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La Liga file FFP complaint against City & PSG

BoringOldFan

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Can’t see them getting very far, though. Plus, being the league with Real and Barca playing fairly fast & loose with financing rules doesn’t exactly give them the moral high ground, much less the legal one.

 

Col_M

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its like they've had their fun, and now don't like it that others are doing it. BUT I wish the luck!
 

allatsea

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RM getting the Madrid government to grossly overpay for some land so bailing them out. But now they or their League have the cheek to complain about PSG and Man City :LOL:
 

aliyid

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La liga - 6 of top 10 biggest transfers
Ligue 1 - 2
Serie A - 1
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DJS

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Lol la liga having the cheek to complain about anyone not abiding by financial rules…
 

Tucker

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Barca and Real may well have been profligate in the past, but teams like PSG, City and Newcastle are far far worse for the state of the game.
 

Japhet

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The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Barca and Real may well have been profligate in the past, but teams like PSG, City and Newcastle are far far worse for the state of the game.

I don't see why to be honest. It's all relative, and Real and Barca had their turn at being top of the heap through dodgy financing. It just happens that many clubs have now caught up and the amounts of money are astronomical by comparison and the sources are frankly disgusting, but it's the same formula. Real and Barca just set the ball rolling.
 

Tucker

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I don't see why to be honest. It's all relative, and Real and Barca had their turn at being top of the heap through dodgy financing. It just happens that many clubs have now caught up and the amounts of money are astronomical by comparison and the sources are frankly disgusting, but it's the same formula. Real and Barca just set the ball rolling.
Real and Barca were the naturally dominant sides in spanish football. The reason they could spend so much was because they earned it, much like Man United did, or Bayern.

City, PSG, and soon Newcastle will (and have) skewed the competitiveness to such an extent that the French league is now a one club league, to a lesser extent so is the premier league. City have won 3 out of the last 4. These state funded clubs can just keep spending, even above what domestic dominance would allow. There’s no way anyone else will be able to compete and it’s just going to get worse.
 

Japhet

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Real and Barca were the naturally dominant sides in spanish football. The reason they could spend so much was because they earned it, much like Man United did, or Bayern.

City, PSG, and soon Newcastle will (and have) skewed the competitiveness to such an extent that the French league is now a one club league, to a lesser extent so is the premier league. City have won 3 out of the last 4. These state funded clubs can just keep spending, even above what domestic dominance would allow. There’s no way anyone else will be able to compete and it’s just going to get worse.


I blame the complete failure of FFP for most of that. They'll keep spending stupid amounts as long as they get away with it. I'd also add that I don't understand how Abramovic has been allowed to write off 1.5 billion owed to him by Chelsea when his assets (including monies owed presumably) have been seized by the UK Government.
 

Japhet

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They're complaining about state owned clubs and they're absolutely spot on.

Yes, but only because they've been knocked off their perch after previously sanctioning frankly ludicrous deals for the likes of Mbappe and Neymar. They're annoyed about the money but I doubt they give a shit about where it's coming from and at what humanitarian cost, which is the real issue.
 

LSUY

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Real and Barca were the naturally dominant sides in spanish football. The reason they could spend so much was because they earned it, much like Man United did, or Bayern.

City, PSG, and soon Newcastle will (and have) skewed the competitiveness to such an extent that the French league is now a one club league, to a lesser extent so is the premier league. City have won 3 out of the last 4. These state funded clubs can just keep spending, even above what domestic dominance would allow. There’s no way anyone else will be able to compete and it’s just going to get worse.
Barca (along with Bilbao) posed as a non-profit in order to lower their tax bill and Real sold land to the city of Madrid for well over its market value. The local government in Valencia used public guarantees to cover Valencia CF's commercial loans. When it came out that La Liga clubs had an outstanding tax debt of €750m with an additional €660m in unpaid social security (at a time when Spain was receiving bailouts from the EU) the Spanish Minister for Sport suggested the government cancel their tax debts. Spanish football was built on state aid giving them an unfair advantage. The only reason La Liga is complaining is that PSG and City are owned by states that can piss a lot more money up the wall than Spain can.
 

Clockspur

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Real and Barca were the naturally dominant sides in spanish football. The reason they could spend so much was because they earned it, much like Man United did, or Bayern.

City, PSG, and soon Newcastle will (and have) skewed the competitiveness to such an extent that the French league is now a one club league, to a lesser extent so is the premier league. City have won 3 out of the last 4. These state funded clubs can just keep spending, even above what domestic dominance would allow. There’s no way anyone else will be able to compete and it’s just going to get worse.
Barca earnt £1bn debt?
 

Tucker

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Barca (along with Bilbao) posed as a non-profit in order to lower their tax bill and Real sold land to the city of Madrid for well over its market value. The local government in Valencia used public guarantees to cover Valencia CF's commercial loans. When it came out that La Liga clubs had an outstanding tax debt of €750m with an additional €660m in unpaid social security (at a time when Spain was receiving bailouts from the EU) the Spanish Minister for Sport suggested the government cancel their tax debts. Spanish football was built on state aid giving them an unfair advantage. The only reason La Liga is complaining is that PSG and City are owned by states that can piss a lot more money up the wall than Spain can.
I think that’s a false equivalence. Clubs doing shady stuff to lower their tax burden isn’t exactly anything new is it? Nor is local governments providing support to local businesses and culturally significant entities. It’s completely different to the kind of shenanigans beings pulled at City/PSG/Newcastle and to a lesser extent Chelsea.

Is it a bit rich for big spending clubs like Real and Barca to now cry foul about other clubs outspending them? sure.

That doesn’t make what La Liga are complaining about any less heinous. Or any less damaging to the fabric of the game.
 

Clockspur

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No, but they most certainly earned their success. It wasn’t purchased for them by some sportswashing sugar daddy dictator.
They’ve had years of sharing the majority of the TV income with Real and to a lesser degree Atletico whilst the rest get scraps. Despite that they have racked up a Billion in debt - even with qualifying for the Champions league every year and winning it a few times.

I mean how fucking financially reckless do you actually have to be to find yourself in that situation.

Fuck em, they had their success built on debt, but now they have to pay the piper.
 
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