Levy

[StartingPrice]

A lot of names on this thread that have been rather quiet since our first two games of the season.


Must have been extremely frustrating, waiting all this time for the opportunity to whine.

Oh, I have been very vocal...and about hwo wonderful we were/were going to do - now, I am distinctly unimpressed - hove you seen Twitcher's post-match interview?

 

[sunnydelight786]

A lot of names on this thread that have been rather quiet since our first two games of the season.


Must have been extremely frustrating, waiting all this time for the opportunity to whine.

Fans, the one constant at THFC no matter what happens, have every reason to vent their frustration right now. We have watched our team give away a 13 point lead to Arsenal to be possibly 5 points behind them by tomorrow night, that's a 18 point swing in the space of 2 months. In over 30 years of supporting Spurs, 15 of them as a season ticket holder, this is fast becoming the most embarrassing season in my Spurs supporting life time. I'm worried, very fucking worried, with what's going on and the blame lyes solely at the feet of the management team and coaching staff. The team is self imploding for the second season running and they don't have a clue how to halt the slide. It's not good enough and why should we accept it....?

 

[Kingstheman]

Oh, I have been very vocal...and about hwo wonderful we were/were going to do - now, I am distinctly unimpressed - how you seen Twitcher's post-match interview?

That interview really worried me.

What the HELL was he going on about? People say we play best when we play 4-4-2... (who is 'we', you are the manager), but we don't have the strikers tracking back to do it (so why play it?). He mentioned playing 4 forwards? Well, that was silly.

The interview he gave can ONLY worry Spurs fans.

And I still believe we can get 4th and the cup...

 

[StartingPrice]

That interview really worried me.

What the HELL was he going on about? People say we play best when we play 4-4-2... (who is 'we', you are the manager), but we don't have the strikers tracking back to do it (so why play it?). He mentioned playing 4 forwards? Well, that was silly.

The interview he gave can ONLY worry Spurs fans.

And I still believe we can get 4th and the cup...

"Yeah...yeah...triffic...run abat abit...play 4-4-2...if you feel like it...or summit...give it a go...up and at 'um...they're a triffic team, Norwich, the Barca of East Anglia...smashin'...Jazz-Tactics...someone said we is good in a 4-4-2...I let Journos tell me what team to pick, and what tactics to play - gis the Engerland jobby...or summit..."

 

[sunnydelight786]

I have tweeted about a dozen journos asking them "why are you afraid to criticise your mate Redknapp", surprise surprise not one has replied.....

 

[NEVILLEB]

You know much a few million is, right?

It's fucking substantial.

I've acted for companies whose directors will full on stall a deal if they think the pounds and pence aren't right. Deals worth half a billion.

You don't become a successful business (which is what football is in 2012) by throwing a few million here and a few million there.

Unless you're Peter Ridsdale.

Do you know how much £30 million in Champions League revenue is?

Thats what a few million saved may lose us.

 

[Stoof]

Do you know how much £30 million in Champions League revenue is?

Thats what a few million saved may lose us.

But you're talking in hypotheticals. Complete hypotheticals. Cisse has bucked the trend in January signings - and I'm still not convinced on Jelavic.

You don't gamble with millions of pounds when our turnover is what it is. Sorry, you just don't. It's just not how you do business.

And, not being funny, I'm going to side with Daniel Levy on "running a business" rather than you. Sorry pal.

 

[Black]

Trying to blame levy, you clowns

 

[striebs]

Do you know how much £30 million in Champions League revenue is?

Thats what a few million saved may lose us.

It's the hidden costs which noone ever properly accounts for .

In many businesses a phase of a project comes to the end and a whole bunch of people leave taking their experience and project specific knowledge with them .

Directors never seem to be held accountable for retaining the human capital of the business ; which is almost always under-valued and may indeed be the lions share of the business in industries like software development .

At least in football you get to recover some of the cost with a transfer fee but there are hidden costs all the same .

Football is not subject to competition laws like other businesses . If it was , Daniel Levy may well have invested .

My feeling is that D.L. knew failure to invest would probably cost us but also knew that even if he went all out , Man City , Man Utd , Chelsea and Arsenal could outspend him - easily . Even if we managed to get CL for a year , the richer clubs would be able to usurp us .

It is pointless investing any more bucks necessary than to get 5th or 6th place when other teams can ultimately outspend us and clinch the CL qualification places .

THFC need financial fair play , a new stadium and a bigger merchandising overseas to compete .

 

[Mullers]

Do you know how much £30 million in Champions League revenue is?

Thats what a few million saved may lose us.

30 million is how much you get for being in the CL? So what have we done with our revenue from our last CL experience?

 

[Bobbins]

It's the hidden costs which noone ever properly accounts for .

In many businesses a phase of a project comes to the end and a whole bunch of people leave taking their experience and project specific knowledge with them .

Directors never seem to be held accountable for retaining the human capital of the business ; which is almost always under-valued and may indeed be the lions share of the business in industries like software development .

At least in football you get to recover some of the cost with a transfer fee but there are hidden costs all the same .

Football is not subject to competition laws like other businesses . If it was , Daniel Levy may well have invested .

My feeling is that D.L. knew failure to invest would probably cost us but also knew that even if he went all out , Man City , Man Utd , Chelsea and Arsenal could outspend him - easily . Even if we managed to get CL for a year , the richer clubs would be able to usurp us .

It is pointless investing any more bucks necessary than to get 5th or 6th place when other teams can ultimately outspend us and clinch the CL qualification places .

THFC need financial fair play , a new stadium and a bigger merchandising overseas to compete .

Exactly. I've said many times in many different threads that no matter how good we get or how good a season we have, or even how good our players are - until we have a new stadium with a much increased income, we will always be having a better season than we really should. We don't have the spending power of the big clubs and we have no divine right to be top 4 just because sometimes we look really good or go on a good run and the press start their shit about 'the balance of power shifting' and Spurs being the replacement for Arsenal or Chelsea. It's bollocks.

The only club we've actually gained ground on and perhaps overhauled is Liverpool, and I still think they have the finances to quickly catch up if they make some decent signings and get a new manager.

We are still, in every way (with the exception of probably 3 or 4 players in our squad) an upper-mid-table side. Top 6 is a realistic minimum aim until we can pay higher wages and transfer fees.

This doesn't however mean I can put up with Redknapp coming out with any more 'Spurs fans should fink emselves lucky they're in the Premiership, they've never 'ad it so good, they ain't never won nuffink' bollocks - if we're in a position where we are punching above the weight of the club as a whole, then I expect us to at least stay there until other clubs buy better players, not fall away with ten games to go every year.

 

[theShiznit]

I'm sure Levy sat down with Redknapp in Jan and said "we're sitting pretty 'arry, we don't need anyone do we? How 'bout getting Pienaar/Bassong/Corluka/Pav off the wages and getting in a couple of oldies dirt cheap? You know it makes sense..."

Levy is interested in what is best for Our club, he has no interest in appealing to the masses or self promotion.

The fact that we have ballsed up a mammoth lead with inept tactical decisions and can only (apparently) be motivated by humiliation is not really Levy's fault... is it?

 

[sunnydelight786]

Our level of performance has got nothing to do with income/revenue at the moment, if we were judging teams by that criteria then how is it a team like Norwich City come to our place and play us off the park seeing their whole team cost less than Modric !!

 

[Spursidol]

30 million is how much you get for being in the CL? So what have we done with our revenue from our last CL experience?

Redknapp spent close on £100 million when he came in, some on borrowed money, probably a good deal has gone to repay the cost of those players plus a good deal went on paying the players bonuss for the CL achievements - the £30m is gross before expenses. Suggest you look at Spurs P & L in the 30 June 2011 accounts on OS and cash flows for more complete analysis.

 

[Stoof]

We're not talking about 'subs'...we're talking about the squad. The top clubs rotate their squads effectively which helps them maintain their performance level across the entire season. IMO, Redknapp doesn't do this and it results in the players becoming jaded at the business end of the season.

Yet Lennon and VDV have both had fairly long spells off. As has Sandro.

I don't think Norwich or Swansea have particularly rotated their squads, and they looked full of beans.

You also forgot about letting Corluka go. It's scandalous that we have only one recognised right-back, let alone one that is relatively inexperienced and playing only his first full season of top-flight football.

I didn't forget that. Kaboul can play at right back too. And considering the level of Walker's performance this year, you wouldn't have Corluka back in the team. Not even on rotation.

If Corluka had pitched up yesterday, you would be going bat-shit crazy. You can't have it both ways.

The squad's not weaker. It's just not.

 

[theShiznit]

I think Sandro has been handled really badly.
Ok he got injured early on in the season which was unfortunate, but when he came back after a long spell out he was played into the ground. (IIRC he played 3 games in a week for us then flew out to play in a friendly for Brazil) and limped of injured in our next game.

The Sandro from last season only looked really good after about 5-6 games in a row, and he has not got close to that this season, and as a result has been constantly playing catch up.

 

[Dan Yeats]

Stoof, your wasted in your current job, get Levy to employ you as the team motivational speaker.

I disagree. Stoof's easily the best pimp I've ever had.

 

[Misfit]

We're punching above our weight financially for which great credt goes to Levy et al. In terms of the talent at Harry's disposal, we should be a top 4 club. Our starting 11 and squad of 18 is plenty strong enough.

If we miss out on top 4 again this season, it'll have bugger all to do with finances of the club.

What it will mean is that we likely see the dismantling of two or three bricks of this team and that is where our financial clout, or lack thereof compared to others, will tell.

 

[michaelden]

I'm convinced Harry should've taken the England job or definitively said no. This wishy-washy approach has upset the momentum we had. So Harry out at the end of the season and someone new in.

Ps: any follow up on DL trying to secure Trixki Bergy-thingy ex-barca DoF

 

[Real_madyidd]

We're punching above our weight financially for which great credt goes to Levy et al. In terms of the talent at Harry's disposal, we should be a top 4 club. Our starting 11 and squad of 18 is plenty strong enough.

If we miss out on top 4 again this season, it'll have bugger all to do with finances of the club.

What it will mean is that we likely see the dismantling of two or three bricks of this team and that is where our financial clout, or lack thereof compared to others, will tell.

I agree 100% with you on this. Failure this season will be entirely down to Redknapp. Levy has given him all of the tools required to get the job done and yet we constantly hear that he is doing a great job and that we are over achieving.