What's new

It WAS about tactics today !

Wheeler Dealer

Well-Known Member
Jul 29, 2011
6,933
12,443
Apart from lennon, we had no one who could get behind their defence. On the odd occasion Lennon did, we looked dangerous and he was the creator of our chalked off goal.
 

Spurs_Q8

Well-Known Member
May 21, 2005
3,161
139
I'm neg repping you just for that comment.

this doesn't mean anything to me, within the first 12 months for Redknapp here, i suggested Bale deserves first team football, a lot of people here argued and said 'oh, we can't win a game with him unless fielding him in last five mins like what we did vs Burnley' .. then he took you to CL place in the following months..

so i really don't care about what people say, what i'm sure about you need to benfite from your creative and pace players, for me ? i trust Giovani more than VDV or Saha .. not saying he should start each game, but he is useful as well .. but Redknapp give the likes of Rose or even Pav in 4-4-2 instead ..
 

wooderz

James and SC Striker
May 18, 2006
8,766
4,507
Personally Harry could have brought Defoe on earlier, but then that probably wouldn't have changed things. Modric just let them walk past him for their second and the 3rd was a wonder goal....although we could have closed Young down a lot sooner.

It just shows we need to do some serious shopping
 

Spurs_Bear

Well-Known Member
Jan 7, 2009
17,094
22,286
this doesn't mean anything to me, within the first 12 months for Redknapp here, i suggested Bale deserves first team football, a lot of people here argued and said 'oh, we can't win a game with him unless fielding him in last five mins like what we did vs Burnley' .. then he took you to CL place in the following months..

so i really don't care about what people say, what i'm sure about you need to benfite from your creative and pace players, for me ? i trust Giovani more than VDV or Saha .. not saying he should start each game, but he is useful as well .. but Redknapp give the likes of Rose or even Pav in 4-4-2 instead ..

You trust.....Giovani......more than VdV.....or Saha.......

You mad.

So mad it's painful.

Excrutiating.

Try watching the games rather than youtube clips of your favourite players.

Giovani.

Fuck my old boots.
 

ryantegan

Block 33 Season Ticket holder :)
Jun 28, 2009
6,014
17,841
I cant believe as part of the tactics Harry asked Kyle Walker to just watch Rooney and forget about the ball from a corner. He told Modric if Nani wants a quick throw in, just switch off and allow it, tactically speaking of course. And the way he said in the team talk "back away from Young if he wants to shoot" was just so tactically naive

Give me strength
 

striebs

Well-Known Member
Mar 18, 2004
4,504
667
....but the actual killer instinct is far stronger with the likes of Wooney and Young than Adebayor and Saha.

Our defence is set up such that it's awesome for an all out attacking style, but should anyone dare to attack us back, then we are in trouble. Harry did nothing wrong. We need to sign a world class striker and a world class centre back if we want to win the league while still maintaining this style.

Thats along the lines of what I'm thinking .

As much as we as fans love to see Kyle Walker and Bale play blinders with massive heart, they shouldn't have to go gung-ho like we require them to do .

In contrast look at Man Utd . Everything seems so composed . Their young players can mature in an atmosphere surrounded by winners who know what they are doing and can turn it on when it counts .

Defoe showed in a few minutes that players can have a crack .

We've established ourselves as genuine competitors for a CL place . We were never anything more than title outsiders if both Manchester teams had a meltdown .

Modric has been cruising since Christmas and no longer shows that ruthless desire to win at any cost . We should be thankful for the important year he has given us but it would be a mistake to try and keep him in the Summer .

Manchester United have 3 strikers who are better than any of ours . We sell them our best players and buy their and Man City's rejects .

I am just enjoying the ride and have realistic expectations .

There would be no point bashing your head against a brickwall because we don't have the finances to compete with Man Utd , Man City , Real Madrid etc .
 

JUSTINSIGNAL

Well-Known Member
Jul 10, 2008
16,015
48,655
Alot of people on here are saying that Modric should of played in CM. Part of the reason we dominated the midfield was because we had 2 strong combatitive midfielders. Playing Modric centrally possibly would have handed Man Utd the initiative, like it did when we tried the same trick against the Arse last sunday.

Some of you fickle lot need to realise that it was down to individual errors. the tactics were spot on.
 

Spurs_Q8

Well-Known Member
May 21, 2005
3,161
139
You trust.....Giovani......more than VdV.....or Saha.......

You mad.

So mad it's painful.

Excrutiating.

Try watching the games rather than youtube clips of your favourite players.

Giovani.

Fuck my old boots.

sadly you are a bit new here in SC, so you don't know about Bale stroy that much, but i advise you not to go to similar road for negative posters, who only base their opinion about things without give a look to circumstances ..

you can't judge just because he didn't make it, people doubted that Modric can play in CM when he came here, i said he can as i saw him in Euro 2008, only BAE sent off vs West Brom proved Redknapp was wrong ..

then i said Bale can be good as LB, he did good job from Jan. to March, until switched to LM due to CM injuries where Modric swriched from LM to CM permenantly..

also i rated Bentley as good squad player, and he played his role to secure CL in the 2nd half of the season.. and REMEMBER this, Bentley can do similar job to VDV if it wasn't his injuries and used as behind striker...

and remember, Giovani is good player who be very useful for our current team .. and if he didn't get his chance, he would do it for another team..

and remember, Bale should play more of LB ( specially when we are behind ) ..

remark my words ..

I cant believe as part of the tactics Harry asked Kyle Walker to just watch Rooney and forget about the ball from a corner. He told Modric if Nani wants a quick throw in, just switch off and allow it, tactically speaking of course. And the way he said in the team talk "back away from Young if he wants to shoot" was just so tactically naive

Give me strength

but you must believe that when you lose 2-0 lead and 2-5, and 0-1 or 0-2 and can't bring it back to 1-2, it's tactics problem ..

Redknapp is doing great things because he planted winning mentality to our team, they think they can win each game, that's good help, but he needs to support them in 2nd half when they things doesn't work ..

and it was that case last night, we conceded the 2nd goal in 59' but then the third at '68' .. then his subs came at '79 !!!
so he came late 20 mins to react from their second goal .. and ten mins from their THIRD goal, even thought his subs weren't the best, but refresh some tired players always good .. so we scored a goal & it was a hope .. wonder if he changed things earlier ..
 

Maske2g

SC Supporter
Feb 1, 2005
4,257
1,726
Some of the most ridiculous comments I've ever read.

We weren't playing Wigan or Wolves, we were playing Manchester Utd.

We bossed them for an entire half, and gave away a shit goal from a defensive lapse.

We came out strong second half and gave away another shit goal from a defensive lapse.

Lesson learned? You can't make them mistakes against the best teams. And that was the difference between us and the Champions.

Modric and Benny were the best two players on the pitch at 0-0 by a country mile, so to say Modric has been cruising is gash. He was also on another planet against Newcastle, and Liverpool first half. 36 passes out of 36 when we cou;dn't even get out our half is spellbinding.

GDS? I'd sooner have VD....
 

Maske2g

SC Supporter
Feb 1, 2005
4,257
1,726
sadly you are a bit new here in SC, so you don't know about Bale stroy that much, but i advise you not to go to similar road for negative posters, who only base their opinion about things without give a look to circumstances ..

you can't judge just because he didn't make it, people doubted that Modric can play in CM when he came here, i said he can as i saw him in Euro 2008, only BAE sent off vs West Brom proved Redknapp was wrong ..

then i said Bale can be good as LB, he did good job from Jan. to March, until switched to LM due to CM injuries where Modric swriched from LM to CM permenantly..

also i rated Bentley as good squad player, and he played his role to secure CL in the 2nd half of the season.. and REMEMBER this, Bentley can do similar job to VDV if it wasn't his injuries and used as behind striker...

and remember, Giovani is good player who be very useful for our current team .. and if he didn't get his chance, he would do it for another team..

and remember, Bale should play more of LB ( specially when we are behind ) ..

remark my words ..



but you must believe that when you lose 2-0 lead and 2-5, and 0-1 or 0-2 and can't bring it back to 1-2, it's tactics problem ..

Redknapp is doing great things because he planted winning mentality to our team, they think they can win each game, that's good help, but he needs to support them in 2nd half when they things doesn't work ..

and it was that case last night, we conceded the 2nd goal in 59' but then the third at '68' .. then his subs came at '79 !!!
so he came late 20 mins to react from their second goal .. and ten mins from their THIRD goal, even thought his subs weren't the best, but refresh some tired players always good .. so we scored a goal & it was a hope .. wonder if he changed things earlier ..


This is maybe the worst post I've ever read on here.
 

Spurs_Bear

Well-Known Member
Jan 7, 2009
17,094
22,286
sadly you are a bit new here in SC, so you don't know about Bale stroy that much, but i advise you not to go to similar road for negative posters, who only base their opinion about things without give a look to circumstances ..

you can't judge just because he didn't make it, people doubted that Modric can play in CM when he came here, i said he can as i saw him in Euro 2008, only BAE sent off vs West Brom proved Redknapp was wrong ..

then i said Bale can be good as LB, he did good job from Jan. to March, until switched to LM due to CM injuries where Modric swriched from LM to CM permenantly..

also i rated Bentley as good squad player, and he played his role to secure CL in the 2nd half of the season.. and REMEMBER this, Bentley can do similar job to VDV if it wasn't his injuries and used as behind striker...

and remember, Giovani is good player who be very useful for our current team .. and if he didn't get his chance, he would do it for another team..

and remember, Bale should play more of LB ( specially when we are behind ) ..

remark my words ..

I'm a big fan of the fact that we attract people from all over the world here.....

This is maybe the worst post I've ever read on here.

:lol: it's pretty funny though.

You know, GDS will be good one day for another team, he's shown that by going on loan.....

And Bentley can do a similar job as VdV.....if they are both working in Tesco.

Bless him.
 

Maske2g

SC Supporter
Feb 1, 2005
4,257
1,726

dooey123

Active Member
Jun 5, 2006
627
109
Agree it was individual errors that cost us rather than tactics. For the players we had available it was the best setup and it worked. Even though we had not created much I was far happier us keeping the ball controlled rather than long balling it up to two players who may win 1 out of 10 jumping headers.

The only change that was needed that felt obvious to me was to bring on Defoe at half time. I stopped watching the game after we went 3-0 down but when I heard we'd got a consolation goal I knew it would be Defoe. For all his faults he is or most natural striker, can take a powerful shot within the tightest of spaces, he's fast with a low centre of gravity and tends to play facing the oppo goal which gives him that first yard advantage over a defender. Man U's keeper needed to be tested more and Defoe would have done that.
 

striebs

Well-Known Member
Mar 18, 2004
4,504
667
Good read, interesting comment on the gap between the midfield and CB's, is Kings loss of mobility being targeted.

Tis a good read indeed .

Other clubs have big players , often past their peak , who step up and deliver great corners - Bellamy , Lampard . Ours are usually wasted .

Thought Livermore had the match of his career yesterday - played out of his skin .

Caulker is the only Spurs player I've seen who has shown any sign that in time , he might be a King replacement . Do we spend next season bedding him in or aim to buy a true King replacement ?

Pity VDV wasn't available , our only real "wildcard" able to pull something out of nowhere .

If we could temp Adam Johnson that would provide corner taking capability and ensure we have options out wide .

Not sure if we can get two strikers competitive with Rooney , Berbatov , Hernandez , Aguero , Ballotelli , Persie .
 

Wirral Spurs

Well-Known Member
Jun 9, 2009
958
1,386
This is the conclusion. Pretty much spot on.
Spurs controlled the match while United struggled to compete. However, Spurs failed to be clinical enough with their chances and they had costly defensive errors. In contrast, United took their chances well and they defended well in their own box. 'Arry's tactics were fine and the unavailability of Bale and Parker even allowed him to spring a surprise on his counterpart. Goals decide games though. Getting goals when not playing well in 'massive games' also decide title races. Not a tremendous performance, but it was a tremendous result. We're well-positioned for the run-in.
 

theShiznit

Well-Known Member
Jul 26, 2004
17,903
23,971
Still not sure about the King/Kaboul partnership...

last time we defended well as a team was Liverpool away with King/Dawson.

all very well saying that Kaboul is the better player than Dawson but being in a better pairing is much more important.
 

StartingPrice

Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip
Feb 13, 2004
32,568
10,280
You don't watch football. We lost because individual lapses in concentration in our back four.

This game wasn't about tactics, we bossed midfield and had a legit goal ruled out.

Amazing Kendall admits referee shafted us in game against United post admission confession profession scoop revelation admission Eek

We dominted the game but not enough threat in the box, we needed Niko or Gio so things needed change..

Playing Livermore and Sandro in the middle reduced our creativity form that quarter - but I would have paired Defoe with Adebayor, rather than playing either of these two from the start.
 
Top