ITK - Berbatov News

[eddiebailey]

Ithe fact that Berba has ben so coy about everything just reaffirms the notion all along that we were a stepping stone - that doesn't sit well with me, and he loses my respect as a result.

I do not think that is entirely fair. Berbs joined a club that had narrowly missed a Champions League slot; the following season we had great runs in all the cups and again finished fifth. If we had kicked on this season and qualified for the Champions League or won the UEFA cup, I doubt there would be all the speculation about Berbs leaving.

As it is it would be surprising if the uninspiring summer transfer window, the woeful start to the season, the shambolic change of manager and the exit from the UEFA cup, had not all made him wonder what he is doing here. I suspect by the time we won the League Cup and announced the signing of Modric his mind was already made up.

He wants to play with the best and win things that matter. When he joined Spurs we looked like we might be able to deliver that; you can hardly blame him if he no longer trusts us to do so.

 

[rez9000]

I do not think that is entirely fair. Berbs joined a club that had narrowly missed a Champions League slot; the following season we had great runs in all the cups and again finished fifth. If we had kicked on this season and qualified for the Champions League or won the UEFA cup, I doubt there would be all the speculation about Berbs leaving.

As it is it would be surprising if the uninspiring summer transfer window, the woeful start to the season, the shambolic change of manager and the exit from the UEFA cup, had not all made him wonder what he is doing here. I suspect by the time we won the League Cup and announced the signing of Modric his mind was already made up.

He wants to play with the best and win things that matter. When he joined Spurs we looked like we might be able to deliver that; you can hardly blame him if he no longer trusts us to do so.

His agent was talking up a move well before last season ended, Eddie. There was speculation about him from the end of the January transfer window.

If he leaves, I will have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever. In point of fact, in terms of how much I respect Spurs players, he comes in bottom right now. The rest of the Spurs squad, even with whatever weaknesses they have, at the very least treat the club with some measure of respect (possibly with the exception of Kaboul).

I question his respectability. His agent has dragged the club through the wringer and what's more has done it publicly. Why has Berbatov not said anything? At the very least, he should have told his agent to stop talking to the press, to stop embarassing the club, but he hasn't.

He's been a genius on the pitch, he helped us into fifth last season and helped us win the CC this, but his attitude on the pitch and unwillingness to shut his tosspot of an agent up has driven me to distraction.

I used to be a Berbagod person. He could do no wrong in my eyes. And I'm sure some of you remember that a few months ago I was urging you all to keep registering your desire for him to stay. But now my attitude is changing. I still want him to stay, but I'm becoming more willing to see him leave if all we're going to get from him and Dantchev is more and more press speculation.

People have been saying that whether he stays or goes, the club will still be here, and that the club is bigger than one player. If that's the case (which I think it is) he should not be allowed to muckrake.

Ultimately, it's a moot point anyway. He will be able to buy out his contract this year and so the club will have to sell him if he really wants to go. What angers me is the insistence that we show him respect when he's been so disrespectful of the club.

 

[SpurSince57]

According to the work experience dimbulbs who populate the Hate-Mail's sportsdesk, we are prepared to take a £10m hit on Berbatov in order to sell him abroad rather than to the Soccerballs. Real are now favourites, because they need a replacement for RvN, who's off to Milan.

Funny, thought Berba was off to Milan. And I'm sure the Soccerballs were reported to be after Huntelaar. Or Fabiano. Or both. And Eto'o's going to Inter, don't you know?

 

[eddiebailey]

If a top player plays for an average club there will be speculation about his leaving. To be honest I find it depressing that there are not more Spurs players linked with moves to Champions League clubs.

As for Dantchev, he may have upped the anti now, but it seemed to me that in early days the quotes were pretty innocuous and were spun by the press to make a story.

 

[kishman]

I saw Dimitar yesterday in Wetherspoons yesterday and we had a decent conversation and he told me he is happy at spurs and is staying.

Spoiler

Btw this was in my dream, but i think it should count anyways.

 

[SpurSince57]

the only thing about Perryman was being a one club man. He was boring as hell and I used to call him the Prince of the Square Pass. Both him and John Pratt had no imagination in the offensive part of the game, but I preferred Pratt more as at least he ran around like mad and didn't look as scour as Perryman.

Jesus Christ on a bicycle…

 

[stemark44]

If a top player plays for an average club there will be speculation about his leaving. To be honest I find it depressing that there are not more Spurs players linked with moves to Champions League clubs.

As for Dantchev, he may have upped the anti now, but it seemed to me that in early days the quotes were pretty innocuous and were spun by the press to make a story.

Thats why we need more than 1 top player - we need 3/4 - good players tend to stick around when there is a group of them!

 

[SelbYido]

According to the work experience dimbulbs who populate the Hate-Mail's sportsdesk, we are prepared to take a £10m hit on Berbatov in order to sell him abroad rather than to the Soccerballs. Real are now favourites, because they need a replacement for RvN, who's off to Milan.

Funny, thought Berba was off to Milan. And I'm sure the Soccerballs were reported to be after Huntelaar. Or Fabiano. Or both. And Eto'o's going to Inter, don't you know?

Assuming that's not bullshit (on the Daily Blackshirt's part, not yours, of course) then maybe a Granero swap-deal might be an option.

:shrug:

These swap deals hardly ever come off but...fuck it - its an idea.

 

[dynamoSpurs]

RvN to Milan? WHY????

So Berba is definately leaving?

Are we only ever gonna have 1 star at a time???

Kinda makes the Modric signing redundant in a way.

FUCKS SAKE!

 

[Locotoro]

Why? Scholes and Neville have never had one. They just hired solictors when they were discussing new contracts.

I have to confess that the majority of agents actually play no part in the contractual negotiation of players and clubs.

This is usually dealt with by solicitors/lawyers. Agents simply act as middle-men or a broker. A player will want to leave a club for whatever reason. The agent will go to various clubs and find out the levels of interest and report back to the player. Of course, they always play it up because they get their commission from the eventual deal.

They are pretty much like mortgage brokers (sorry) the client wants a deal and they find someone willing to offer it. But the actual deal itself is dealt with by someone else

 

[lily_lane]

I used to be a Berbagod person. He could do no wrong in my eyes. And I'm sure some of you remember that a few months ago I was urging you all to keep registering your desire for him to stay. But now my attitude is changing. I still want him to stay, but I'm becoming more willing to see him leave if all we're going to get from him and Dantchev is more and more press speculation.

Well you've reached the stage I came to over a month ago then.
The difference being I'm perfectly willing to applaud him and say Goodbye rather than feel the need to shout abuse.
And, I repeat, no, it's not about the money. He has about 3 years left at the top level, and he'd like to achieve something in that time. He stands a better chance of doing it with a club playing in the CL. With us, he can hope to qualify the season after next.
He's Bulgarian. Why should he feel the same attachment to the club as you? He's a professional footballer, with a limited timespan, and will do the best for his career now he's realised he's 27 and hasn't got endless years ahead of him.
Do I blame him for that or think he's being disrepectful? Well he certainly could've handled things alot better, that's for sure, but he's human, so yes, I do. He just needs better advice.

I think when foreign players come here they are genuinely surprised how *top 4* dominated everything is - both Berbatov and Torres have said this. Berbs commented in a recent interview he thought Spurs could break that up, but the fact is the club, with the signings we made last Summer, did nothing to advance the quality of the first team. All the players Comolli bought were *future* players. With better signings then, and CL QF, I'm sure Berba would've made the decision to stay, inspite of the money, cos let's face it, we don't pay top wages do we?

 

[lily_lane]

Funny, thought Berba was off to Milan. And I'm sure the Soccerballs were reported to be after Huntelaar. Or Fabiano. Or both. And Eto'o's going to Inter, don't you know?

Where's Drogba going?

 

[lily_lane]

I saw Dimitar yesterday in Wetherspoons yesterday and we had a decent conversation and he told me he is happy at spurs and is staying.

Spoiler

Btw this was in my dream, but i think it should count anyways.

But what wasn't a dream or a WUM post was the report on COYS last Saturday that he was seen, spoken to and photographed at WHL by punters on the Stadium Tour. I posted the pic in chat. He was there.

 

[lily_lane]

If he leaves, I will have absolutely no respect for him whatsoever. In point of fact, in terms of how much I respect Spurs players, he comes in bottom right now. The rest of the Spurs squad, even with whatever weaknesses they have, at the very least treat the club with some measure of respect (possibly with the exception of Kaboul).

Call me naive, but I still have respect for our most consistent and best player in the UEFA Cup over the past 2 seasons. After the CC when others looked like they couldn't be arsed to get themselves up for another trophy challenge, Berbatov did.

 

[lily_lane]

the only thing about Perryman was being a one club man. He was boring as hell and I used to call him the Prince of the Square Pass. Both him and John Pratt had no imagination in the offensive part of the game, but I preferred Pratt more as at least he ran around like mad and didn't look as scour as Perryman.

He also never ate his wife's Sunday Roast dinner. He skulked in the kitchen with a bowl of cornflakes. Weird bugger. Still a Spurs Leg though.

 

[rez9000]

Well you've reached the stage I came to over a month ago then.
The difference being I'm perfectly willing to applaud him and say Goodbye rather than feel the need to shout abuse.
And, I repeat, no, it's not about the money. He has about 3 years left at the top level, and he'd like to achieve something in that time. He stands a better chance of doing it with a club playing in the CL. With us, he can hope to qualify the season after next.
He's Bulgarian. Why should he feel the same attachment to the club as you? He's a professional footballer, with a limited timespan, and will do the best for his career now he's realised he's 27 and hasn't got endless years ahead of him.
Do I blame him for that or think he's being disrepectful? Well he certainly could've handled things alot better, that's for sure, but he's human, so yes, I do. He just needs better advice.

I think when foreign players come here they are genuinely surprised how *top 4* dominated everything is - both Berbatov and Torres have said this. Berbs commented in a recent interview he thought Spurs could break that up, but the fact is the club, with the signings we made last Summer, did nothing to advance the quality of the first team. All the players Comolli bought were *future* players. With better signings then, and CL QF, I'm sure Berba would've made the decision to stay, inspite of the money, cos let's face it, we don't pay top wages do we?

Call me naive, but I still have respect for our most consistent and best player in the UEFA Cup over the past 2 seasons. After the CC when others looked like they couldn't be arsed to get themselves up for another trophy challenge, Berbatov did.

I'm sorry mate, but I can't find it in myself to respect the kind of behaviour that he's participated in and sanctioned. It smacks too much of Campbell's departure, which many feel was engineered by another slimy agent, Sky Andrew. OK, maybe this time we'll get a fee for losing our best player, but regardless of that, I get angry when our club takes a pounding. That's why I was so vociferous in my criticism of the board during the Jol debacle - because I felt they were tarnishing the club, and I feel that Berbatov is doing the same thing here.

I don't like the notion of our club being a mere stepping stone. Intellectually, I can concede that Spurs are not as big as we used to be and that there are clubs to play for that can achieve more prestigious awards. But a stepping stone is designed to be trodden on, and I don't like Spurs being trodden on.

Plus he's played CL football already. And he had the opportunity to play for a CL club after Leverkusen. All he had to do was turn down Spurs and move to Man U. But he chose to come to Spurs and I expect him to honour the commitment he made to the club.

As I stated elsewhere, I'm more and more of the thinking that Dantchev advised Berbatov to turn down Man U, just so he could hike his value before engineering a move to a bigger club, and hence get a nice fat transfer fee commission. That isn't worthy of respect in my book. Imagine if Berbatov had arrived at WHL and said on the day he turned up that he was only at Spurs until a better club came along. We would have ripped him apart!

 

[bubble07]

according to NOTW only barca and the chavs can afford berba at 30m. We canule out chelsea so berbatov plus 10m for eto'o and ronaldinho. It also said that spurs were looking for sponsers to pay some of eto'o 100,000 a week wages

 

[Gilzeanking]

Well I say he didn't dump us in Jan so...he hasn't totally fucked us.

Trouble is that my gf who has been dragging me out every time Spurs're on in the pub for the last 3 years , is not happy .

I told her today was Berbs last game but said not to worry there'll be someone new along ....But she just sighed sadly and said ' But Berby is SO ice cool , theres noone like him , don't let him go'

Brought me right down again...she's right..for a while there we had the coolest player in the land

 

[Oscar22]

according to NOTW only barca and the chavs can afford berba at 30m. We canule out chelsea so berbatov plus 10m for eto'o and ronaldinho. It also said that spurs were looking for sponsers to pay some of eto'o 100,000 a week wages

Suddenly this kit deal with Puma makes sense...

 

[SpurSince57]

In the latest drivel:

Fergie says he needs another experienced striker. The Torygraph continues to destroy what little credibility it retains by interpreting this as a bid for Berba.

The Screws, however, reckons he wants Owen, and says Milan (AC, that is, not Mandaric) won't meet our £30m asking price. Chelsea and Barca will, says the Observer, although the Daily Diana claims the Russians have offered a take-it-or-leave-it £20m.

The Peephole says that Eto'o is the one Juande wants, and that we're seeking sponsorship from the Cameroon Tourist Board to help us out with his wages.

And for those who saw the Flying Lamp-post as an ideal replacement for Berbs, tough titty. He's buying out the rest of his contract and heading for Villareal.