasie for the reasons I've already listed. Looks like we're just gonna have to agree to disagree

 

[Tobyisbest]

Yeah tbf Ings isn't free, forgot about that. I just believe that Ings would be a much more useful signing than Bolasie for the reasons I've already listed. Looks like we're just gonna have to agree to disagree

Agree

 

[jbstarr14]

Austin 18 goals for a just as bad club with much more impressive finishes. Strong player, grafts just as hard eg clearing sliding tackle off the line vs spurs. Ings will make no difference to our top 4 challenge

Austin doesn't work for the team the way Ings does. After years of watching Ade, Defoe, and to an extent Keane, play for themselves, we need a team player up there, who works his nuts of for us, the way Kane does .

 

[yojambo]

Where are you getting these stats from?

Whoscored has Bolasie as 6 assists and 4 goals and Lamela as 7 assists and 5 goals.

Besides it means fuck all. Bolasie isn't facing bus parkers each week like our attackers do. It takes a different skillset to create. Bolasie strengths lie in pace in power which is alright in a counter attacking team but we play on the front font, so require players with guile and intelligence to break down stubborn defences.

Some stats sites count getting fouled for penalties as assists. Bolasie has earned like 4 or 5 this season. Thats where the difference between your numbers is.

 

[Spursidol]

Yannick, est-ce vous?

'Oui' is what he should have replied.

Think all of his 40 odd posts have been to promote Bolassie and denigrate any other player, and subvert any rhread he's on into a Bolassie promotion thread

 

[Tobyisbest]

Austin doesn't work for the team the way Ings does. After years of watching Ade, Defoe, and to an extent Keane, play for themselves, we need a team player up there, who works his nuts of for us, the way Kane does .

Austin works his balls off and has made countless last ditch tackles in his own half. 2 vs us that without him would of resulted in a goal

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Austin works his balls off and has made countless last ditch tackles in his own half. 2 vs us that without him would of resulted in a goal

No striker makes 'countless last ditch tackles in his own half'. He did one clearance off the line in our match. That one clearance doesn't mean he does it every match.

 

[o1fozzybear]

Getting Ings would be a fantastic signing for us. And we desperately need another striker and in similar mould to Kane. But i'd also like another wing/ wide forward as i don't think our 3 of Townsend,Lamela and Chadli really cut it.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

I'm expecting potentially two CF's and one winger/WF. An Ings type striker who can come in now and add a bit of something, plus maybe a punt from abroad for the 3rd choice striker, giving us Kane, Ings and A.n.Other. Ade and Soldado to leave.
Had expected Ayew or Konolpyanka as the winger/WF, to add to Lamela, Chadli and Townsend.

 

[Audere_est_Facere]

Austin works his balls off and has made countless last ditch tackles in his own half. 2 vs us that without him would of resulted in a goal

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...ons/tackles_won/shot_accuracy/goals_scored#90

As this comparison shows:

• Ings is the most creative, Kane close in second and Austin quite a way behind.
• Ings is the best at take ons.
  
• Austin is the best in aerial duels.
• Kane and Ings nearly identical interceptions at 0.6 per 90 mins. Twice as many as Austin.
• Kane with most tackles won, Ings second. Austin less than half as many tackles as Kane.
• Austin best shooting accuracy
• Kane most goals scored. Ings less than half as many goals per 90 mins.

 

[glospur]

Different position. Bolasie will scare more teams. Full bks sit deep when he plays knowing you can't go forward. This arguement is pointless. Different positions but bolasie strikes fear into teams. Bolasie is a better player and in a better team would shine ridiculously. Ings is over hyped average. If we get him you'll see.

I'd rather someone who actually scores goals consistently than a player who 'scares' teams and scores the odd belter. Goals win games, not who scares defenders more.

 

[ShayLaB]

They really don't want him...

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=321545.0

 

[Syn_13]

http://www.squawka.com/comparison-m...ons/tackles_won/shot_accuracy/goals_scored#90

As this comparison shows:

• Ings is the most creative, Kane close in second and Austin quite a way behind.
• Ings is the best at take ons.
  
• Austin is the best in aerial duels.
• Kane and Ings nearly identical interceptions at 0.6 per 90 mins. Twice as many as Austin.
• Kane with most tackles won, Ings second. Austin less than half as many tackles as Kane.
• Austin best shooting accuracy
• Kane most goals scored. Ings less than half as many goals per 90 mins.

I know stats don't ever give you the full picture, but it seems to me that if we want a proper number 9 then we should go for Austin, whereas Ings would be a more versatile option. Ings makes me think of another Robbie Keane type player. Someone who could play in either the forward role, or a supporting one. If it were a choice between the two I'd rather him than Austin to complement Kane, as I think he's do it better. Kane has the ability to drop deeper so he would work well with Austin, but Kane's proven himself to be a top scorer and I wouldn't want to take that away from him. With Ings and Kane either can drop or be the main outlet, and that could give defenders a real hard time.

 

[fecka]

Where are you getting these stats from?

Whoscored has Bolasie as 6 assists and 4 goals and Lamela as 7 assists and 5 goals.

Besides it means fuck all. Bolasie isn't facing bus parkers each week like our attackers do. It takes a different skillset to create. Bolasie strengths lie in pace in power which is alright in a counter attacking team but we play on the front font, so require players with guile and intelligence to break down stubborn defences.

Transfermarkt has it at 12 assists as they also count penalties won as assists.

 

[fecka]

I know stats don't ever give you the full picture, but it seems to me that if we want a proper number 9 then we should go for Austin, whereas Ings would be a more versatile option. Ings makes me think of another Robbie Keane type player. Someone who could play in either the forward role, or a supporting one. If it were a choice between the two I'd rather him than Austin to complement Kane, as I think he's do it better. Kane has the ability to drop deeper so he would work well with Austin, but Kane's proven himself to be a top scorer and I wouldn't want to take that away from him. With Ings and Kane either can drop or be the main outlet, and that could give defenders a real hard time.

In my world we already have a proper, modern number 9 in Kane and what we should be looking for is the versatile, quick attacker than can open up defences with well timed runs and dribbles. The one closest at hand is Ings while the dream signing would be Lacazette. It's about balancing the side and not having too much of the same kind of players. If we're looking for a big, towering forward Benteke would be a way better shout than Austin who's just a bigger, english version of Soldado.

 

[Lilbaz]

In my world we already have a proper, modern number 9 in Kane and what we should be looking for is the versatile, quick attacker than can open up defences with well timed runs and dribbles. The one closest at hand is Ings while the dream signing would be Lacazette. It's about balancing the side and not having too much of the same kind of players. If we're looking for a big, towering forward Benteke would be a way better shout than Austin who's just a bigger, english version of Soldado.

If Soldado could score goals in the premier league like Austin we wouldn't be looking for a replacement.

 

[Sweech]

In my world we already have a proper, modern number 9 in Kane and what we should be looking for is the versatile, quick attacker than can open up defences with well timed runs and dribbles. The one closest at hand is Ings while the dream signing would be Lacazette. It's about balancing the side and not having too much of the same kind of players. If we're looking for a big, towering forward Benteke would be a way better shout than Austin who's just a bigger, english version of Soldado.

I agree we need a pacey option and Ings fills that. I also think we need a big target man type as well though.

 

[fecka]

I agree we need a pacey option and Ings fills that. I also think we need a big target man type as well though.

Why? We have Kane as a pretty big target already. I wouldn't say no to battering rams like Benteke or Bony but they are out of our price range at the moment. We'd have to gamble on a young unproven striker as a third option as we don't have the funds to spend big on a second or third choice like Chelsea or Man U.

 

[fecka]

If Soldado could score goals in the premier league like Austin we wouldn't be looking for a replacement.

I dare say that if Soldado was more physically suited to the prem he would score a lot more. Anyway, Austin contributes very little to the game except staying up top and scrapping for balls. Something that Kane already does very well while he also presses and works harder than almost anyone else in the team.

 

[FreddieYid]

Austin 18 goals for a just as bad club with much more impressive finishes. Strong player, grafts just as hard eg clearing sliding tackle off the line vs spurs. Ings will make no difference to our top 4 challenge

I appreciate that Austin has scored a fair amount of goals given the team he's played for and yes scoring is the hardest thing to do in the game, but he offers absolutely nothing else to the team or their play. Ings, even though he's younger has an intelligence that Austin doesn't and his work rate is far superior, not to mention fantastic movement.