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Mousa Dembele (from Rumour to DONE)

YiddoBirdy

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I'm glad we got a player which has proven himself in the EPL for a reasonable fee. Good replacement for Luka now lets secure Lloris and another striker. COYS
 

Gedson100

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Interesting where Dembele fits in. Looking at that footage from the Utd game he'd look a shoo-in for the Modric role in a 4-4-2...

I guess he'll ultimately be the left of the midfield 3. If Willian comes in, our side is gonna take a bit of shuffling.
 

Gedson100

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I'm glad we got a player which has proven himself in the EPL for a reasonable fee. Good replacement for Luka now lets secure Lloris and another striker. COYS

Agreed, it's the old Man. Utd way. Pay mid range money for players, well acclimatised to the league and who likely will kick on in a better team. It's a decent strategy.
 

YiddoBirdy

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Interesting where Dembele fits in. Looking at that footage from the Utd game he'd look a shoo-in for the Modric role in a 4-4-2...

I guess he'll ultimately be the left of the midfield 3. If Willian comes in, our side is gonna take a bit of shuffling.

I think Dembele will act as a deep lying playmaker similar to Modric.

Our midfield 3 will look like this
Sandro
Sig/VDV Dembele

If Willian also joins we will use him as a forward on either side of the front 3.
 

Schitzophonic

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It's a good job Fulham signed that second Moussa Dembele from PSG. Must soften the blow. And all the fans with Dembele shirts won't be quite so disappointed. We could have done the same with a 14 year old Luka Modric, I suppose. Even if we had to pay some confused Croatian parents off to change all his documents. Great marketing scheme by Fulham there. Innovative.
 

KevinW

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It's a good job Fulham signed that second Moussa Dembele from PSG. Must soften the blow. And all the fans with Dembele shirts won't be quite so disappointed. We could have done the same with a 14 year old Luka Modric, I suppose. Even if we had to pay some confused Croatian parents off to change all his documents. Great marketing scheme by Fulham there. Innovative.
Just hope we bought the right one :)
 

cracker man

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Both Allen and if the deal goes through Dembele were bought for 15M, so who do you guys think got the best deal? Personally I think they will both be good, but Dembele's has all the technical ability of Allen as well as a physical presence which obviously Allen lacks.
 

YiddoBirdy

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Both Allen and if the deal goes through Dembele were bought for 15M, so who do you guys think got the best deal? Personally I think they will both be good, but Dembele's has all the technical ability of Allen as well as a physical presence which obviously Allen lacks.

I think Allen has a better passing ability but like you said Dembele is more physical and he is also more of a versatile player so I personally think Dembele is the better buy.
 

tobi

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If Adebayor goes away in January and we don't sign another forward, then my dream of this guy becoming a complete forward may come true.
 

Snarfalicious

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I think Allen has a better passing ability but like you said Dembele is more physical and he is also more of a versatile player so I personally think Dembele is the better buy.

Pretty spot on. I think Dembele's got a bit more athleticism as well.

Dembele also has 4* skill moves in FIFA, Allen only has 2*. Much more fun to play with. Thanks DL!
 

AUSpur

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For those that want a little more info/stats on how Dembele plays this is an interesting article from Opta:

http://www.eplindex.com/17781/cottagers-heartbeat-dembl-diarra-stats-analysis.html

Love this:

"With Murphy having already gone, and Dempsey looking likely to follow, it will be of the utmost importance that Martin Jol retain the services of the Belgian playmaker. Although he is not the only creative force in the side – his play is instrumental in creating chances and successfully retaining possession in the attack."
 

ItsBoris

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I know I've thrown this around at times, but does anyone else believe in the idea that when you put a player with some really nice skills, and surround him by better talent than his previous team, that it can make a huge difference not only in the statistics that said player can put together but also make a difference in the growth of a player?

I know it's an area of argument for some which is hard to quantify. But I tend to think that surrounding yourself with better players, when you've already played in that league and established yourself despite having what most would consider marginal talent around you, you're in line for some progression in terms of your skill set and more directly - your stats.

Just something to think of when you see Dembele as not having much of an end-product on the stat sheet. Granted, he did have Clint Dempsey who was one of the better goal scorers in the PL last year. Just something I was trying to work through when thinking about the future of Dembele.

Yes, it's one of many reasons why players at Barca look so good imo. When Iniesta/Xavi/etc makes a ridiculous pass, more emphasis is placed on the passer instead of the one who made the movement. But if Iniesta played at Fulham for instance, there would be no Messi/Sanchez/Villa/Pedro making the runs which create the opportunity to pass. Of course the eye of the needle pass is the most difficult part but the smart movement of top class players makes it possible in the first place.

Very excited - we already know we are getting one of the best dribbers in the world, and probably the best in the league, we'll see what other strengths are revealed by playing with better players.
 
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