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Blake Griffin

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it's like they have a system in mind that they want to play but have decided to buy everyone who fits into something entirely different. mata, rooney and van persie is crux of the problem, they all want to operate in similar areas of the pitch which impacts what they want to do with the rest of the side.
 

nailsy

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No real surprise that they are struggling so far. They haven't really got replacements for Vidic, Ferdinand or Evra in the starting line-up yet. Di Maria will be an excellent player for them, but their problems are at the back rather than up front.
 

dontcallme

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Not sure why everyone is so critical of the potential Di Maria purchase. As Liverpool found with Ballotelli, buying a player who is available is much easier than buying a player the club doesn't want to sell.

Di Maria is quality and gives Utd great options going forward.

It seems they are looking to spend so will buy defenders if they can. Doesn't stop them from buying Di Maria.
 

beats1

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Not sure why everyone is so critical of the potential Di Maria purchase. As Liverpool found with Ballotelli, buying a player who is available is much easier than buying a player the club doesn't want to sell.

Di Maria is quality and gives Utd great options going forward.

It seems they are looking to spend so will buy defenders if they can. Doesn't stop them from buying Di Maria.
The reason why the di maria signing is poor is because you still have this, behind the front 3

Shaw --- Fletcher -- Herrera --- Valencia
Rojo -- Smalling -- Jones
 

dontcallme

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The reason why the di maria signing is poor is because you still have this, behind the front 3

Shaw --- Fletcher -- Herrera --- Valencia
Rojo -- Smalling -- Jones

If you read my post you'd understand that this doesn't matter.

Utd have money to spend. It's not a case of them buying Di Maria at the expense of other positions.

Di Maria is available so they are buying him.

If they can get defenders and CMs of a quality they need I've no doubt they will.
 

noiseboy55

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64 million on a player they don't really need when should be buying a couple of quality centre backs. one word MEGALOLZ
 

beats1

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If you read my post you'd understand that this doesn't matter.

Utd have money to spend. It's not a case of them buying Di Maria at the expense of other positions.

Di Maria is available so they are buying him.

If they can get defenders and CMs of a quality they need I've no doubt they will.
Yet they aren't being linked with any moves for a CB

They spent:
Shaw - £30m possibly rising to £34m
Herrera - £29m with duty £34.8m
Rojo - £16m with 20% sell on clause and Nani wages for a year
Di Maria - £64m

Now at £144.8m spent, you would expect them to have less weaknesses than they are showing

Also Di Maria and possibly Herrera aren't suited to 352, which then makes you think they will go 433/343. However LVG said Rooney wont be played deeper and would be his no.10 or no.9. This means he will be dropped or RVP will be

If they don't get CL this season what would happen then? its a big risk
 
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kaz Hirai

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64 million on a player they don't really need when should be buying a couple of quality centre backs. one word MEGALOLZ


Once they spend that 64 million it doesn't mean they are done. They could quite easily spend another 50 million on defenders after

Wouldn't mega lol just yet
 

beats1

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Once they spend that 64 million it doesn't mean they are done. They could quite easily spend another 50 million on defenders after

Wouldn't mega lol just yet
The issue with them hasn't been spending money. The issue is on who?

They wanted Vermaelen, then Barcelona came in
They wanted Benatia, then Bayern came in

They are currently linked with Blind, De Jong and Vlaar. I think it says alot when Vlaar is a much needed signing.

If they get Cuadrado(though barca really want him) then that one signing could change their season(even though its not really started yet)

RVP -- Di Maria
Mata
Shaw -- Blind --- Herrera -- Cuadrado
Rojo -- Jones -- Vlaar
De Gea
The thing is are United going to spend potentially another £50m. Even then their CB's are the worst of the top clubs imo
 

dontcallme

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Yet they aren't being linked with any moves for a CB

The issue with them hasn't been spending money. The issue is on who?

They wanted Vermaelen, then Barcelona came in
They wanted Benatia, then Bayern came in

They are currently linked with Blind, De Jong and Vlaar. I think it says alot when Vlaar is a much needed signing.

If they get Cuadrado(though barca really want him) then that one signing could change their season(even though its not really started yet.


So they aren't being linked with centre backs other than the list of ones you've mentioned?

Brings us back to Utd signing Di Maria does not affect their chase for a centre back.

They are buying Di Maria because he is available.

They will buy one of the centre backs you've listed if they can agree a deal, the Di Maria purchase has no bearing on this.​
 

Danny1

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noiseboy55

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Once they spend that 64 million it doesn't mean they are done. They could quite easily spend another 50 million on defenders after

Wouldn't mega lol just yet
Thing is, they've already spent nearly 150m if the Di Maria signing goes through, and they don't exactly look like world beaters from it. 30 million on Shaw? Nuts. 64 million on Di Maria? Nuts. That's nearly 100 million on 2 positions - you cant do that through the whole team. They could have significantly strengthened their squad if they'd have spent that wisely. Even if they buy a couple more players now I still think their squad is unbalanced and full of average players.
 

Flynn

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£50M on a defender.... Not sure we want to sell Dawson to one of our rivals :)

I think the money quoted for Di Maria is a lot but seeing as it'll allow RM to pay the next installment on Bale / Modric then all to the good.

Overall I think Man U will need to be very patient with this one, it could take a couple of years to see LVG's vision working. THey could be in for a tough time up till then.
 

Donki

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I rate Di Maria highly in La Liga he could have great difficulty in the PL, only time will tell.

Man U gambling massively, spending massive money and set to spend more to fill the holes at the back, be interesting to see their finances if they face another season without Champions League.
 

HurriKane

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Every interview Van Gaal says - its about philosophy and not about results.

And every game, they play shit3 & look so average.

Did we really overrate him ?
 

KILLA_SIN

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Every interview Van Gaal says - its about philosophy and not about results.

And every game, they play shit3 & look so average.

Did we really overrate him ?

I dont think he is overrated, by his own account it normally takes half a season for his team to start playing the way he wants them too. Obviously hes had big high pressure jobs before but the squads at Barca and Bayern were a lot better than the one he has inherited here. You just look through the squad and other than the few mentioned big name players its looks ordinary and the depth is lacking. Time will tell I think he will get it right but it might be not this season.
 

tomo

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Di Maria is a good signing end of story. He would absolutely thrive in our system and can probably adapt to Utds.
Really enjoying this Utd slump but unfortunately they have the financial clout to spend their way out of it which is pretty depressing really - all it comes down to these days is money.
Definitely rule them out of the title but they will eventually be back in the top 4 mix, probably this season.
Van Gaal will turn it around, just enjoy it while it lasts, which might not be for much longer.
 

HurriKane

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Di Maria is a good signing end of story. He would absolutely thrive in our system and can probably adapt to Utds.
Really enjoying this Utd slump but unfortunately they have the financial clout to spend their way out of it which is pretty depressing really - all it comes down to these days is money.
Definitely rule them out of the title but they will eventually be back in the top 4 mix, probably this season.
Van Gaal will turn it around, just enjoy it while it lasts, which might not be for much longer.


I can't see them in top4 this season. United needs ugly wins till their team settle. But looks like RVP & Rooney are loosing steam and rest are plain mediocre. Before LVG realises, 10 games would have been gone and a possible 8 or 10 point gap would have opened. However they may improve, PL is unforgiving - they may not catch the rest.

IMO, if United are 8 to 10 points behind by October, its bye bye CL this season.
 

tomo

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I can't see them in top4 this season. United needs ugly wins till their team settle. But looks like RVP & Rooney are loosing steam and rest are plain mediocre. Before LVG realises, 10 games would have been gone and a possible 8 or 10 point gap would have opened. However they may improve, PL is unforgiving - they may not catch the rest.

IMO, if United are 8 to 10 points behind by October, its bye bye CL this season.

Hope so. I think it's too early to rule them out. If they sign a decent centre back this week then their first 11 could suddenly look a lot stronger than it did 1 week ago.
 
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