Match Threads Everton vs Spurs - Match Thread - Day 32

[Archibald&Crooks]

@Archibald&Crooks you think Bale is worth 600k a week? Do you think it will be financially prudent for us to sign him permanently?

It's not something I care that much about but as far as i'm aware, we're only paying roughly a third of that and i'd imagine it would stay the same if we were to extend that deal. Which we should and without hesitation if the next manager wants him and is going to actually use him properly.

It's something he has no control over. Like the returning to Madrid thing, he has no control over that, he's not looking past that, which as we all ought to know, reeks of the kind of neutral and non committal soundbite footballers make all the time. What he says, what he thinks and what he wants are all probably hugely different things.

 

[worcestersauce]

Surely as Gareth Bale is a Real Madrid player on a one year loan he would, at this point, be planning to go back to Madrid.
An extension of the loan for another year is not exclusively his decision so he obviously can't say he's planning to stay at Spurs and there's no deal to go anywhere else so he can't say I'm planning to go somewhere else. Returning to Madrid is the default option, I do think people want to read too much into every passing word a footballer says.

 

[parj]

Jose : Similar teams - a good game where both teams tried to win - hard to keep the ball when they pressed - Pierre and Moussa gave us the possibility to compete and we were solid in midfield

What game did he watch?

 

[sebo_sek]

Sky are arseholes to a man. A large part of the negativity surrounding the club comes from their coverage and our fans buying into it.

No the negativity comes from the shit on the field, no passion, no dignity and accepting 2nd best. Actually scratch that. Europa League is second best, we're third best ATM.

 

[Super Pav]

He hasn't said he wants to go back to Madrid. His loan spell ends so he will have to go back to Madrid. We have the option to extend his loan if we don't that is what will happen. Please keep up, we all know the situation with Bale (except a minor few). Ndombele, Sissoko and Aurier start ahead of Bale is ridiculous.

You can add everyone bar Kane to that list at the moment.

 

[shelfmonkey]

True.

Amazing anyone wants rid of Mourinho before we get rid of the Sissokos and Diers though. But I suppose some people just hate Mourinho more than they like Tottenham

Jesus dude! Are you in love with Mourinho?!! The man was washed up before he joined us and his time with us has hammered home that truth! Exactly what is it that you see in his management/tactics/playing style/philosophy that makes you defend him so strongly?!! We all know that some of the players are shite and need to go, others need a different type of manager to excel, but he HAS to be the first out, the rest of the dross can follow after!

 

[Davo99]

Jesus dude! Are you in love with Mourinho?!! The man was washed up before he joined us and his time with us has hammered home that truth! Exactly what is it that you see in his management/tactics/playing style/philosophy that makes you defend him so strongly?!! We all know that some of the players are shite and need to go, others need a different type of manager to excel, but he HAS to be the first out, the rest of the dross can follow after!

I disagree. I think the main point of focus should be on getting rid of all the shit players that bloat the squad. What’s the point in getting a new manager and give him the same pile of shite to work with?

What’s the point of getting in a new manager in at all if you aren’t going to give him the time to build a team?

 

[shelfmonkey]

I disagree. I think the main point of focus should be on getting rid of all the shit players that bloat the squad. What’s the point in getting a new manager and give him the same pile of shite to work with?

What’s the point of getting in a new manager in at all if you aren’t going to give him the time to build a team?

Ok, that's your opinion. Let me ask you how you felt about the Poch sacking and how that came about! I ask because the opposite scenario happened, Levy didn't back Poch at a critical time and here we are. You are saying Levy should back Mourinho, but he never backed Poch yet Poch got us to the brink of success with exciting attractive football. What do you see when you watch Jose's Spurs?!!

 

[Stamford]

Jesus dude! Are you in love with Mourinho?!! The man was washed up before he joined us and his time with us has hammered home that truth! Exactly what is it that you see in his management/tactics/playing style/philosophy that makes you defend him so strongly?!! We all know that some of the players are shite and need to go, others need a different type of manager to excel, but he HAS to be the first out, the rest of the dross can follow after!

The dross should have gone before he even set foot in the place. Those players have to go ASAP along with him. This isn't a mourinho love in but when the next guy comes in he can't achieve anything with this same group

 

[shelfmonkey]

The dross should have gone before he even set foot in the place. Those players have to go ASAP along with him. This isn't a mourinho love in but when the next guy comes in he can't achieve anything with this same group

I agree mate, my point is to question why this fella supports Mourinho but doesn't question Levy.

 

[shelfboy68]

Two points out of nine with seven goals conceded how I enjoy my football team these days a car crash of a club.

 

[sebo_sek]

I disagree. I think the main point of focus should be on getting rid of all the shit players that bloat the squad. What’s the point in getting a new manager and give him the same pile of shite to work with?

What’s the point of getting in a new manager in at all if you aren’t going to give him the time to build a team?

I have defended JM for months but this is just non sense. Jol and 'Arry managed to change average squads into well playing OFFENSIVE squads. The impact was immediate. Then neither was really supported in the transfer market unlike JM. And still the team have deteriorated - after last night it's 20 points lost from winning positions. TWENTY!

 

[Davo99]

I have defended JM for months but this is just non sense. Jol and 'Arry managed to change average squads into well playing OFFENSIVE squads. The impact was immediate. Then neither was really supported in the transfer market unlike JM. And still the team have deteriorated - after last night it's 20 points lost from winning positions. TWENTY!

The part in bold is simply not true and the rest isn’t relevant to what I even said?

 

[Teddy Klinsmann]

First time in a long time that a match meant nothing to me and probably to most other fans. Had we lost 3 nil or won 5-1, I’d have felt exactly the same. For me that is when I know time is up for this manager and many of these players. Did anyone really care what happened last night?

The full cycle is now complete and a refresh is needed from top to bottom of this club. You can see we’re rudderless and have no idea as a club where we are going.

Sad as it is to say, I don’t think HK was shaking his head as he came off because of his injury, it was a shake of the head which said “this is It for me”. We’ve broken the best player of our generation with performances of a championship side in the last 3-4 months. Everyone at the club is to blame, from coaches, to players, to the board.

 

[Davo99]

I agree mate, my point is to question why this fella supports Mourinho but doesn't question Levy.

Doesn’t question Levy? Are you sure?

 

[Davo99]

Ok, that's your opinion. Let me ask you how you felt above the Poch sacking and how that came about! I ask because the opposite scenario happened, Levy didn't back Poch at a critical time and here we are. You are saying Levy should back Mourinho, but he never backed Poch yet Poch got us to the brink of success with exciting attractive football. What do you see when you watch Jose's Spurs?!!

I’m not angry or disappointed with Mourinho as much as I’m angry and disappointed with the players.

If a normal person goes to work with a bad attitude, thinking the boss is a prick and puts in next to no effort, I think it should be them who gets the sack, not the boss.

 

[Davo99]

I agree mate, my point is to question why this fella supports Mourinho but doesn't question Levy.

You agree with him? So what are you arguing here then?

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

First time in a long time that a match meant nothing to me and probably to most other fans. Had we lost 3 nil or won 5-1, I’d have felt exactly the same. For me that is when I know time is up for this manager and many of these players. Did anyone really care what happened last night?

The full cycle is now complete and a refresh is needed from top to bottom of this club. You can see we’re rudderless and have no idea as a club where we are going.

Sad as it is to say, I don’t think HK was shaking his head as he came off because of his injury, it was a shake of the head which said “this is It for me”. We’ve broken the best player of our generation with performances of a championship side in the last 3-4 months. Everyone at the club is to blame, from coaches, to players, to the board.

It’s sadly, predictably, getting worse and worse for us. He should have been fired long ago, at least we could have hit the reset button and given assurances to key players that we looked like we knew what we were doing. This has been appallingly handled by Levy, all for the sake of thinking keeping Mourinho gives us a better chance of winning a tin pot cup, which of itself has little value unless it ushers in the dawn of a more successful era (which it blatantly isn’t) or solidifies, as we see with City, a team peaking. It’s a joke of monstrously dark proportions that Levy has prioritised an outside chance of winning the weakest domestic trophy at the expense of squad well-being. There is absolutely nothing of value maintaining the status quo of Mourinho clusterfucking the squad, yet a supposedly well educated, intelligent strategist like Levy cannot see this. It’s like The Emperor’s New Clothes incarnate- no one who matters is telling Levy the truth

 

[Matthew]

A draw away at Everton isn’t a bad result. Obviously, the result isn’t enough for Champions League but that’s because of previous performances, not this one.

im assuming you didnt actually watch the performance? can be the only reasonable explanation, without 2 everton mistakes and harry being harry, we lose that with a whimper.

 

[Matthew]

wouldnt surprise me if mourinho is playing mind games. bet him and harry planned it pre game to come off injured. Prob was never going to risk him against southampton and this way it looks more of a genuine reason to leave him out and keeps city guessing. Maybe i am talking rubbish but its probably the only tactic i could see mourinho being capable of making.