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Dougal

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Because I hate Spurs.
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Don't let him win dude!
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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Let it sink in, give it a couple of months and people will start to feel a sense of pride.
 

RuskyM

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I can't deal with this attempt at revisionism or silver lining thinking.

We embarrassed ourselves. We made ourselves a laughing stock. There's literally no good in what happened yesterday, and it's how our season will end up being defined. I don't give a fuck if we'd have accepted third at the start of the season, we shouldn't have finished third.

And this "Arsenal fans only have this to celebrate" thing fucks me off too. Yeah, they do only have this to celebrate. Because they've proven that even when they're not great, we're still worse. They have every right to brag and mock.
 

Dougal

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I can't deal with this attempt at revisionism or silver lining thinking.

We embarrassed ourselves. We made ourselves a laughing stock. There's literally no good in what happened yesterday, and it's how our season will end up being defined. I don't give a fuck if we'd have accepted third at the start of the season, we shouldn't have finished third.

And this "Arsenal fans only have this to celebrate" thing fucks me off too. Yeah, they do only have this to celebrate. Because they've proven that even when they're not great, we're still worse. They have every right to brag and mock.
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Danfunkel

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Yeah it was a shit end to a brilliant season. And yeah they once again came above us. But it doesn't matter. It won't be remembered in years to come. Won't even be remembered next season.

This season has shown us a glimpse of what Tottenham can do, and what the future holds. Good young manager, and a great set of players on the pitch - mostly all eager to win stuff. A new stadium, and a great academy and training centre that is starting to pay off. Oh, and a return to the elite of European football.... something some of us have somehow forgotten.

3rd at the beginning of this season would've been a miracle.

Its obvious we need to keep improving, and we will this summer. We've also pretty much conquered our fitness, now we need learn how to keep their minds fit and add some players who can balance the squad and add quality that we lacked this season.

We all hurt now, but that'll go. Its already tonights fish and chip paper, lads.

COYS.
 

Dougal

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Had a Gooner telling me a few weeks ago after Leicester won the league nobody ever remembers the team who came second.

In your face Gooner.
 

thinktank

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Sep 28, 2004
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Let it sink in, give it a couple of months and people will start to feel a sense of pride.
All I have now is a major concern that we might be in a position to win the league and be ahead of arsenal (top )with a few games left to go and have this same shit happen because we have a mental block about finishing above them (a block we should have, beyond a shadow of a fuuuuuuking doubt, obliterated this season).

Difference being it would be the title we spunked, not second place.

Poch greatly underestimated the importance of this tbh. It's a humongous mental hurdle that needed to be addressed and overcome as part of our general progression.

It would have really freed and loosened us up, mentally, for next season.

No longer in the backs of our minds.

No more a monkey on our backs.
 

Shadydan

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All I have now is a major concern that we might be in a position to win the league and be ahead of arsenal (top )with a few games left to go and have this same shit happen because we have a mental block about finishing above them (a block we should have, beyond a shadow of a fuuuuuuking doubt, obliterated this season).

Difference being it would be the title we spunked, not second place.

Poch greatly underestimated the importance of this tbh. It's a humongous mental hurdle that needed to be addressed and overcome as part of our general progression.

It would have really freed and loosened us up, mentally, for next season.

No longer in the backs of our minds.

No more a monkey on our backs.

Don't think he underestimated it, he's been going on about improving the mentality of the club since he got here 2 years ago. We've improved in that sense no doubt but it's still a work in progress clearly.

What I can take away from this is that we were missing our two most influential players and we completely capitulated, that's fine by me because at least we have a reason as to why we've done a complete 180, it's not as if we are searching for answers and we know what we need to do to fix that next time.

We got over a lot of hurdles this season, we beat City twice and beat Utd at home for the first time in donkey's years. We upped our defense which went from one of the worst to the best, we actually made great strides compared to 2014/15. For me going into next season our tweaks that need to be made are minor compared to last summer. We now have a starting eleven as good as anyone in the league, we couldn't say that this time last year.

I know after the last month or so it's not easy but I think people who are down need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture, the manager has always said this project is going to be a three year plan and we are well ahead of schedule, there is clear progression to be had in this team and I'm in no doubt that we have the right man to lead us.
 

faymantaray

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I'm not proud. The only reason this season was so good for a while was just to make the collapse all the more spectacular.
 

thinktank

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Don't think he underestimated it, he's been going on about improving the mentality of the club since he got here 2 years ago. We've improved in that sense no doubt but it's still a work in progress clearly.

What I can take away from this is that we were missing our two most influential players and we completely capitulated, that's fine by me because at least we have a reason as to why we've done a complete 180, it's not as if we are searching for answers and we know what we need to do to fix that next time.

We got over a lot of hurdles this season, we beat City twice and beat Utd at home for the first time in donkey's years. We upped our defense which went from one of the worst to the best, we actually made great strides compared to 2014/15. For me going into next season our tweaks that need to be made are minuscule compared to last summer. We now have a starting eleven as good as anyone in the league, we couldn't say that this time last year.

I know after the last month or so it's not easy but I think people who are down need to take a step back and look at the bigger picture, the manager always going to be a three year plan and we are ahead of schedule, there is clear progression to be had in this team and I'm in no doubt that we have the right man to lead us.

These are two separate things.

He shouldn't have gone on about how unimportant it is to finish above the scum. That's my point.

I understand what he was trying to do but it was clearly the wrong message to the players. They willingly absorbed it.

I would rather he was just neutral about it and just went on about winning every game etc. instead of overtly pooh-poohing it (@Archibald&Crooks let me guess...you strongly agree with that, Mr Smelly Bum).
 

Archibald&Crooks

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These are two separate things.

He shouldn't have gone on about how unimportant it is to finish above the scum. That's my point.

I understand what he was trying to do but it was clearly the wrong message to the players. They willingly absorbed it.

I would rather he was just neutral about it and just went on about winning every game etc. instead of overtly poo-poohing it (@Archibald&Crooks let me guess...you strongly agree with that, Mr Smelly Bum).
I still strongly disagree :p
 

jolsnogross

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It was so unnecessary. "Spurs will always let you down". "Spurs come 3rd in a two-horse race". These were not the lines we needed at the end of a largely successful year. And if Villa were the most spineless team of the season, closely followed by Newcastle, but Newcastle did the double over us.....what does it say about us? It just looks awful. It was awful.

Poch did underestimate the Arsenal 'issue' and now our 'winning mentality' is open to question again. It had been turned into something real in terms of how we were written about, but it's back to the default now. Just such an unnecessary collapse compounded by an utterly inept display yesterday.

People need to keep their heads. Another slow start next season and the boos will be back and pressure built because the sore memory of yesterday is going to linger until we get back to winning ways.
 

Shadydan

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These are two separate things.

He shouldn't have gone on about how unimportant it is to finish above the scum. That's my point.

I understand what he was trying to do but it was clearly the wrong message to the players. They willingly absorbed it.

I would rather he was just neutral about it and just went on about winning every game etc. instead of overtly poo-poohing it (@Archibald&Crooks let me guess...you strongly agree with that, Mr Smelly Bum).

Come on you know not to take Poch's comments as face value, who knows what he said to them behind closed doors. Poch has said so much contradictory comments in the media before so why would this be different. I personally to that as a message to the fans, not the players.
 
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