Ex-Player Watch Jermain Defoe

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Absolutely – Jermain seems like he'd be a top top top youth coach. There are countless stories of the impact he's had directly on youth players, even our own Harry Kane.

I'd imagine he'd like a bit of a break after a long career. But if he decides he's interested in coaching, I hope we'll give him an opportunity here.

He can teach the youth how to stay onside

 

[Cavehillspur]

Proper legend, love Defoe.

Had his name put on my sons first Spurs shirt, hes 20 now....

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Proper legend, love Defoe.

Had his name put on my sons first Spurs shirt, hes 20 now....

Does it still fit him?

 

[Montalbano]

There we go.

 

[aliyid]

Love Defoe but he’d be a terrible coach

Used to frustrate the hell out of me:

• incredible pace, but always being caught offside.
• One-on-one, he always opted for power straight at the GK over placement.
• Too greedy, never laying off to Keane/Berba/Crouchy when they were in better positions (laugh when people say every striker has to be selfish)
• Scorer of great goals rather than a great goal scorer

 

[topper]

There we go.

Journalist probably read Edmonton on COYS who said a few hours back:

'Was coming to Spurs to coach the kids before Sunderland made him a great offer. Expect him to join our staff soon.'

 

[topper]

Love Defoe but he’d be a terrible coach

Used to frustrate the hell out of me:

• incredible pace, but always being caught offside.
• One-on-one, he always opted for power straight at the GK over placement.
• Too greedy, never laying off to Keane/Berba/Crouchy when they were in better positions (laugh when people say every striker has to be selfish)
• Scorer of great goals rather than a great goal scorer

I wonder how many more chances he would have had at his peak with VAR?

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Love Defoe but he’d be a terrible coach

Used to frustrate the hell out of me:

• incredible pace, but always being caught offside.
• One-on-one, he always opted for power straight at the GK over placement.
• Too greedy, never laying off to Keane/Berba/Crouchy when they were in better positions (laugh when people say every striker has to be selfish)
• Scorer of great goals rather than a great goal scorer

Agree with this. Seems like a great guy and would love to get him back at the club in some capacity, but he used frustrate the hell out of me with his greediness.

 

[aliyid]

I wonder how many more chances he would have had at his peak with VAR?

Would it matter when you consider point 2

 

[$hoguN]

Nice bloke and great player. Will be great to have him back at the club

 

[SlotBadger]

 

[EQP]

 

[Thenewcat]

Since a debate about Richarlison led to a debate about Defoe on the opponents fans thread, I’ll post my (extremely unpopular) view here and say he’s probably the most overrated player by the spurs fan base in modern times.

good guy, gave everything, but his job was to score goals (he didn’t hold the ball up or create for others well) and he was not as good at that as people want you to believe. He had a great cup record (he was great at beating up lesser opposition) but in the league he scored 1 in 3 for spurs, which for a pure 9 just isn’t that good. He scored 18 one year (which is ok for an out and out striker but not elite) and never more than 13 in the premier league any other season. Not many teams are finishing top 4 if their out and out goalscorer is contributing 10-13 goals a year.

edit: love the fact that people think facts are funny or dislikeable. If you don’t agree say why instead of using negative ratings….

 

[hughy]

Since a debate about Richarlison led to a debate about Defoe on the opponents fans thread, I’ll post my (extremely unpopular) view here and say he’s probably the most overrated player by the spurs fan base in modern times.

good guy, gave everything, but his job was to score goals (he didn’t hold the ball up or create for others well) and he was not as good at that as people want you to believe. He had a great cup record (he was great at beating up lesser opposition) but in the league he scored 1 in 3 for spurs, which for a pure 9 just isn’t that good. He scored 18 one year (which is ok for an out and out striker but not elite) and never more than 13 in the premier league any other season. Not many teams are finishing top 4 if their out and out goalscorer is contributing 10-13 goals a year

You've been spoiled by Kane and Son type numbers.

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

@Thenewcat

 

[IfiHadTheWings]

You've been spoiled by Kane and Son type numbers.

We actually have.

i watch Richarlison spurn chances and think to myself he's half shite but it is just the fact that if you gave Harry Kane 3 chances he'd score 4 goals.

i now get most clubs pain at trying to find the gold dust that is a 20 goal a season striker.

 

[C1w8]

Since a debate about Richarlison led to a debate about Defoe on the opponents fans thread, I’ll post my (extremely unpopular) view here and say he’s probably the most overrated player by the spurs fan base in modern times.

good guy, gave everything, but his job was to score goals (he didn’t hold the ball up or create for others well) and he was not as good at that as people want you to believe. He had a great cup record (he was great at beating up lesser opposition) but in the league he scored 1 in 3 for spurs, which for a pure 9 just isn’t that good. He scored 18 one year (which is ok for an out and out striker but not elite) and never more than 13 in the premier league any other season. Not many teams are finishing top 4 if their out and out goalscorer is contributing 10-13 goals a year

Not sure what the debate was on the other thread though i'd agree his popularity is high compared to what he contributed as a player, not sure about most overrated (though i'll have a think!) in modern times...

The difference between Defoe and a lot of other centre forwards is that he could make a quick turn and ping it from outside the box at a higher level of accuracy/success than most others, so a lot of his goals carried more weight than the 6 yard tap in though he was good at that too whether thats fair or not.

Every time defoe got the ball edge of the box you knew there was a chance he was going to swivel and fire it into the top/bottom corner, so as a fan he was exciting to watch, a threat you dont get with say richarlison or most other centre forwards.

At the end of the day a lot of fans myself included attackers rightly or wrongly) on the degree of threat/excitement they brought to the team and defoe had that, even if it doesnt come through in the stats.

He also had two relatively successful spells as a player for us which is rare for any club, totalling probably 8-9 years, and played as part of a squad that is still considered one of our most exciting and that we look back on with a lot of favour. If he had played for a total of say 3 years in the Jose/Conte eras a 1 in 3 record i wouldnt have nearly as a high a standing i would suspect, the amount of time he spent with us is significant and why he gets talked about in such favourable terms also.

 

[Thenewcat]

Not sure what the debate was on the other thread though i'd agree his popularity is high compared to what he contributed as a player, not sure about most overrated (though i'll have a think!) in modern times...

The difference between Defoe and a lot of other centre forwards is that he could make a quick turn and ping it from outside the box at a higher level of accuracy/success than most others, so a lot of his goals carried more weight than the 6 yard tap in though he was good at that too whether thats fair or not.

Every time defoe got the ball edge of the box you knew there was a chance he was going to swivel and fire it into the top/bottom corner, so as a fan he was exciting to watch, a threat you dont get with say richarlison or most other centre forwards.

At the end of the day a lot of fans myself included attackers rightly or wrongly) on the degree of threat/excitement they brought to the team and defoe had that, even if it doesnt come through in the stats.

I think you’re right but obviously at the end of the day it doesn’t matter, a goal is a goal. When he signed I thought he was going to be a regular 20 a Season man with that short back lift off either foot, but ultimately he never hit the heights expected

 

[C1w8]

I think you’re right but obviously at the end of the day it doesn’t matter, a goal is a goal. When he signed I thought he was going to be a regular 20 a
Season man with that short back lift off either foot, but ultimately he never hit the heights expected

Suppose it depends on your expectations. Given that he was so small obviously he was never going to be an aerial threat so odds were always against him in that regard...for me i didnt really expect a harry kane level return at the time, as others have said we've been spoilt the last decade in that regard.

20 is a high bar....many years the golden boot is won with between 20-25 goals and most of the time those players take pens which defoe rarely did for us.

 

[Thenewcat]

Suppose it depends on your expectations. Given that he was so small obviously he was never going to be an aerial threat so odds were always against him in that regard...for me i didnt really expect a harry kane level return at the time, as others have said we've been spoilt the last decade in that regard.

20 is a high bar....many years the golden boot is won with between 20-25 goals and most of the time those players take pens which defoe rarely did for us.

20 is high but i honestly thought he would be that good. But I would have been shocked to learn he wouldn’t get 15-20, which he managed once. There’s a big gap between 13 (his second best season) and 20