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Streetspur77

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I believe there is for sure a huge lack of balanced views and assessments in the Balde thread. Absolutely, I cannot believe how all of the sudden everybody thinks he is the make it or break it player. But, the lack of a balanced and factual view on Balde isn't really a very good argument for signing King. I think there can be no doubt that King is the inferior player of the two. Lastly, I do not believe we can get King for a "decent price".

Agree with your last two points, it's a big IF that we can get him for a good price but I'd say 25 mill in today's market is acceptable

yeah he's definatly weaker hence the backup status that itk suggested but weaker than keita isn't a damning sentence I still think he's a good player with prem experience
 

THFCSPURS19

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OK so...

Keita scores 16 goals in Serie A in his only prolific season for Lazio.

King scores 16 goals in the Premier League in his only prolific season for Bournemouth.

One is seen as the holy grail, the other generates a very negative reaction from some.

I don't get it.

I know Keita is younger, and probably better, but given their respective end product, I don't think Josh King should be derided.
 

matty74

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Can't see Bournemouth selling king they don't need to sell and other than Defoe they have Callum Wilson who has been out for 2 years on and off with both knees knackered.

As each day goes by it gives other clubs less and less chance to replace players anyway
 

stevenurse

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Certainly not a signing that gets the heart racing. Yes he had a good season but he'd been bobbins before that and it's not like he's a young lad. I know the market is insane but anything over £15m is madness and I know we won't, but if we did pay £30m or whatever is being banded about I'd give up on our scouting system
 

Everlasting Seconds

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OK so...

Keita scores 16 goals in Serie A in his only prolific season for Lazio.

King scores 16 goals in the Premier League in his only prolific season for Bournemouth.

One is seen as the holy grail, the other generates a very negative reaction from some.

I don't get it.

I know Keita is younger, and probably better, but given their respective end product, I don't think Josh King should be derided.
I believe this notion that one is criticised and the other is not is false. In fact, both players have been described on SC in far too positive terms. Neither one of them would have even been close to satisfying the average SC user at Christmas 2016. Ultimately, the lack of balanced and level-headed comments on one of those options is not a good reason to go sign the other.

In fact, both follows a similar comment trajectory this summer. Never really heard of this player, hardly seen him play, don't know that much about him, we are linked OH MY GOD I WANT HIM I WANT HIM PAY WHAT IT TAKES LEVY WE NEED HIM! Ehm ... who is he again? Is he English? Norwegian? French? Something African? I DON'T KNOW BUT I WANT HIM!

Jesus wept.
 

Sweech

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Jun 27, 2013
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The 'kinginho' comment is more suggesting he if was more exotic then he'd be more appealing to people, not simply his nationality

I honestly think if he was coming from a club with more pedigree than people would be more positive about this link

Otherwise what is the explanation for him being called a one season wonder for most of his goals coming in half the season and then keita not being criticised for half of his goals in the last 5

Don't get me wrong I'd much prefer keita and am very disappointed it's not happening but king is not a terrible backup if we can get him for a decent price
My main worry is a) half a season of production.

Plus b) that half season has unsuastainable scoring rates for shooting and scoring. That will not be repeated.

Couldn't give a toss about nationality or about the team's prestige. We're typically linked with unprestigious team's players anyway.
 

Donki

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We can talk and talk but really no one knows for sure how he would get on, on last season he really impressed me. A lot of people weren't convinced by Trippier or Wanyama when we signed them, this stretches right back to when we signed Parker. People tend to prefer a bit of foriegn tart, even though they probably never seen them play, over a player they see more often. It's always been the way.
 

Streetspur77

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My main worry is a) half a season of production.

Plus b) that half season has unsuastainable scoring rates for shooting and scoring. That will not be repeated.

Couldn't give a toss about nationality or about the team's prestige. We're typically linked with unprestigious team's players anyway.

Sorry what do you mean by unsustainable scoring rates?

I understand if people aren't happy with this link but then you also, and I'm not sure on your opinion on it, have to have been against the keita signing aswell based the fact he only had one prolific season aswell and scored half his goals in 5 games

If you were against the keita signing or at least not excited by it then your view is valid, otherwise I don't see the logic in being annoyed at king being our backup option
 

JayB

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King is 25, has over 150 senior appearances, and has had one purple patch in his career. Keita is in his early 20s and is coming off of his breakout season. The fact that the two scored the same number of goals last season does not mean they are comparable.
 

diamond lights

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If Poch thinks King has what we're looking for then I'd welcome him. Not an exotic signing but a pacy, hard working player coming into his prime.

The fact he can play across the front line will add appeal too.
 

spursfan77

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King is 25, has over 150 senior appearances, and has had one purple patch in his career. Keita is in his early 20s and is coming off of his breakout season. The fact that the two scored the same number of goals last season does not mean they are comparable.

I agree. I just watched King's goals from last season and they are all a bit different. Didn't see any with him using his pace though although I though he was meant to be rapid.
 

Blue

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I have seen most matches king has played for the Norwegian national team (and some matches for Bournemouth) and i do not think he is good enough for spurs. He has potential but i feel he is too raw. Im afraid this could very much turn into a new Janssen setting if we should sign him.
 

Larryjanta

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He's also proven in the prem which we know Poch likes. I think he'll surprise people just as Toby and Wanyama did tbh.

We need someone who has pace and goals from out wide and can be a better option for Harry.
 

scat1620

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IMO (and feel very free to disagree), signing King would have loud echoes of our purchase of Clint Dempsey. Strong "thanks, but no thanks" from me.
 
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He's also proven in the prem which we know Poch likes. I think he'll surprise people just as Toby and Wanyama did tbh.

We need someone who has pace and goals from out wide and can be a better option for Harry.

I see your point but only one season in the Prem doesnt make you proven, if he did it again yes that adds more credence.

Outside of that king is not worth a 30M risk imo
 

THFCSPURS19

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I see your point but only one season in the Prem doesnt make you proven, if he did it again yes that adds more credence.

Outside of that king is not worth a 30M risk imo
Toby only had one season in the PL before we signed him.
 
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