Joe Cole - Signs for liverpool

[nicdic]

He is 200% going to Arsenal

:lol:

 

[brasil_spur]

He is 200% going to Arsenal

Excellent news!!! Based on your previous that means he's definitely not going to Arsenal! Happy days :wink:

 

[Maske2g]

He is 2 to 1 on to go to Arsenal.

 

[$hoguN]

That is usually a good indicator, but it can easily be swayed by bets so is hardly gospel

 

[ostrov]

If you believe Goal.com he's signed for Arsenal.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...oe-cole-has-signed-a-contract-to-join-arsenal

 

[$hoguN]

If you believe Goal.com he's signed for Arsenal.

http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...oe-cole-has-signed-a-contract-to-join-arsenal

Good job that we don't really isn't it? :lol:

 

[ostrov]

Good job that we don't really isn't it? :lol:

Something tells me it's bullshit.

 

[$hoguN]

The fact its on goal.com?

 

[DoublePivot]

He's most likely going to Arsenal. I think a lot of you need to come to terms with that now. Because it's going to brutal when he returns and does sign for them. You get your hopes up and he goes to the rivals and the next thing, a few of you will be wishing him cancer.

So try to use the month to forget about him coming. And if all the rumors are wrong and he were to come to us, you will then be pleasantly surprised rather than viciously angry.

 

[ostrov]

The fact its on goal.com?

Precisely.

 

[nedley]

Like I have previously stated, J cole would be a great signing for us. Exactly the type of player needed for next season. I couldnt give a monkeys about starting Xl's. More quality players are needed and players like O'Hara will leave in IMO.

That said, I will not loose sleep over not signing him. I believe he has or is going to sign for the goons, but I have trust in Levy and Harry to do the right things this summer.

 

[Pinto]

Hi bud, thanks for the detailed reply. My apologies for my one-liner.

As has been mentioned before, we don't know the full story as to why they released him. He said himself that there's a story to tell, and wouldn't it be nice if he told the story to Hotspur Magazine in the next few months. :wink:

I do think he's world class; he's one of England's best players. We need more world class players like him to compliment the other world class player we have in Luka Modric.

That is cool. I just don't think either Modric or J. Cole are world class, sure they are good but just outside the world class ranking, something very few should be given, Messi, Rooney, Ronaldo, Drogba and so forth, just the top of the top should be given.

Again this isn't to say I don't rate either Modric or Cole, Modric is my favorite Spurs player and Cole is very very good, just not world class. Anyway, I am sure there is a good reason or reasons for Cole not staying at Chelsea but world class players very rarely leave on a free with a club not wanting to pay wages in line with the rest of the squad. There is a reason Spurs went and up the salaries of both Bale and Modric, so they wouldn't be upset and would stay with Spurs, because we think they could or are world class players.

Anyway, I would too also love it if he told his story a couple months from now on the official website but have a bad feeling he is not coming to Spurs and is just waiting for the highest bidder, be it Arseanl after losing Cesc or Man U or Man City. Why else would he wait til after the World Cup unless he was holding out for more money. He is taking a huge risk so he isn't going to do all that and then end up signing for less money with Spurs.

 

[StartingPrice]

That is cool. I just don't think either Modric or J. Cole are world class, sure they are good but just outside the world class ranking, something very few should be given, Messi, Rooney, Ronaldo, Drogba and so forth, just the top of the top should be given.

Again this isn't to say I don't rate either Modric or Cole, Modric is my favorite Spurs player and Cole is very very good, just not world class. Anyway, I am sure there is a good reason or reasons for Cole not staying at Chelsea but world class players very rarely leave on a free with a club not wanting to pay wages in line with the rest of the squad. There is a reason Spurs went and up the salaries of both Bale and Modric, so they wouldn't be upset and would stay with Spurs, because we think they could or are world class players.

Anyway, I would too also love it if he told his story a couple months from now on the official website but have a bad feeling he is not coming to Spurs and is just waiting for the highest bidder, be it Arseanl after losing Cesc or Man U or Man City. Why else would he wait til after the World Cup unless he was holding out for more money. He is taking a huge risk so he isn't going to do all that and then end up signing for less money with Spurs.

I do agree that terms like 'great' and 'World Class' are thrown around far too cheaply.

I would suggest that Luka, while not quite Worl Class, ATM, has the potential to be recognised as such over the next few years.

 

[Pinto]

I do agree that terms like 'great' and 'World Class' are thrown around far too cheaply.

I would suggest that Luka, while not quite Worl Class, ATM, has the potential to be recognised as such over the next few years.

I am in total agreement with you, if Modric can add goalscoring to his talents and continue to improve on the rest of his game I think he would make world class.

I have been saying for the last 3 or 4 months now that if Modric adds goals to his game he would remind me of Cesc over at the scum. Cesc was just like Modric when he first got into the Prem as well, did everything very well except score goals, once he added that he got into the world class group. Same would go for Modric for me, once he consistently adds goals to his game he turns into a world class midfielder. Well he might need to get a few more assists as well if he is going to play central midfield but those should come if he can stay healthy for an entire season.

SP, what do you think of Joe Cole, is he world class in your opinion?

 

[StartingPrice]

I am in total agreement with you, if Modric can add goalscoring to his talents and continue to improve on the rest of his game I think he would make world class.

I have been saying for the last 3 or 4 months now that if Modric adds goals to his game he would remind me of Cesc over at the scum. Cesc was just like Modric when he first got into the Prem as well, did everything very well except score goals, once he added that he got into the world class group. Same would go for Modric for me, once he consistently adds goals to his game he turns into a world class midfielder. Well he might need to get a few more assists as well if he is going to play central midfield but those should come if he can stay healthy for an entire season.

SP, what do you think of Joe Cole, is he world class in your opinion?

If he's not, he is as cse as you can get without being.

One of he most important factors in judging these things is that all important medium sized word - consistency.

I woud agree with 'Arry that JC is ne of the most gifted players of our generation (and I'm not limiting that to Eglish players). But I just can't figure out whether he is World Class, but has been playing under managers who don't 'trust' him enough, and value his talents sufficiently, or, on te other hand, if he is just that little bit too hit-and-miss to be on the very highest rung. It should be said that he has been with the Chavs for 8 years that have been their most successful.

I do know he is sensational at his best. Whether, if he came to the Lane and reunited with his old mentor, he would get that extra trust and demonstrate that or not I really cannot say. I do know that that 'Arry likes his players to graft, so maybe that is an aspect of his game we don't quite appreciate yet.

 

[McFlash]

Just found this interesting quote from the paper's gossip round-up in General Football (granted, it's from the Sun)...

* Joe Cole has hit out after his Chelsea axe and pleaded: "I need a boss who believes in me."

Old 'Arry would certainly fit in there...Hmmmmm :think:

 

[Legend10]

Joe Cole world class?

Seriously the lad is a good player but if he's world class then there is quite a few universe class players out there!

 

[carrickature]

there's an article on Goal.com saying he's agreed a deal in principle with ARSENAL, but there's no qoutes, which leads me to believe that it's slightly less than a steaming pile of shit. http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...oe-cole-has-signed-a-contract-to-join-arsenal

EXCLUSIVE
By Wayne Veysey | Chief correspondent

England midfielder Joe Cole has signed a contract to join Arsenal, Goal.com UK can reveal.

The midfielder put pen to paper on an £80,000-a-week, three-year deal before flying out to South Africa with England’s World Cup squad.

The sensational free transfer has been kept under wraps by both parties because the agreement is dependent on Cole being able to prove his fitness when he returns from the World Cup.

Goal.com UK understands that Cole was put through his paces in a basic medical on Monday of last week, which was enough to convince manager Arsene Wenger to tie him to a deal that wards off other clubs.

But, in order to insure themselves from the England midfielder suffering a serious injury on World Cup duty, Arsenal insisted on inserting a clause that means Cole must pass a more stringent, full medical when he returns from South Africa for the deal to be officially completed.

The move has ended Tottenham, Manchester United, Manchester City and Liverpool’s hopes of signing one of the most coveted free agents on the market this summer.

Despite mixed messages from Harry Redknapp over the past week about making a move for Cole, it is understood that the player had talks with Spurs but did not receive an offer.

Wenger is a huge admirer of Cole’s technical skills and ability to play in any of the three advanced midfield positions in his favoured 4-2-3-1 formation.

The Arsenal manager’s only concerns were Cole’s wage demands and long-term fitness. The 28-year-old missed most of 2009 with knee ligament damage and has not completed a full competitive 90 minutes since February.

Although Cole will join second-tier earners Robin van Persie, Andrey Arshavin and William Gallas – in the unlikely event the Frenchman stays - as one of the best-paid players at Emirates Stadium, he will still be a long way short of captain Cesc Fabregas, who is on £110,000-a-week.

Arsenal made it clear in contract talks with Cole’s camp last week that they were unwilling to shatter their salary structure for a player with a chequered recent fitness record.

But the deal will include performance-related bonuses triggered by getting in the top four, winning the Premier League or the Champions League.

Ironically, part of the reason Chelsea let the midfielder go was because they would not bow to Cole’s demands for a 50 per cent hike on the £80,000-a-week he was earning at Stamford Bridge. The Premier League champions made one offer midway through the season which was rejected, and there has been no further offer made.

Cole’s signing is viewed by Arsenal in a similar way to the deal that brought Sol Campbell from Tottenham in 2001.

The club are willing to sanction such high-level wages because the deal does not involve a transfer fee and there is hope that Cole’s vast international experience and seven years spent with serial winners Chelsea will rub off on a dressing room that has not won a trophy in five years.

It is also a populist move because it increases the English contingent in a squad that has only one home-grown regular first-teamer in Theo Walcott.

 

[Pinto]

If he's not, he is as cse as you can get without being.

One of he most important factors in judging these things is that all important medium sized word - consistency.

I woud agree with 'Arry that JC is ne of the most gifted players of our generation (and I'm not limiting that to Eglish players). But I just can't figure out whether he is World Class, but has been playing under managers who don't 'trust' him enough, and value his talents sufficiently, or, on te other hand, if he is just that little bit too hit-and-miss to be on the very highest rung. It should be said that he has been with the Chavs for 8 years that have been their most successful.

I do know he is sensational at his best. Whether, if he came to the Lane and reunited with his old mentor, he would get that extra trust and demonstrate that or not I really cannot say. I do know that that 'Arry likes his players to graft, so maybe that is an aspect of his game we don't quite appreciate yet.

Will he ever get back to his best though? How long ago was that? 3-5 years ago? I for one am very worried that Chelsea know something about his knee that we don't and that is part of the reason they are not giving him a new contract. Why else do you let a pretty darn good player go with not much of a fuss?

Anyway, that has been talked about to death so I will just say I kind of lean your way that on the top of his game Cole could be considered world class but he isn't consistent enough or healthy enough to call him that.

 

[Flying_Jurgen]

Its tribal football i know

http://www.tribalfootball.com/tottenham-make-move-cole-arsenal-pull-out-896271


Tottenham are set to make a move for free agent Joe Cole as London rivals Arsenal pull out of the race.
The 28-year old former Chelsea midfielder has become a strong target for Spurs boss Harry Redknapp who managed him at West Ham but at the moment nothing is happening as Cole is in South Africa focusing on the World Cup with England.
"He's told us that he hasn't decided anything yet and he hasn't done anything definite,” Redknapp told Talksport.
"So there's a chance. I suppose it all depends on the financial side of it and everything else, but according to his agent, he’s not made up his mind yet.
"I think that Daniel [Levy], the chairman, has spoken to Joe's agent and he said that Joe didn't want to discuss any moves until after the World Cup. Then he's going to look at his options."
Arsenal chairman Peter Hill-Wood confirmed that the Gunners were not on the trail of Cole leaving Tottenham to have him all to themselves.
"I had a long conversation with (chief executive) Ivan Gazidis, who had been with Arsene (Wenger) and his name never came up at all,” he said.