Morgan Schneiderlin Signs For United

[Mr Pink]

I agree it seems difficult for some to grasp because most teams that play with two CM's have one more defensive and one more attack minded player. The best example I can think of was Petit and Vieria. Both Tackled, both attacked but not at the same time. Takes discipline and understanding but it can work very well if the players have enough all round quality.

Totally agree, and I think its actually a lot more desirable to have two good all rounders in those positions. We're not a Chelsea who can have one of the best DM's in the world beside one of the best creative midfielders (playing deeper when deployed there) in Matic and Fabregas.

Two players who have enough intelligence and work ethic off the ball and can get there head up and a pick pass to. If they develop a good understanding between them, it could work beautifully.

Bentaleb and Schneiderlin has that feel to me about it.

 

[mark87]

You don't put up the defensive numbers that MS does without being a very competent DM. Bentaleb and MS would share roles, both capable of pressing, holding and being a deep lying playmaker. It would be a very strong and dynamic midfield. Bentaleb is very capable of this, especially with someone to share the load which sadly for Mason isn't really his game.

I'm absolutely not saying schneiderlin isn't good at the defensive side of it all, but wanyama is better defending than Bentaleb, it's one of the reason why saints defensive record was so good because they had two players in the middle who knew how to protect the back four. But yeah both schneiderlin and Bentaleb have a great work rate and both press well so but I just think Bentaleb will need to work on defending a bit more as it isn't as good as wanyama. But it will definitely be a great CM pairing.

 

[mark87]

Surprised JJ hasn't been in here yet to confirm or deny this 25 million pound bid.

Someone needs to get on twitter and ask him.

 

[mikeeegreen]

Someone needs to get on twitter and ask him.

Yeah, I would but I don't want to bombard him with questions. I've already asked this morning if Adebayor is staying after his recent Tweets. Praying that isn't true.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I'm absolutely not saying schneiderlin isn't good at the defensive side of it all, but wanyama is better defending than Bentaleb, it's one of the reason why saints defensive record was so good because they had two players in the middle who knew how to protect the back four. But yeah both schneiderlin and Bentaleb have a great work rate and both press well so but I just think Bentaleb will need to work on defending a bit more as it isn't as good as wanyama. But it will definitely be a great CM pairing.

I agree, Bentaleb is young and not very good with defensive positioning especially. This will come with time though and with a strong partner he will have more freedom to learn and develop this side of the game. I genuinely believe those two between them will give much more of a shield than we've seen last season, which bodes very well. Most opposition teams will look to sit back in many games anyway so having two complete midfielders (up until goalscoring) is perfect for that.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Yeah, I would but I don't want to bombard him with questions. I've already asked this morning if Adebayor is staying after his recent Tweets. Praying that isn't true.

That's an interesting one too. Obviously we should cut our losses but if he's 'playing for a contract' (last year?) again it might be worth trying to benefit from that. In form Adebayor and Kane could be brutal.

 

[mikeeegreen]

I agree, Bentaleb is young and not very good with defensive positioning especially. This will come with time though and with a strong partner he will have more freedom to learn and develop this side of the game. I genuinely believe those two between them will give much more of a shield than we've seen last season, which bodes very well. Most opposition teams will look to sit back in many games anyway so having two complete midfielders (up until goalscoring) is perfect for that.

Think this would free up Eriksen a bit as well

 

[SpartanSpur]

Think this would free up Eriksen a bit as well

At the very least should allow for more early passes to him in transition to work with, hopefully with an eye for a through ball to a pacey WF or Kane.

 

[mikeeegreen]

That's an interesting one too. Obviously we should cut our losses but if he's 'playing for a contract' (last year?) again it might be worth trying to benefit from that. In form Adebayor and Kane could be brutal.

Don't trust him, seriously. Just get rid. Absolute poison in the dressing room. Remember he questioned Poch last season along with Capoue and Kaboul. All need to go ASAP. By doing so this is further evidence that we are backing the manager. Even if we can't offload all 3 due to them being difficult. They at least need to be loaned out, just to keep them away from the squad.

 

[mark87]

I agree, Bentaleb is young and not very good with defensive positioning especially. This will come with time though and with a strong partner he will have more freedom to learn and develop this side of the game. I genuinely believe those two between them will give much more of a shield than we've seen last season, which bodes very well. Most opposition teams will look to sit back in many games anyway so having two complete midfielders (up until goalscoring) is perfect for that.

Oh I have no doubt that there will be much better protection for the back four with Morgan in the team, it will help them out no end and yes Bentaleb will definitely improve in all aspects of his game, he's only 20 and has demonstrated terrific ability and potential in the season just gone and I'm confident a partnership with schneiderlin will grow to be very effective. If we get schneiderlin of course.

 

[Topeka]

That's an interesting one too. Obviously we should cut our losses but if he's 'playing for a contract' (last year?) again it might be worth trying to benefit from that. In form Adebayor and Kane could be brutal.

Ade is a leach!

 

[mikeeegreen]

I'd love us to get Morgan but I still don't think we will. I think he will end up at Utd still. I hope we get Kramer if we don't get Schneiderlin.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Oh I have no doubt that there will be much better protection for the back four with Morgan in the team, it will help them out no end and yes Bentaleb will definitely improve in all aspects of his game, he's only 20 and has demonstrated terrific ability and potential in the season just gone and I'm confident a partnership with schneiderlin will grow to be very effective. If we get schneiderlin of course.

Yeah I need to stop talking about it now because it's still very unlikely IMHO.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Ade is a leach!

Of course he is, we absolutely should bin him at the earliest opportunity. Just an interesting scenario as we have found previously you can't force him out. Hopefully Sir Timbo of Sherwood will 'rescue' him...

 

[mikeeegreen]

Of course he is, we absolutely should bin him at the earliest opportunity. Just an interesting scenario as we have found previously you can't force him out. Hopefully Sir Timbo of Sherwood will 'rescue' him...

Doubt it, they can't afford his wages. Ade knows, along with a handful of players that this is the best he will get. Him and his agent are going to do whatever possible to cling on and force stay at the club. He doesn't care about playing football, maybe he did early on in his career but he certainly does not now. He will happily sit about doing nothing and picking up his wages. Him (along with Kaboul, Capoue etc) typifies everything that is wrong at Spurs for me. He is a real "Redknapp" player that does more harm than good. What I mean by that is just take a look at the rabble ol' Bacon face signed for QPR. It's come out in the media that they have had a real negative impact on the team morale/attitude wise. Adebayor easily fits in with that type of player. As a club that is looking to progress forward, investing in youth and "hungry" players who will buy into the managers philosophy, Adebayor is the complete opposite of this. We should look to get rid of him ASAP if we are serious about all of this. Just having at the club contradicts that entire motive for me.

Sorry for going off topic, I just feel very strongly about this. I can't tell you how annoyed I get whenever I'm at the Lane and hear his name read out over the PA for the matchday squad. He has no place here at Spurs.

 

[dondo]

They didn't say that though, they said they would allow him to go and began negotiations as did he, and then went back on their word and then and only then did they say he isn't for sale.
As for us taking their manager by the way, we didn't steal him away from them, they sacked their chief exec, the man who brought Poch in, and started selling all their players, Pochottino was on his way out Spurs or no Spurs.
I just want people to remember the facts properly.

We may have started neotiations and they did change their minds but the bottom line is he was not for sale at the point we were trying to buy him. If we got in early before they sold half their team we probably would have got him but you snooze you lose

 

[glospur]

If we get Schneiderlin (or Kramer or Imbula for that matter), it's seems to be consensus that he will take Mason's spot in the side, but could Mason play in the same side as those two but further forward behind the striker? He's a good presser and when I think back to that Rose goal in either the second last or last game of the season mason can definitely play that killer ball. I wonder if that will be an option.

 

[mark87]

If we get Schneiderlin (or Kramer or Imbula for that matter), it's seems to be consensus that he will take Mason's spot in the side, but could Mason play in the same side as those two but further forward behind the striker? He's a good presser and when I think back to that Rose goal in either the second last or last game of the season mason can definitely play that killer ball. I wonder if that will be an option.

Depends if we change formation to 433, if we did I wouldn't be too surprised to see a schneiderlin, Bentaleb, Mason midfield three, unless eriksen is pushed further down into the three.

 

[Spurs Lodge Kittens]

Surprised JJ hasn't been in here yet to confirm or deny this 25 million pound bid.

He's been saying all along it's complicated. But perhaps it's better that he stays away from commenting on this one - keep the suspense going

 

[MR.P]

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...D-for-Arsenal-despite-huge-cash-on-Spurs-move

Morgan Schneiderlin has SIGNED for Arsenal… despite huge cash on Spurs move

HUGE cash has been lumped on Morgan Schneiderlin quitting Southampton to join Tottenham.

It's forced bookies Betfair to slash the odds on Schneiderlin moving to White Hart Lane from 10/1 to 6/4.
That's despite claims from two separate sources that the Frenchman has already AGREED a move to Arsenal.
French newspaper L’Equipe reported earlier this year that the 25-year-old will leave St Mary’s at the end of the season having pushed for a move last summer.
That claim backs up those from The Secret Footballer, a former Premier League player who has written two books.
He tweeted "My understanding is that they [Arsenal] have an agreement already in place with Schneiderlin."
Betfair trader Michael Bowers said: "Rumours have been circulating linking the 25-year-old Frenchman to almost every big club in the Premier League and Arsenal have been leading the charge in the betting, with them accounting for 70 per cent of all of bets taken.
"But today has seen enormous support for their North London rivals and we’ve been forced to cut Spurs from 10/1 to 6/4 favourites.
"The biggest stumbling block for Spurs would be entering into a bidding war with a club like PSG at 6/1 or United who are 14/1, which might overinflate the price and force them to miss out on themidfielder.”

I don't believe Arsenal will be in the chase for him, and even if they were, its unlikely that Schneiderlin will want to go, he wont get much game time, plus I think the past connection that MoPo had with him is a huge benefit on our side, a great signing if we can pull this one off, a proven premier league player. Him and Kondogbia in the centre is a great look, whether it will happen or not is another story though.