Dele Alli - Player watch

[HildoSpur]

If England don't start with Alli in Russia then it will be a joke. You already have a pretty average squad so to leave out one of the very few top class talents you actually have would be suicidal.

 

[WiganSpur]

If England don't start with Alli in Russia then it will be a joke. You already have a pretty average squad so to leave out one of the very few top class talents you actually have would be suicidal.

This is one of the reasons why I don't understand the back 5 formation. 4-3-3 is the formation that gets all our best players in the same side.

With 3-5-2 Southgate has created a Lingard or Alli problem that isn't really necessary.

Why not just play:

Keeper
KW/KT Dier Stones Rose
Henderson
Dele----Lallana
Lingard---------Sterling
Kane

​

It gets all of our best players into the team and is reasonably well balanced too.

Although i'm not a massive fan of Dier in midfield you could also give yourself greater flexibility by playing Dier at the base and have him drop back into defence occasionally when both wing backs bomb forward.

 

[garryparkerschest]

With Winks, Wilshere and Barkley out of form and with the OX showing his limitations, I would play Alli in the deep CM role alongside Dier.

I like to see how he would do there, as he has done it before earlier on in his career.

It's a big ask, and defensively he may be a bit rusty but if we don't try you'll never know.

That way you still have his inventiveness and doesn't comprimise the pace in our attack.

 

[mpickard2087]

I don't see what there is to be surprised about really. He's done nothing in an England shirt really, his debut goal aside, and I think maybe an away game in Germany, he's more often than not been quiet and not even getting his output of goals. Pretty much all of the other attacking options have been chopped and changed if they aren't showing form (eg. Sterling), so he should be expected to battle for his place too. He hasn't done enough thus far to secure it.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Funny that Southgate is being critical when Alli has actually had his best season for us imo.

He was far more effective last season with key goals against top 6 teams. Not repeated that this year. His ball retention has also not been great this year and he has tended to take far too many touches when we break.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

Funny that Southgate is being critical when Alli has actually had his best season for us imo.

Yeah, I think there’s been a lot of talk about his goal tally reducing, and he was just plain awful for the first three or four months of the season, but since then, although not as productive this season, he’s actually buckled down and is working a lot harder generally for the team.

I think he’s always had a bit of the petulant spoilt child about him though, Poch has had to wrestle with it too.

 

[Shadydan]

This is one of the reasons why I don't understand the back 5 formation. 4-3-3 is the formation that gets all our best players in the same side.

With 3-5-2 Southgate has created a Lingard or Alli problem that isn't really necessary.

Why not just play:

Keeper
KW/KT Dier Stones Rose
Henderson
Dele----Lallana
Lingard---------Sterling
Kane

​

It gets all of our best players into the team and is reasonably well balanced too.

Although i'm not a massive fan of Dier in midfield you could also give yourself greater flexibility by playing Dier at the base and have him drop back into defence occasionally when both wing backs bomb forward.

We need to play 3 at the back because the defence is shit, with Walker in there he covers for the lack of pace of Maguire/Stones, there's definitely some logic in it.

I would not be trusting Dier alongside Stones in a back four.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

What a load of old cobblers.

All of the stuff in the media is about 4 months too late. He’s doing well now and I’m looking forward to him having a stormer v Chelsea.

 

[Guntz]

England players should be picked on form not merit, just look what happened with our 'golden generation.'

Alli does need to step up his performances, no-one has a divine right to start for their country.

But I'm confident he'll go on a run banging them in from now until the end of the season.

 

[LukaMotion]

He really should be starting in Russia IMO. We don't have anyone else with the same skill set that he has and the same ability to unlock defences. Lingard has done well enough in the latest round of games, enough to be in contention for a place on the plane, but that doesn't put him ahead of Dele in the starting XI for me.

IMO our best XI right now is:

Pickford
Walker - Stones - Maguire - Young
Dier
Alli - Lallana
Sterling - Rashford
Kane​

 

[WiganSpur]

England players should be picked on form not merit, just look what happened with our 'golden generation.'

Alli does need to step up his performances, no-one has a divine right to start for their country.

But I'm confident he'll go on a run banging them in from now until the end of the season.

Everyone keeps mentioning that England have no Eriksen, a type of player so crucial to any team. Lallana aside, Dele is our best option in that regard. Both of them have to start. At the very least one of them.

Lingard and AOC are good players now but they can't control or dictate a game or find telling through passes.

As I said, personally i'd get both of Lingard and Sterling in and sacrifice one of the back three, especially for easier games.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

This is one of the reasons why I don't understand the back 5 formation. 4-3-3 is the formation that gets all our best players in the same side.

With 3-5-2 Southgate has created a Lingard or Alli problem that isn't really necessary.

Why not just play:

Keeper
KW/KT Dier Stones Rose
Henderson
Dele----Lallana
Lingard---------Sterling
Kane

​

It gets all of our best players into the team and is reasonably well balanced too.

Although i'm not a massive fan of Dier in midfield you could also give yourself greater flexibility by playing Dier at the base and have him drop back into defence occasionally when both wing backs bomb forward.

That puts a huge amount of pressure on Henderson, especially when he is not an out-and-out defensive midfielder.

 

[WiganSpur]

That puts a huge amount of pressure on Henderson, especially when he is not an out-and-out defensive midfielder.

I think he can be a good link to pick up the ball from the defence and put those forward players into play.

He's not the completely ideal choice but I certainly think he's got the discipline to do a job there. A small price to pay for getting all of our most dangerous players on the pitch in a balanced formation.

If you wanted to you could even drop Henderson, play Dier in there and bring in Maguire at CB. However Dier has a lot of deficiencies in possession imo. I'd rather have a natural midfielder there personally.

 

[Sp3akerboxxx]

I think he can be a good link to pick up the ball from the defence and put those forward players into play.

He's not the completely ideal choice but I certainly think he's got the discipline to do a job there. A small price to pay for getting all of our most dangerous players on the pitch in a balanced formation.

If you wanted to you could even drop Henderson, play Dier in there and bring in Maguire at CB. However Dier has a lot of deficiencies in possession imo. I'd rather have a natural midfielder there personally.

Henderson is at his best when he plays alongside someone like Dier. I'd rather the manager tries to play a system that works rather than just shoehorning in all of our best players into a formation that leaves us incredibly vulnerable defensively.

 

[Gilzeanking]

I'm just clocking this Southgate Dele comment thing .

I reckon it will motivate him to shine extra brightly now for us and shove that remark down Southgate's throat . Excellent !!

 

[WiganSpur]

Henderson is at his best when he plays alongside someone like Dier. I'd rather the manager tries to play a system that works rather than just shoehorning in all of our best players into a formation that leaves us incredibly vulnerable defensively.

Personally I think it's quite balanced with Henderson alongside two number 8s there. It's certainly not Gerrard/Lampard 442 levels of shoehorning players into unfamiliar roles.

I'm not going to be a big fan of us playing 5 at the back against the likes of Panama and Tunisia especially.

 

[The General]

I can’t read the article. Are there actually any quotes from Southgate or anyone else for that matter?

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Poch on Dele:


Advice to Dele Alli?

With Dele my relationship is very good, like all the players here in Tottenham. Of course always not advice, talk, try to help, push the player and I think my job is to help the player to achieve what they deserve or want and bring or give the message to perform, that is one of my jobs.

Response to what Gareth Southgate had to say about Alli?

I can not give an opinion about a context when I wasn't there. The national team have a context and here at Tottenham we have a context, I wasn't there so I don't know and I can only talk for myself what we are doing here, how he is in Tottenham and try to help him to achieve what he wants.

How is he fitness wise?

I don't know, I wasn't in the training sessions with the national team.

For us today he was very good, he was fresh, he was fit and I am happy with the way he showed his fitness and I think it's normal day's training with the rest of the group.

 

[Lilbaz]

So why didn't he send him back to the club ala Wilshere

Aren't they training at our training ground?

 

[king26]

That puts a huge amount of pressure on Henderson, especially when he is not an out-and-out defensive midfielder.

hes crap waste of a shirt