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[chrissivad]

Im prity sure it was this guy...

During the Switzerland Vs Turkey game Hankan Yakin scored the first goal, at half time Alan Shearer and Alan Hanson both laughed at Asik when he steped up to play Yakin offside just before the tap in.

But why? the guy was right, and it was offside. The goals shouldn't have counted.

The offside rule is that there has to be 2 players between you and the goal, not one. Its just that usaly one is the keeper so everyone just plays it as one.

But Demirel had slid out and there was only one player back on the line.

Yakin's left foot was offside when the ball was crossed, they showed this on MotD with the line across the back line.


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[Defsta]

Im prity sure it was this guy...

During the Switzerland Vs Turkey game Hankan Yakin scored the first goal, at half time Alan Shearer and Alan Hanson both laughed at Asik when he steped up to play Yakin offside just before the tap in.

But why? the guy was right, and it was offside. The goals shouldn't have counted.

The offside rule is that there has to be 2 players between you and the goal, not one. Its just that usaly one is the keeper so everyone just plays it as one.

But Demirel had slid out and there was only one player back on the line.

Yakin's left foot was offside when the ball was crossed, they showed this on MotD with the line across the back line.


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No it isn't... It's offside when whole body of attacking player is over the line of last defending field player. If only a foot is over that, then it isn't offside. It's just like rule that if player who's offside but isn't active player (touch the ball) then it isn't offside.

 

[chrissivad]

No it isn't... It's offside when whole body of attacking player is over the line of last defending field player. If only a foot is over that, then it isn't offside. It's just like rule that if player who's offside but isn't active player (touch the ball) then it isn't offside.

please show me that law

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/FIFALawsOfTheGame/Postings/2002/05/12115.htm

on there it doesn't state that the whole body of the attacker, just they they are nearer to the goal line, and it was clear that his foot was.

 

[SlickMongoose]

please show me that law

http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/RulesAndRegulations/FIFALawsOfTheGame/Postings/2002/05/12115.htm

on there it doesn't state that the whole body of the attacker, just they they are nearer to the goal line, and it was clear that his foot was.

The rule is usually interpreted to mean that the player's torso has to be closer to the goal line, rather than any part of their body.

 

[Bobishism]

I thought it was any part of the body that could play the ball.

 

[chrissivad]

The rule is usually interpreted to mean that the player's torso has to be closer to the goal line, rather than any part of their body.

i have seen offsides given for the same thing (foot infront)

and interpreted shouldn't even be there, thats why there are so many problems with the offside rule. You shouldn't need to inteperate a rule, it should be clear. You are ether onside or offside.

interfering in play is a nother stupid rule. If your on the pitch you are imo

I thought it was any part of the body that could play the ball.

same.

 

[nidge]

The offside rule is that there has to be 2 players between you and the goal, not one. Its just that usaly one is the keeper so everyone just plays it as one.

But Demirel had slid out and there was only one player back on the line.

I am pretty sure that the ball that played Yakin in for the goal didn't go forward so can't be given offside?

 

[Kyras]

I thought it was any part of the body that could play the ball.

I'm pretty sure that is the rule as well. It was last season in the prem.

 

[chrissivad]

I am pretty sure that the ball that played Yakin in for the goal didn't go forward so can't be given offside?

didn't even think of that, but i havn't found a rule saying the ball has to be played forward..


on the FIFA website

http://www.fifa.com/flash/lotg/football/en/flash/start.html

says any part of the body exsept arms and hands.

 

[Krafty]

I think it is true that if the ball goes back or to the side you cannot be offside.

 

[C0YS]

He isnt offside 'cause its a level ball

 

[CaptainCat]

I think you can still be offside if the ball is played backwards. I think it all depends on whether the receiving player is further forward than the passing player. Maybe that goal was offside, but only by a few inches.

 

[chrissivad]

I think you can still be offside if the ball is played backwards. I think it all depends on whether the receiving player is further forward than the passing player. Maybe that goal was offside, but only by a few inches.

This is what all the rules say, i haven't found one part of the offside law (law 11) that states the you can only be offside if the ball is played forward.

 

[Phantom]

I thought it was any part of the body that could play the ball.

100% correct any part of the body which can legally be used to play the ball.

 

[miles_64]

The pass wasn't forward - not offside. If it had gone forward then it could be called into question

 

[chrissivad]

The pass wasn't forward - not offside. If it had gone forward then it could be called into question

but where in the rules does it say this?

i have gone through the rules and it doesn't say it has to be a pass forward.

on the FIFA website

Offside Position
It is not an offence in itself to be in an offside position.

A player is in an offside position if:

he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent.

A player is not in an offside position if

he is in his own half of the field of play or
he is level with the second last opponent or
he is level with the last two opponents.

http://www.fifa.com/worldfootball/lawsofthegame.html

again, nothing about having to be a pass forward.

so to all the people that are saying that it wasn't offside because it wasn't passed forward, can you back it up?
:shrug:

 

[batigol]

Chris, I think the answer to your question is already in the portion that you highlighted.

"A player is in an offside position if:

he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent."

It is obvious from the above that there are two criterias to satisfy before a player is considered offside:
a) the player is ahead of the ball at the time when pass is made
b) the player is ahead of the 2nd last opponent when the ball is being played

The key point from the rule above is that offside should be made in consideration of the player's position relative to the ball and 2nd last opponent. It has nothing to do with whether the pass is forward of backwards because a player running from a position behind the ball can run onto the ball whether it is played forward ahead of him or backwards towards him.

I have not seen the video but if the player was ahead of both the ball and the 2nd last opponent when the pass was made then he is offside. Otherwise he isn't. That's my interpretation from the fifa rules provided.

 

[chrissivad]

Chris, I think the answer to your question is already in the portion that you highlighted.

"A player is in an offside position if:

he is nearer to his opponents’ goal line than both the ball and the second last opponent."

It is obvious from the above that there are two criterias to satisfy before a player is considered offside:
a) the player is ahead of the ball at the time when pass is made
b) the player is ahead of the 2nd last opponent when the ball is being played

The key point from the rule above is that offside should be made in consideration of the player's position relative to the ball and 2nd last opponent. It has nothing to do with whether the pass is forward of backwards because a player running from a position behind the ball can run onto the ball whether it is played forward ahead of him or backwards towards him.

I have not seen the video but if the player was ahead of both the ball and the 2nd last opponent when the pass was made then he is offside. Otherwise he isn't. That's my interpretation from the fifa rules provided.

cheers, it was confusing the hell out of me. I have always played to that rule, just after reading the law got realy confused :up: