Lloris

[kungfugrip]

Lloris on the bench makes Brad the best he can be = good for Tottenham.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

26 seconds in

They showed more replays on the ITV4 live coverage. He attempted to dive on the ball but missed it. Had some one else been supporting Klose we would have been in a world of trouble.

I'm not saying he's rubbish, I believe he is the future for us and that he will establish himself sooner rather than later.
I'm just not sure he was as good against Lazio as some people are saying is all.

 

[theShiznit]

The longer he's out of the team the worse for us.

It puts pressure on AVB and Lloris, all Brad's saves become spectacular (highlighted yesterday by Twatty Gale who on several occasions eulogised about "great saves" by Friedel only to then go on to say they were saves he should have made

And all the pressure exacerbated by the keeper not coming out (not an issue yesterday) goes unseen.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

He didn't attempt to dive on the ball, he was making himself big blocking the shot he thought Klose was going to have

The speed he came out at was very impressive and clearly put off the striker who was 80/20 favourite to get to the ball first

Top keeping

 

[scat1620]

As someone who thinks Lloris should already be playing ahead of Friedel, I'm not to encouraged by AVB's latest comments on the Lloris/Friedel situation:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19698398

Hugo Lloris: Goalkeeper has to wait for Tottenham debut

Tottenham manager Andre Villas-Boas has warned goalkeeper Hugo Lloris not to expect an instant call-up if first-choice Brad Friedel has a bad game.
France captain Lloris was signed from Lyon for £8m with the expectation he would be the club's first choice.
But the 25-year-old has played just once - in the Europa League draw with Lazio on Thursday.
"We have made Hugo aware that whenever Brad has a bad game we won't drop him," Villas-Boas said.
Friedel, 41, made a number of impressive saves in Tottenham's 2-1 win over QPR on Sunday and is likely to start at Manchester United next weekend.
That will prolong Lloris' spell out of the team, a situation that has been met with incredulity in France.
"These things have to be taken very carefully," Villas-Boas said.
"We don't doubt Hugo's dimension and talent but at the moment we are paying respect to a player who is performing very well.
"At the right time we will think about it and Hugo is an extremely good professional.
"He wants to come back into the team but he is competing for the jersey and he will get his chance very soon."

Starting to get a tiny bit concerned (not knee-jerk panicking, mind - just the initial kernel of a train of thought) that this has shades of when Rebrov joined us as a big-money star signing. IIRC, Hoddle tried to ease him into the team slowly when Rebrov was fit and ready to go from the off, and it meant that he never built up the early momentum that might have seen him become undroppable for us in the months and years to come. I know that the mis-handling of Rebrov was nearly all Graham's doing after Hoddle was sacked, but I think that that lack of early momentum when Rebrov joined made Graham's decision to shitcan him easier. Although the Lloris/Friedel thing a different situation with different players, and everything will likely be okay in the end, I'd hate to see Lloris go the same way as Rebrov and I hope that he gets the chance to show what he can do sooner rather than later.

 

[Leachie]

As someone who thinks Lloris should already be playing ahead of Friedel, I'm not to encouraged by AVB's latest comments on the Lloris/Friedel situation:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19698398


Starting to get a tiny bit concerned (not knee-jerk panicking, mind - just the initial kernel of a train of thought) that this has shades of when Rebrov joined us as a big-money star signing. IIRC, Hoddle tried to ease him into the team slowly when Rebrov was fit and ready to go from the off, and it meant that he never built up the early momentum that might have seen him become undroppable for us in the months and years to come. I know that the mis-handling of Rebrov was nearly all Graham's doing after Hoddle was sacked, but I think that that lack of early momentum when Rebrov joined made Graham's decision to shitcan him easier. Although the Lloris/Friedel thing a different situation with different players, and everything will likely be okay in the end, I'd hate to see Lloris go the same way as Rebrov and I hope that he gets the chance to show what he can do sooner rather than later.

Difference is that Rebrov wasn't very good! Lloris is.

 

[Super Tottenham]

I'm starting to think we may be holding off LLoris league debut until after Man United away which could be a baptism of fire with all eyes on him.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Clearly Lloris won't start a league game until Brad has a howler

The problem is Brad doesn't have howlers because he never commits, stays on his line and shot stops. He's also got decent hands so rarely drops anything

He played well Sunday and made some good saves. However Lloris is rated as one of the best in Europe, captains his country and is 16 years younger

He has to be the better, quicker more agile keeper and should therefore be our No1!!!!

 

[ealingspur]

26 seconds in

They showed more replays on the ITV4 live coverage. He attempted to dive on the ball but missed it. Had some one else been supporting Klose we would have been in a world of trouble.

I'm not saying he's rubbish, I believe he is the future for us and that he will establish himself sooner rather than later.
I'm just not sure he was as good against Lazio as some people are saying is all.

he didnt try to dive on the ball, he knew he wasnt getting there before klose, so he tried to close the angle and make himself as big as possible. You can tell this by the angle of his body - if he tried to dive on the ball, it would make sense that he would be perpendicular to the goal line, instead he was effectively parallel. The other option was to stay on your line and allow the striked to have a direct uncontested and unpressured shot.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

As someone who thinks Lloris should already be playing ahead of Friedel, I'm not to encouraged by AVB's latest comments on the Lloris/Friedel situation:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/19698398


Starting to get a tiny bit concerned (not knee-jerk panicking, mind - just the initial kernel of a train of thought) that this has shades of when Rebrov joined us as a big-money star signing. IIRC, Hoddle tried to ease him into the team slowly when Rebrov was fit and ready to go from the off, and it meant that he never built up the early momentum that might have seen him become undroppable for us in the months and years to come. I know that the mis-handling of Rebrov was nearly all Graham's doing after Hoddle was sacked, but I think that that lack of early momentum when Rebrov joined made Graham's decision to shitcan him easier. Although the Lloris/Friedel thing a different situation with different players, and everything will likely be okay in the end, I'd hate to see Lloris go the same way as Rebrov and I hope that he gets the chance to show what he can do sooner rather than later.

I'm a tad confused. George Graham was manager when we signed Rebrov and, IIRC, did play him quite a lot. And in fact, if my ever fading memory serves me correctly. Rebrov had his only spell of what could be described as "form" under Graham.
Hoddle came in and dumped him and never really used him other than as a sub.

 

[cozzo]

It wouldn't surprise me if its already been agreed by all parties (AVB, Friedel and Lloris) that Friedel will step down in a few games time for Lloris to take over. I would say another 3 games or so and the Lloris will take over with Freidel's blessing.

 

[Yid-ol]

It wouldn't surprise me if its already been agreed by all parties (AVB, Friedel and Lloris) that Friedel will step down in a few games time for Lloris to take over. I would say another 3 games or so and the Lloris will take over with Freidel's blessing.

I cant see this happening

If Friedel is doing what he needs to do why drop him?

What i can see is Friedel playing first team for league games this year (unless he makes mistakes and Lloris comes in) and then at the end of the season he may look to move on, maybe back to the states for a nice pay packet for a season or two.

 

[cozzo]

I cant see this happening

If Friedel is doing what he needs to do why drop him?

What i can see is Friedel playing first team for league games this year (unless he makes mistakes and Lloris comes in) and then at the end of the season he may look to move on, maybe back to the states for a nice pay packet for a season or two.

Lloris wont play the subs role for a whole season with a world cup approaching. Mistakes or No mistakes, It won't happen. He's not a rookie.

 

[Yid-ol]

Lloris wont play the subs role for a whole season with a world cup approaching. Mistakes or No mistakes, It won't happen. He's not a rookie.

World cup is still another season away after this one....

turning it round, Brad may have one last shot at a world cup before he is too old, he wont want to be letting someone take his spot never to be seen again for club or country.

I didnt call him a rookie, all i said was Brad is playing well and cant see him wanting to just hand the number 1 spot on, he will fight for it and Lloris has to fight for it and show he can be better than brad in the games he plays, which just now will be cup games.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Every one seems to be dismissing Brad but you have to wonder, had a non experienced keeper been between the sticks against QPR and Norwich would we have got 4 points from those games?

 

[scat1620]

I'm a tad confused. George Graham was manager when we signed Rebrov and, IIRC, did play him quite a lot. And in fact, if my ever fading memory serves me correctly. Rebrov had his only spell of what could be described as "form" under Graham.
Hoddle came in and dumped him and never really used him other than as a sub.

Whoops, my bad, got Hoddle and Graham the wrong way round! Memory-FAIL.

 

[Casparian]

Every one seems to be dismissing Brad but you have to wonder, had a non experienced keeper been between the sticks against QPR and Norwich would we have got 4 points from those games?

Just to clarify you are asking if a guy that is the captain of the French national team.3 times awarded goalkeeper of the year out of the last 4 season's in Ligue 1 numerous accolades as being one of the best goalkeepers in the world today.If he would be able to step up to the might of QPR and Norwich? righto.

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

World cup is still another season away after this one....

turning it round, Brad may have one last shot at a world cup before he is too old, he wont want to be letting someone take his spot never to be seen again for club or country.

I didnt call him a rookie, all i said was Brad is playing well and cant see him wanting to just hand the number 1 spot on, he will fight for it and Lloris has to fight for it and show he can be better than brad in the games he plays, which just now will be cup games.

Brad retired from USA 8 years ago...

 

[Yid-ol]

Brad retired from USA 8 years ago...

he did? shows you how much i know about the USA team! the rest of my post is still vaild cant see him wanting to go out with a wimper

 

[Super Tottenham]

How much did we pay for LLoris? The press keep running with £12m but I thought it was rising to 12m Euro's. I'm sure the press are trying to push the cost up to make it look like we are benching such an expensive keeper, the latest increase i saw some paper claim we paid £13m.