Let's All Laugh At... Let's all laugh at Chelsea thread

[Tucker]

Any chance of them being sanctioned even more and deducted 20 points?

No. The government aren’t going to get involved with a sports league, and the premier league don’t have any mechanism or desire to punish teams for their owners actions. I suspect one of the main reasons Chelsea have been given licence to continue operating is that them being frozen completely would cause chaos to the premier league. The government have no appetite to cause any damage to English football. The premier league have no appetite to get involved in geo politics.

Thoughts about trophies being given back, or points being deducted are fantasy I am afraid.

If however Chelsea go into administration as a result of their accounts being frozen, then they’ll likely get a points deduction.

 

[McFlash]

Anyone who believes that Chelsea will suddenly become our and everyone else's whipping team, and that they will rapidly move down the table are living in cloud cuckoo land.

I don't want it to happen suddenly, I want a long, slow and painful descent. ?

 

[riggi]

Chelsea will land on their feet. They will get new owners. Win more cups and all will be the same.

 

[Tucker]

Disappointing from Nike. But unsurprising, it’s a long term deal, and they likely see this a short term problem.

 

[Gb160]

Anyone who believes that Chelsea will suddenly become our and everyone else's whipping team, and that they will rapidly move down the table are living in cloud cuckoo land.

The reality is no one knows, everyones just guessing/hoping, including yourself.

 

[Saoirse]

 

[sausage]

Got to say, there's something deliciously ironic about a man, who made billions from money owed to people from a communist scam, having his assets claimed by a government in a communistic way, after his country attempts to reassemble themselves back into their former state.

The ideal outcome is that the club is sold and the proceeds pay to repair the damage caused in Ukraine, but I can only imagine it'll line the pockets of an anonymous shill company associated with an MP or two.

 

[ItsBoris]

Looking at an issue through a microscope to find surface area for "nuance" isn't very nuanced.

If Chelsea didn't have fans or sporting commitments towards fairness for rival clubs it probably wouldn't exist anymore.

The emotional response to fans losing their club is valid. I feel it, too. I am sympathetic. But it's a response based on emotion not reason, logic, or rationale.

It does not follow that feeling sorry for lifelong Chelsea fans means applying some sort of exceptionalist measures towards the club which, in essence, is an asset just like his homes and yachts are.

A club being wound up for unpaid taxes is a tragedy but one the club and its leaders are responsible for, not HMRC. Same with sanctions.

We had the same debates when the Super League clubs were at risk of points deductions and competition bans: "punish the leaders/owners not the fans."

This is nonsense. There is no distinction between "Levy" and "the club". That's the whole point of leadership and ownership. He leads a club and is responsible for its actions. The club is then exposed to his actions.

If someone puts his house up on a bey and loses, his family become homeless. It's a grave injustice to those children. But they still lose their home.

There's this prevailing idea among football fans is that they can enjoy the fruits of risky leadership but should then be shielded from miscalculations committed by those same leaders. When things go wrong, this nostalgia for football's utopian past (which, arguably, never even existed) overwhelms the discussions of our dystopian present. As if averting our gaze through all the bullshit— with tacit complicity— can then be rowed back at the first sign of trouble.

Levy was right to "not let THFC be left behind" but, when things go wrong, THFC cannot be punished for Levy's misadventures. Chelsea fans tacitly support the entire rationale for pumping the club for two decades then argue "they" shouldn't be punished for the owner's actions. As if the club's status as global superclub can be carved out of links to Abramovich. This isn't Italy asking for luxury goods waivers during negotiations on sanctions. The club as a corporate entity is seeped in blood. The club as a "community asset" can continue regardless of what happens.

Abramovich's company doesn't own the name. It doesn't own the pitch. Fans can and will support "Chelsea Football Club" whatever form it takes going forward. Even if it's not competing at the top of the Premier League for a bit, they're actually the best-placed team to survive existential threats like this. At the very least in terms of its "community value" as a football club playing football in front of loyal football fans. Much like the hundreds of clubs throughout England's football pyramid.

After all, aren't you saying this is what it's all about?

Again, you must misunderstand what I've been saying. I have no issue with collateral damage, as unfortunate as it is. It's not about feeling sorry for Chelsea fans or saying they should be shielded from their owners actions. My point is only this: let's not apply sanctions that create unnecessary collateral damage. Some of these punishments don't serve a purpose, and are being justified by jingoism and emotional arguments rather than impartial legal and political reasoning, in my view.

 

[curlacious]

I heard a new word today. Shedendfreude.

The pleasure derived from Chelsea's misfortune.

 

[gazzeh]

Chelsea will land on their feet. They will get new owners. Win more cups and all will be the same.

doubt it at this rate.

 

[N17paradise]

My take on Chelsea being sold......As The war in Ukraine intensifies, Chelsea FC becomes so toxic because of its association to the current Putin regime. Who would want to take it on. It's great success over the past 20 years and its rise to super club status will always be attributed to the Abramovich ill gotten gains. Regarding sponsorship, would you want a football club that will always be associated to the slaughter of innocent woman & children, I know thats sounds harsh, but the moment the government sanctioned Abramovich, its value diminished. RANT OVER.

 

[Saoirse]

https://theathletic.com/news/chelse...with-sanctions/frxHZZ1Eoe3K/?source=twitteruk

"There are, however, significant limitations on what money can be spent on and how it can be spent.



It is understood that temporarily extends to company credit cards at Chelsea — and means they have currently been left unable to buy fuel for the team bus."



The wheels on the bus go noooo-where! Nooooo-where! Nooooo-where! The wheels on the bus go nooooo-where! FUCK OFF CHELSEA!!!

 

[mark87]

https://theathletic.com/news/chelse...with-sanctions/frxHZZ1Eoe3K/?source=twitteruk

"There are, however, significant limitations on what money can be spent on and how it can be spent.



It is understood that temporarily extends to company credit cards at Chelsea — and means they have currently been left unable to buy fuel for the team bus."



The wheels on the bus go noooo-where! Nooooo-where! Nooooo-where! The wheels on the bus go nooooo-where! FUCK OFF CHELSEA!!!

Hitchhiking it is then.

 

[luRRka]

I had a spare 5 mins today and I was in the area so thought I'd drive past Stamford Bridge to give it my best boycie impression and laugh out loud at them.

Someone has scrawled graffiti on the outside of one of the wooden hoardings something like "Europe is funding the war not CFC. Leave our club alone" I can just imagine the absolute knuckle dragger who wrote it

 

[slartibartfast]

 

[slartibartfast]

I had a spare 5 mins today and I was in the area so thought I'd drive past Stamford Bridge to give it my best boycie impression and laugh out loud at them.

Someone has scrawled graffiti on the outside of one of the wooden hoardings something like "Europe is funding the war not CFC. Leave our club alone" I can just imagine the absolute knuckle dragger who wrote it

To be fair this is a difficult situation that you cant really expect a knuckle dragger to understand.

 

[BehindEnemyLines]

The VAT man will be knocking on their door any day.

I am convinced that Roman won't sell the club and write off £2bn..........he'd be a fucking idiot if he did! Besides which, I'm pretty sure he'll have more important things on his mind right now.

 

[mil1lion]

https://theathletic.com/news/chelse...with-sanctions/frxHZZ1Eoe3K/?source=twitteruk

"There are, however, significant limitations on what money can be spent on and how it can be spent.



It is understood that temporarily extends to company credit cards at Chelsea — and means they have currently been left unable to buy fuel for the team bus."



The wheels on the bus go noooo-where! Nooooo-where! Nooooo-where! The wheels on the bus go nooooo-where! FUCK OFF CHELSEA!!!

From Spurs parking the bus to Chelsea not having the fuel for the bus. How times have changed.

 

[Tucker]

If their bank account is suspended they won’t be able to pay wages. How will they operate?

 

[Col_M]

We can all take some small pleasure in the fact that Chelsea’s operating licence does not allow them to pay any fees to agents, even for work already done.

Ooh. Didn’t know that. Nice.